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[EazyB]

I wasn't really arguing about the vast options in Halo 3, just the redundancy. With the multiple anti-vehicle weapons in Halo 3, is it really necessary to have laser, rockets, and missle pod? I think that the Rocket from Halo 2 would just replace these 3 weapons with ease.
I mean, look at Valhalla. At the beginning of the match, you fight over the laser spawn because it rapes on that map. The missle pod isn't that important and people don't rush to pick it up. The Rocket from Halo 2 could just replace the laser and the missle pod. I mean, just put a H2 rocket up there and it will be the same thing. It just seems like Bungie made a bunch of weapons just to make them.

They should make a BR with H2 accuracy that alt fires to a lock on missile with a secondary alt grenade launchers and a tertiary secondary alt shotgun fire...


I hope you get my point. Halo's always been about the rock-paper-scissors gameplay. Wield a weapon that'll give you an advantage in certain situations and lure your opponents into those situations. If you pick up the missile pod you have to sacrifice some mobility and are more vulnerable to players on foot. You make those sacrifices so that you have an advantage against vehicles. Players have to make these sorts of calculations which adds to the complexity, variety, and overall balance of the game.

So, yeah, this is total bullshit. I pretty much just wanted to take Halo 3 out of my system at that point and not play it till Bungie change their playlists to allow casual players of the game to enjoy more variety of playlists.

You'll be happy to know that in June you will not only have to buy the Legendary maps but also the Mythic maps to get access to most of the playlists.

I mentioned it early but I'm still willing to bet the Halo 3 population takes a noticeable hit once June hits.

 

[Ramirez]

I'm sure this post will be considered "old news, lol" and lame, but whatever. it bugged the hell out of me and dropped my opinion of Bungie as low as it could go.


So I haven't played Halo 3 in over a month since the dude I normally play with has been out of commission for a while.

We log in, form our party and find that nearly every single playlist has been modified to force the need for (still not free) Legendary DLC. Including basic stuff like Team Slayer and Social Team Slayer.

the only playlist we could play was Squad Battle (not even Big team social).

What the Fuck???

So, yeah, this is total bullshit. I pretty much just wanted to take Halo 3 out of my system at that point and not play it till Bungie change their playlists to allow casual players of the game to enjoy more variety of playlists.

Why bother catering to casual players, casual players is not what makes them money.

On the same foot though, I doubt Bungie has much say in what is required and what isn't, I'd say MS tells them.

 

[Merguson]

Why bother catering to casual players, casual players is not what makes them money.

Nintendo says

"lol wat"

Spoiler

couldn't resist

 

[LCfiner]

You'll be happy to know that in June you will not only have to buy the Legendary maps but also the Mythic maps to get access to most of the playlists.

I mentioned it early but I'm still willing to bet the Halo 3 population takes a noticeable hit once June hits.

AWESOME! Way to be, Bungie. Way to be. :lol

I'm sure Bungie won't miss my shitty playing on their servers but I can pretty much guarantee that I won't be playing anymore if that's the case.

It's just a slap in the face considering that they already have social playlists setup for casual players. keep those DLC free, you twits!

 

[KevinRo]

On the same foot though, I doubt Bungie has much say in what is required and what isn't, I'd say MS tells them.

Joke post?

Anyways, I told all you idiots that people were going to get mad about the DLC requirements.I also remember saying to all of you that if you give Bungie an inch they want a mile. Look at what they have done now, they are requiring DLC in more than 50% of the playlists. BTW, the only people on my friends list that have ALL the DLC are from GAF.

 

[Sai-kun]

You'll be happy to know that in June you will not only have to buy the Legendary maps but also the Mythic maps to get access to most of the playlists.

thank god.

 

[EazyB]

Joke post?

Anyways, I told all you idiots that people were going to get mad about the DLC requirements.I also remember saying to all of you that if you give Bungie an inch they want a mile. Look at what they have done now, they are requiring DLC in more than 50% of the playlists. BTW, the only people on my friends list that have ALL the DLC are from GAF.

