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Dani said:
My =\ was surrounding the specifics from the rumour article, which isn't surprising considering it is reportedly from a customer survey.

Better connectivity?
I thought I was connected the best I could be as it is?
Online Storage? We haven't needed it yet. Unless we get something we need to store...
New matchmaking options? Doubting this would be compatible with any older games with matchmaking, then again I couldn't even guess how this stuff would work.
Invitation to Silver Members? What does this even mean? Let them come online in certain games? Get "Gold" status for a set amount of time, just what?

It's just a bit odd at this moment. If E3 comes, this is real, and Microsoft delivers all this? I'll be all over it. I'm just thinking, even if it is real, it won't have any impact on older titles, such as our beloved Halo 3 here. I want to be wrong.

For better connectivity, P2P is not "the best you could be as it is". For online storage, peole whose 20GB HDDs are running low on the HDD space and Arcade users who have Xbox Live using the 512MB storage, but can't download anything else say "Hi". For new matchmaking options, I assume that'd be a change in the online infrastructure for games that don't have Matchmaking, or some type of built-in tech that would automatically give VIP members a matchmaking-esque online experience for ANY game. And for invitation to Silver members, I said "lolwat" as well. :P

We'll see come E3 or later. But Microsoft makes it a habit to show off a new Xbox LIVE feature/change to the service at every E3. This year will be no exception. ;)
 
GhaleonEB said:
Also, my throat hurts so fucking much.

dude mine too. :| my mom came back from mexico last thursday and I kinda got sick saturday night/sunday and yesterday and today i've had a sore throat. really weird.

:| worry +10
 
Sai-kun said:
dude mine too. :| my mom came back from mexico last thursday and I kinda got sick saturday night/sunday and yesterday and today i've had a sore throat. really weird.

:| worry +10
Fuck.

Go get yourself checked out.
 
Domino Theory said:
We'll see come E3 or later. But Microsoft makes it a habit to show off a new Xbox LIVE feature/change to the service at every E3. This year will be no exception. ;)

I'm pretty sure you are correct, we'll see something. Give me some UK Netflix to go along with any sort of "VIP" service and that's me happy.

Right, about Ringworld 3...
 
good news map is fixable + $10 which will be placed for more rocks in the plains
bad news i forgot to save when i went to dinner and have to redo about 30 min of work :/
i'm sick of forging right now so i'll probably finish tomorrow
 
EazyB said:
Banning a user from Atlas because their map can be exploited in this way seems unfair.
Just wanted to quote this. That is ridiculous if you are banning people for that. At least give them a warning or something. I know Shishka is only one person, but if you are gonna do something like this you shouldn't do it half-assed.

Btw, keep the swine flu shit out of this thread. I don't want to catch it in here!
 
Dax01 said:
Have you been to a doctor since you started feeling sick?
Yes. Story time:

About two weeks ago I start to get a really sore throat. Not a huge deal; I've got kids, all kinds of germs get brought home from school and go through the house. But by morning, it's raw, oozing and I've got a fever of 102. We bring the fever and pain down with over the counter stuff, where it stays for about 36 hours. By mid week, I'm sleeping 4 hours a night max due to the pain. And I'm starting to get this horrid build up in the far back of my sinuses. Warning: gross bit ahead.

I manage to cough up the largest, blackest thing I've ever coughed up that night. About half the size of a golf ball, with the consistency of a gummy bear - almost SOLID. And it's completely, solid jet black. I do this twice over the next few hours.

Gross part over. That evening my wife takes me to urgent care, since there's not regular doctor office or hospital in this podunk town. I nearly pass out waiting there, with a high fever. They finally get me in and do a strep test - negative. But they put me on antibiotics anyway, since I've clearly got some kind of throat infection.

Five days later, it's worse and I go to my regular doctor. They don't know what it is - some kind of localize infection in the tissue. They would put me on antibiotics, but I'm already on them. So they give codeine to dope me up so I can actually get some sleep and hopefully get ahead of it. On day 10 of the antibiotics - the last day of it - I'm feeling better.

Then one daughter gets pink eye, gives it to the to other one, who wakes up the next morning with both pink eye AND the flu (fever, chills, chest congestion, etc.) She gives it to the rest of us, which brings the story up to last Friday.

In all I was out of work for eight days. Today is only my second day back.

I thought I was over this stuff. But last night my throat started hurting again. And right now it's raw, getting congested and I've lost about 80% of my ability to speak again. So I think the infection was pushed down, but not eliminated. It's back, baby.

Fuck.

Anyhoo. I'll finish up the spawns on my new map tonight and make any final geometry adjustments. Pretty happy with it - running around on it feels just right.
 
GhaleonEB said:
I manage to cough up the largest, blackest thing I've ever coughed up that night. About half the size of a golf ball, with the consistency of a gummy bear - almost SOLID. And it's completely, solid jet black. I do this twice over the next few hours.

uhhhh yeah my throat's just kinda scratchy. :|

Sucks, dood. :( I hope you all get better fast!!
 