I wouldn't say it takes a big leap in faith to say MS wants to sell as much DLC as they can before ODST comes out. One ODST comes out they won't be able to sell the DLC because everyone that still plays Halo (even casually) will have every single piece of DLC because it comes with ODST.

I'm not saying that that's the case, but given the circumstance, you'd have to have a lot of unwarranted faith in MS to rule it out. If I were in control of the playlists and had no pressure from anyone, I'd beef up the DLC playlist (I've said it a million times, having only one 4v4 playlists for DLC is pathetic when Heroic and Legenday had better implementation) while keeping more core playlists free.

Whatever the case, this fall everyone will have the DLC and the bitching can subside. In the meantime, take a break from Halo 3 and play Halo 2 because it's such a happenin videogame.

 

[Ramirez]

Joke post?

Anyways, I told all you idiots that people were going to get mad about the DLC requirements.I also remember saying to all of you that if you give Bungie an inch they want a mile. Look at what they have done now, they are requiring DLC in more than 50% of the playlists. BTW, the only people on my friends list that have ALL the DLC are from GAF.

Not at all, look at Epic and GoW, they were very outspoken about how their DLC would have been free for GoW, but MS wouldn't allow it. Is it really that much of a stretch that MS tells them what lists need DLC to play in?

 

[Captain Blood]

Count me in the camp of people who are very happy with how the mythic maps are required for matchmaking. I just want to be in a playlist where I can play Assembly and The Pit without having to change.

 

[Striker]

They're "added", but in June "required".

I'd be set with added as long as the population of the playlist itself increases. Otherwise, it would be pointless. I can see where LCfiner comes, though. He isn't a Halo 3 player from day to day, like myself, or Eazy, or Ghaleon. Social games without requirements would be a lot more lenient for those folks.

 

[Narpas Sword0]

I'm sure this post will be considered "old news, lol" and lame, but whatever. it bugged the hell out of me and dropped my opinion of Bungie as low as it could go.


So I haven't played Halo 3 in over a month since the dude I normally play with has been out of commission for a while.

We log in, form our party and find that nearly every single playlist has been modified to force the need for (still not free) Legendary DLC. Including basic stuff like Team Slayer and Social Team Slayer.

the only playlist we could play was Squad Battle (not even Big team social).

What the Fuck???

So, yeah, this is total bullshit. I pretty much just wanted to take Halo 3 out of my system at that point and not play it till Bungie change their playlists to allow casual players of the game to enjoy more variety of playlists.

Uh false

There are plenty of options for someone who won't buy maps. Lone Wolves, Social Slayer, Social Skirmish, Squad Battle, MLG. So you've got your solo ranked, you've got your slayer and your objective, team unranked, team ranked, and 6v6 covered. The only thing you're losing out on is 8v8 play, and why would you want to do that without Avalanche?

As far as I'm concerned if you don't want to invest in all of the maps then you have no business playing in ranked, be happy with social. And yet you get FFA and squad battle and MLG, what is the problem?

 

[LCfiner]

Uh false

There are plenty of options for someone who won't buy maps. Lone Wolves, Social Slayer, Social Skirmish, Squad Battle, MLG. So you've got your solo ranked, you've got your slayer and your objective, team unranked, team ranked, and 6v6 covered. The only thing you're losing out on is 8v8 play, and why would you want to do that without Avalanche?

As far as I'm concerned if you don't want to invest in all of the maps then you have no business playing in ranked, be happy with social. And yet you get FFA and squad battle and MLG, what is the problem?

MLG is not an option. that's hardcore players and way out of my league. I'd be shitting up games so no dice. Lone Wolves and Skirmish are not playlists we like.

I saw that Social Team Slayer required Legendary DLC. so it's not false.

There was no way for my friend and I to play simple 4 v 4 team slayer without spending around 8 bucks CDN. that's complete bullshit and completely indefensible.

Oh, and let's not even get started if we were on the same room, which used to happen all the time. since the social big team battle requires the legendary DLC, we'd be forced to play lone wolves or other non-team based modes.

And, if that were to happen, we'd just eject the disc and say Fuck it, not worth putting up with bullshit.

 

[Blueblur1]

Maybe I've forgotten but is there any particular reason why Social Slayer and Social Skirmish were changed to 5v5 playlists? I was playing with some cousins tonight and we would have preferred one less random teammate (for obvious suckage reasons).

 

[vhfive]

Maybe I've forgotten but is there any particular reason why Social Slayer and Social Skirmish were changed to 5v5 playlists? I was playing with some cousins tonight and we would have preferred one less random teammate (for obvious suckage reasons).

i was just wondering the same thing.
halo works best 4v4 imo. i dont know why social slayer, social skirmish and social dlc are all 5v5. the only non ranked 4v4 is mythic and for some reason i only run into people 45 and up in that playlist, not fun when i just want to relax at the end of a night

 

[Trasher]

Maybe I've forgotten but is there any particular reason why Social Slayer and Social Skirmish were changed to 5v5 playlists? I was playing with some cousins tonight and we would have preferred one less random teammate (for obvious suckage reasons).

I had been wondering the same thing. 4v4 was perfect. Why fix something that isn't broken?

 

[mood]

I had been wondering the same thing. 4v4 was perfect. Why fix something that isn't broken?

Because fixing the broken stuff is out of the question.

 

[Tashi]

Count me in the camp of people who are very happy with how the mythic maps are required for matchmaking. I just want to be in a playlist where I can play Assembly and The Pit without having to change.

Agreed 100%. I was playing SWAT and Orbital came up. That's what I want.

 

[ahoyhoy]

Count me in the camp of people who are very happy with how the mythic maps are required for matchmaking. I just want to be in a playlist where I can play Assembly and The Pit without having to change.

Well then they should have two separate Team Slayer playlists: one for those who have Mythic and one for those who do not. I don't see how that could be construed as a problem at all. It's a simple case of greed on Bungie/Microsofts part. That's it and that's all

Spoiler

If your wondering, I bought the Mythic pack on the first week, but a lot of my friends haven't yet

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Well then they should have two separate Team Slayer playlists: one for those who have Mythic and one for those who do not. I don't see how that could be construed as a problem at all. It's a simple case of greed on Bungie/Microsofts part. That's it and that's all

Spoiler

If your wondering, I bought the Mythic pack on the first week, but a lot of my friends haven't yet

You shouldn't say such things. The almighty Shishka will arise from his golden bathtub full of money like a phoenix from the ashes to give you a stern talking-to about Internet soapboxes. Beware.

 

[Metroidvania]

Well then they should have two separate Team Slayer playlists: one for those who have Mythic and one for those who do not. I don't see how that could be construed as a problem at all. It's a simple case of greed on Bungie/Microsofts part. That's it and that's all

I can see your point tho, but if Bungie doesn't put it into ranked, what's the point of buying them in the first place? Would you rather have no new maps, functionality, Sandbox variants, etc?

And on another note, where do you start drawing the line? Making the same Team Slayer playlist for Heroic (which, hypothetically, also includes no DLC, since it's free), Legendary, and Mythic makes 4 playlists alone for one single gametype, that's just going on redundant, and splits the player community into fragmented chunks.

 

[vhfive]

Well then they should have two separate Team Slayer playlists: one for those who have Mythic and one for those who do not. I don't see how that could be construed as a problem at all. It's a simple case of greed on Bungie/Microsofts part. That's it and that's all

Spoiler

If your wondering, I bought the Mythic pack on the first week, but a lot of my friends haven't yet

problem
more playlists -> less people in each playlist -> longer it takes to find a game/match you with people your skill level

 

[ahoyhoy]

I can see your point tho, but if Bungie doesn't put it into ranked, what's the point of buying them in the first place? Would you rather have no new maps, functionality, Sandbox variants, etc?

And on another note, where do you start drawing the line? Making the same Team Slayer playlist for Heroic (which, hypothetically, also includes no DLC, since it's free), Legendary, and Mythic makes 4 playlists alone for one single gametype, that's just going on redundant, and splits the player community into fragmented chunks.

Bungie is already splitting the community up into chunks, except now instead of having two different groups of players, there's the group that is willing to pay for Mythic and those who aren't and quit because they are limited to one or two playlists.

Also, my idea was simply to have two of each playlist type, for Ranked and Social, which just hinges on whether or not you have Mythic. Of course, this means that, yes, Legendary should be made free or at least should be bundled with Mythic. If they make it free, Heroic and Legendary will be required for all playlists save Social Slayer (for non-hard drive owners), or if they decide to bundle it with Mythic, only Heroic will be required. I don't see how they felt like they got screwed so much using the Halo 2 model of releasing the previous map pack for free once a new one comes out that they had to go ahead and abandon that system.

 

[LCfiner]

what would be the big deal if ranked required a couple DLC packs and social required none.

and there could be one social DLC only playlist for those who want to play the new maps but have more than one person playing on a console.

no further fragmentation than what they already have. done.

 

[vhfive]

what would be the big deal if ranked required a couple DLC packs and social required none.

and there could be one social DLC only playlist for those who want to play the new maps but have more than one person playing on a console.

no further fragmentation than what they already have. done.

it would be a big deal for me.

i dont really enjoy going into ranked as much anymore but i still want to play the maps i payed for.

also same amount of people on avalanche and assembly. lol

 

[EazyB]

Bungie is already splitting the community up into chunks, except now instead of having two different groups of players, there's the group that is willing to pay for Mythic and those who aren't and quit because they are limited to one or two playlists.

Also, my idea was simply to have two of each playlist type, for Ranked and Social, which just hinges on whether or not you have Mythic. Of course, this means that, yes, Legendary should be made free or at least should be bundled with Mythic. If they make it free, Heroic and Legendary will be required for all playlists save Social Slayer (for non-hard drive owners), or if they decide to bundle it with Mythic, only Heroic will be required. I don't see how they felt like they got screwed so much using the Halo 2 model of releasing the previous map pack for free once a new one comes out that they had to go ahead and abandon that system.

The pricing is up to MS. The playlist integration on the other hand is less clear.

I said it on the last page but I think it's worth repeating. Once ODST comes out DLC purchasing will hit an extreme low since every map ships with ODST. MS may want one last big sales push so they're putting pressure on Bungie to require the DLC more. Once the June update hits there'll only be two or three months until ODST, after that a good majority of everyone that still plays Halo 3 online will have all the maps through one mean or another and I wouldn't be surprised if MS made the maps free after making sure everyone picks up ODST.

 

[LCfiner]

it would be a big deal for me.

i dont really enjoy going into ranked as much anymore but i still want to play the maps i payed for.

also same amount of people on avalanche and assembly. lol

that's why I suggested the DLC-only playlist within social so you could do exactly that.

see, I've thought of everything

 

[Slightly Live]

The pricing is up to MS. The playlist integration on the other hand is less clear.

I said it on the last page but I think it's worth repeating. Once ODST comes out LDC purchasing will hit an extreme low since every map ships with ODST. MS may want one last big sales push so they're putting pressure on Bungie to require the DLC more. Once the June update hits there'll only be two or three months until ODST, after that a good majority of everyone that still plays Halo 3 online will have all the maps through one mean or another and I wouldn't be surprised if MS made the maps free after making sure everyone picks up ODST.

I'd rank this statement up there along with Voc's hunches. Not 100% truth, but best to believe it until something else comes up.

 

[EazyB]

I'd rank this statement up there along with Voc's hunches. Not 100% truth, but best to believe it until something else comes up.

Maybe if I was balder

it would be a big deal for me.

i dont really enjoy going into ranked as much anymore but i still want to play the maps i payed for.

also same amount of people on avalanche and assembly. lol

Instead of a single 4v4 DLC playlist there should have been a 6v6 (or 8v8) and a 4v4 one (if this rings any bells it's because a similar thing was done with Legendary). 6v6 on Sandbox (default, wastelands, vindictive, utah mambo, and punishment), Avalanche, and Valhalla choppers. 4v4 on sandbox (default, tundra, and other appropriate variants), Blackout, Ghost Town, and Assembly.

This is how the DLC implimentation would've looked it were as good as Legendary's playlists. It not only would've worked, but been a kickass playlist.

 

[vhfive]

that's why I suggested the DLC-only playlist within social so you could do exactly that.

see, I've thought of everything

that would mean assembly and avalanche would be in the same playlist

it would be a big deal for me.

i dont really enjoy going into ranked as much anymore but i still want to play the maps i payed for.

also same amount of people on avalanche and assembly. lol

also i want more than one playlist i would settle for the old dlc slayer and dlc objective playlists

 

[Nutter]

You guys do realise both DLC owners and non DLC owners can play Team Slayer(for now lol). That IS like having 2 playlists in 1. With that said. I welcome the change to having all DLC a requirement for Ranked. Social Should be Added but not required, so go have your halo fun in social.

 

[NOKYARD]

Man, Annual is always a blast.

of all the thousands of pics entered, i wonder how many were taken in this location?

most people don't know that you could hang out on top of this structure all day without fear of it falling - we had to wait there while a player ate dinner



and an update: the Grifball court inside the ... ahem ... Grifball court is nearing completion - this is an outside-of-the-map pic of the Home Court version



after this is complete i will have one more Grifball related map to complete before i can finally get more involved with Atlas and start to work on my own competitive maps - first up, a re-build of a Halo 2 Campaign location and all i can say at this point is that it will be from an Arbiter Level, the Sandbox aesthetics will fit in quite well, and (if the budget allows) there will be Scorpions and Wraiths available but very few players will be tempted to use them

 

[Domino Theory]

The pricing is up to MS. The playlist integration on the other hand is less clear.

I said it on the last page but I think it's worth repeating. Once ODST comes out DLC purchasing will hit an extreme low since every map ships with ODST. MS may want one last big sales push so they're putting pressure on Bungie to require the DLC more. Once the June update hits there'll only be two or three months until ODST, after that a good majority of everyone that still plays Halo 3 online will have all the maps through one mean or another and I wouldn't be surprised if MS made the maps free after making sure everyone picks up ODST.

LOL dude when all of that is said and done, we're moving on to Halo 4 where this cycle will start all over again. And again.

And again.

and again.

 

[Narpas Sword0]

MLG is not an option. that's hardcore players and way out of my league. I'd be shitting up games so no dice. Lone Wolves and Skirmish are not playlists we like.

I saw that Social Team Slayer required Legendary DLC. so it's not false.

There was no way for my friend and I to play simple 4 v 4 team slayer without spending around 8 bucks CDN. that's complete bullshit and completely indefensible.

Oh, and let's not even get started if we were on the same room, which used to happen all the time. since the social big team battle requires the legendary DLC, we'd be forced to play lone wolves or other non-team based modes.

And, if that were to happen, we'd just eject the disc and say Fuck it, not worth putting up with bullshit.

Social Slayer doesn't even require Heroic dude. You must have been in Social Team DLC. You are wrong.

You can do 4v4 Slayer in MLG or 5v5 Slayer on similar sized maps in Social Slayer.

If you're playing splitscreen then you have Social Slayer and Social Skirmish. And you obviously would not be playing Lone Wolves. Have you even actually looked at the playlists?


Someone without DLC can get into FFA, 4v4, 5v5, and 6v6 matches, spread across ranked and unranked. Yes, your choices are more limited, but the actual gameplay really isn't. The only actual loss as far as gameplay, is Big Team.

 

[EazyB]

LOL dude when all of that is said and done, we're moving on to Halo 4 where this cycle will start all over again. And again.

And again.

and again.

But when fans of good games skip MS's Halo 4 and move on to Bungie new IP where they have more say in DLC and content integration all will be well.

 

[LCfiner]

Social Slayer doesn't even require Heroic dude. You must have been in Social Team DLC. You are wrong.

You can do 4v4 Slayer in MLG or 5v5 Slayer on similar sized maps in Social Slayer.

If you're playing splitscreen then you have Social Slayer and Social Skirmish. And you obviously would not be playing Lone Wolves. Have you even actually looked at the playlists?


Someone without DLC can get into FFA, 4v4, 5v5, and 6v6 matches, spread across ranked and unranked. Yes, your choices are more limited, but the actual gameplay really isn't. The only actual loss as far as gameplay, is Big Team.

once again, why would I go into the MLG playlists when they are advertised as being hardcore and for high skill level players? i'm trying to play halo to have fun not get beat down by players way above my skill level.

as for lone wolves, i know we would not be playing split screen. my point was that we could not even play social big team in split screen IF we were in the same room. we used to always play that.

and my friend and I don't like the free for all games. all we wanted was simple 4v4 (apparently now 5v5) team slayer. either ranked or unranked.

we could do that before. now there is an obvious pay wall and WE CAN'T.

we bought this game for mainly for online team slayer multiplayer and now we can't play what we paid for as the playlists have been altered to block us out.

the more i think about, the more pissed I get, actually.

 

[Blueblur1]

In regards to the 5v5 Social Slayer and Skirmish hoppers, the only reason I can think of as as to why the hoppers were bumped up from 4v4 to 5v5 would be the inclusion of Rat's Nest in S. Slayer and filling out the teams a bit more for Valhalla matches (by the way, I think Valhalla appears much too often in both hoppers).

 

[xxjuicesxx]

In regards to the 5v5 Social Slayer and Skirmish hoppers, the only reason I can think of as as to why the hoppers were bumped up from 4v4 to 5v5 would be the inclusion of Rat's Nest in S. Slayer and filling out the teams a bit more for Valhalla matches (by the way, I think Valhalla appears much too often in both hoppers).

It had to do with the push to talk a short bit before it was moved up to whatever its at now. I think...? I think it was 5v5 moved to 4v4 then put back at 5v5? Doesn't make much sense, but then again... SHISHKA.

 

[The Librarian]

LOL dude when all of that is said and done, we're moving on to Halo 4 where this cycle will start all over again. And again.

And again.

and again.

All of this has happened before and all of it will happen again.

 

[Blueblur1]

I would really like to know why all the Social Slayer and Skirmish changes.

 

[GM Bullfrog]

All of this has happened before and all of it will happen again.

(neutral) Dax01
Pitching a Trek series about Odo helping Cardassians find the things and people they lost in the Dominion War.
(Today, 01:38 PM)


:lol

 

[Domino Theory]

I would really like to know why all the Social Slayer and Skirmish changes.

There are no Skirmish changes. It's been 5v5 since 9/25/2007. Social Slayer was moved up to 5v5 because of the push-to-talk restriction being raised.

 

[Striker]

Isn't Social Skirmish mostly VIP and Territories? Should be focused heavily on CTF/Bomb with small doses of KotH and Oddball. But no...

 

[GhaleonEB]

Isn't Social Skirmish mostly VIP and Territories? Should be focused heavily on CTF/Bomb with small doses of KotH and Oddball. But no...

One Flag CTF (15.3%)
Multi-Flag CTF (18.7%)
One Bomb Assault (12.4%)
Neutral Bomb Assault (14.4%)
VIP (2.9%, Skipped after veto)
1 Sided VIP (1.4%, Skipped after veto)
Territories (19.1%)
Land Grab (15.8%)

No KoTH or Oddball, but VIP is only 4.3% of the playlist and skips after veto. Though Territories and Land Grab are 1/3 of the list.

 

[Domino Theory]

One Flag CTF (15.3%)
Multi-Flag CTF (18.7%)
One Bomb Assault (12.4%)
Neutral Bomb Assault (14.4%)
VIP (2.9%, Skipped after veto)
1 Sided VIP (1.4%, Skipped after veto)
Territories (19.1%)
Land Grab (15.8%)

No KoTH or Oddball, but VIP is only 4.3% of the playlist and skips after veto. Though Territories and Land Grab are 1/3 of the list.

It should say:

One Flag BRs (25%)
One Flag (15%)
Multi Flag (25%)
Multi Flag BRs (35%)

and be called Social Flag. Don't know why it hasn't been done yet. Make Team Objective the only place anyone can have Flag, Bomb, KotH and Oddball in one playlist; it could increase its population if it differentiates from its social counter part [in a good way; not VIP and Land Grab garbage way].

 

[GhaleonEB]

It should say:

One Flag BRs (15%)
One Flag (25%)
Multi Flag (25%)
Multi Flag BRs (35%)

and be called Social Flag. Don't know why it hasn't been done yet.

Because variety is gud. Though I'm all for Territories getting the VIP treatment, if you know what I mean. Side note: Neutral Assault might just be my favorite game type. It doesn't get vetoed often in BTB, thank god, but I'd like to see it more often.

Read edit.

No.

 

[Domino Theory]

Read edit.

No.

LOL.

 

[EazyB]

and an update: the Grifball court inside the ... ahem ... Grifball court is nearing completion - this is an outside-of-the-map pic of the Home Court version

Always impressed/scared of how much effort you put into these courts. You didn't even use any of the crypts walls and even the floor. Why didn't you use the crypt floor. The heartache involved with creating a perfectly flat floor seems like something I'd try to avoid at all costs.


So you've made a sky bubble, floor, and crypt variant correct? Where on earth are you planning to build the last? Orbital hallway? Anyways, excited to see what your abnormal attention for detail results in when you make a normal map.

No KoTH or Oddball, but VIP is only 4.3% of the playlist and skips after veto. Though Territories and Land Grab are 1/3 of the list.

That 16% Land Grab stinks up should be replaced by KotH and Oddball.

 

[KevinRo]

The pricing is up to MS. The playlist integration on the other hand is less clear.

I said it on the last page but I think it's worth repeating. Once ODST comes out DLC purchasing will hit an extreme low since every map ships with ODST. MS may want one last big sales push so they're putting pressure on Bungie to require the DLC more. Once the June update hits there'll only be two or three months until ODST, after that a good majority of everyone that still plays Halo 3 online will have all the maps through one mean or another and I wouldn't be surprised if MS made the maps free after making sure everyone picks up ODST.

No, this post is just stupid. If you say my thoughts about Bungie giving us the maps for free is stupid then this is just as stupid. Stupid. M$ isn't pressuring Bungie to put this into Matchmaking, Bungie is doing this for their own reasons. Stop using M$ as a cop-out it's old. Just ask Valve.

 

[Striker]

One Flag CTF (15.3%)
Multi-Flag CTF (18.7%)
One Bomb Assault (12.4%)
Neutral Bomb Assault (14.4%)
VIP (2.9%, Skipped after veto)
1 Sided VIP (1.4%, Skipped after veto)
Territories (19.1%)
Land Grab (15.8%)

No KoTH or Oddball, but VIP is only 4.3% of the playlist and skips after veto. Though Territories and Land Grab are 1/3 of the list.

I have not played Social Skirmish in a while, but having Land Grab/Territories that high is pretty awful. They shouldn't be that high condering how often they seem to show up. VIP total should be 1% combined, not mixed. No KotH or Oddball, though, is rather odd. Those are more popular and more well-liked variants than VIP and Territories.

 

[Willeth]

Is there anything other than filing a complaint that might speed up the XBL Gamertag ban process? These guys are most likely second-accounters, but god damn.

These are sexual in nature.
Bnet: http://tinyurl.com/o2qyjx XBL: http://tinyurl.com/p3q8rf
Bnet: http://tinyurl.com/ofpjsp XBL: http://tinyurl.com/q4gmkg
Bnet: http://tinyurl.com/pdbwg7 XBL: http://tinyurl.com/qguz2c

This one's racist.
Bnet: http://tinyurl.com/opcu67 XBL: http://tinyurl.com/qhuca9