Trasher said:
Just wanted to quote this. That is ridiculous if you are banning people for that. At least give them a warning or something. I know Shishka is only one person, but if you are gonna do something like this you shouldn't do it half-assed.
He clarified to say that he only added it to the showstopper list so that if a user neglects the list (which is comprised of very reasonable and easily preventable falicies) than there are documented grounds on which he can ban them.

In all, if you read the stickied documents and try to abide by them, you'll be fine.
Trasher said:
Btw, keep the swine flu shit out of this thread. I don't want to catch it in here!
I've taken the necessary precautions each time I go into this thread:

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Ok so about the map stuff...I'm glad the exploit was found on Sanctum NOW rather than in matchmaking. I don't think Vh should have to resubmit if he is able to fix this error without changing the map in any significant way. It just seems like a waste of everyones time.

I love trying to break shit and get out of maps so feel free to send maps my way so that I can try to break them. Trust me, I love the challenge!

Backflip, I don't know about the first clip you put up with the hit detection vs lag ish but the second one is probably due to the body health. Everyone has shields and body health. It's how you can be no shields and take a few body shots. That takes longer to regenerate than the shields do. So while you may be full shields after a real near death fight, you might not be full health for some amount of seconds. I think that's what happened to you, it happens with grenades as well. Good games today though, even though we lost like 85 percent of them lol.
 
Y'know I think it won't hurt if the maps in our group destined to Atlas go through some testing on customs night, namely trying to break out of the map. It would only take a few minutes but it can save a lot more in the end.

We can test the new maps after we play a game on it or something.
 
vhfive said:
good news map is fixable + $10 which will be placed for more rocks in the plains
bad news i forgot to save when i went to dinner and have to redo about 30 min of work :/
i'm sick of forging right now so i'll probably finish tomorrow

So you know, I'm amending what I said before about resubmitting the map. I do expect a new submission, but if the changes to your map are minor, you can reuse the old films. But I will expect at least one film in which you prove the exploit has been fixed.

If you somehow end up tweaking major portions of the map to block the exploit, however, I'll expect entirely new films. It sounds like this is not the case, however.
 
Shishka said:
So you know, I'm amending what I said before about resubmitting the map. I do expect a new submission, but if the changes to your map are minor, you can reuse the old films. But I will expect at least one film in which you prove the exploit has been fixed.

If you somehow end up tweaking major portions of the map to block the exploit, however, I'll expect entirely new films. It sounds like this is not the case, however.
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vhfive said:
good news map is fixable + $10 which will be placed for more rocks in the plains
bad news i forgot to save when i went to dinner and have to redo about 30 min of work :/
i'm sick of forging right now so i'll probably finish tomorrow
As Shishka's said, no new match films are required if your changes are minor. If you add more cover or whatever with the extra $10 it may creep into the "needs new films" territory. What I suggest, Vh, is that you spend the extra case on blocking even more potential exploits. As I said earlier, grenade jumps are the most basic way people break out but there are many more methods like jumping off other characters. These are less pressing as completing them in a game is exponentially harder, but if you've got the extra budget and don't want to have to make new films, seems to me you should do that.
 
GhaleonEB said:
I manage to cough up the largest, blackest thing I've ever coughed up that night. About half the size of a golf ball, with the consistency of a gummy bear - almost SOLID. And it's completely, solid jet black. I do this twice over the next few hours.
Given that your doctor and the emergency room had no clue what it might be, I didn't have a LOT of hope for Google... but everything I'm finding is coming from smokers or ex-smokers. You were never a smoker, were you?

Gah. I hope it gets better. :(
 
GhaleonEB said:
Yes. Story time:
I manage to cough up the largest, blackest thing I've ever coughed up that night. About half the size of a golf ball, with the consistency of a gummy bear - almost SOLID. And it's completely, solid jet black. I do this twice over the next few hours.

omg r u the green mile

Fuck, dude. Go to a real population center and talk to a real doctor. Not this Dr Quinn bullshit
 
GhaleonEB said:
I manage to cough up the largest, blackest thing I've ever coughed up that night. About half the size of a golf ball, with the consistency of a gummy bear - almost SOLID. And it's completely, solid jet black. I do this twice over the next few hours.
Sounds like its time for a Help Me GAF! I'm Coughing Up Mysterious Black Gummy Balls thread.
 
Louis Wu said:
Given that your doctor and the emergency room had no clue what it might be, I didn't have a LOT of hope for Google... but everything I'm finding is coming from smokers or ex-smokers. You were never a smoker, were you?

Gah. I hope it gets better. :(
Nope, never smoked or been around smokers. Just some nasty tissue infection. My own Dr. Google inspection thinks it's tonsilitis. The medicine man said my thonsils were swollen, but not spotty, which is apparantly the threshold.

Then again, my wife is coming down with it now. So who the hell knows.

Anyhoo. As has been said, playing more games on Sanctum is no big deal - it's great map. In fact, I'm all for playing the needed three games in a row, provided they are all different game types, on Saturday. I think we should take the maps that are in what we think is a submittable state and really power them through. There's no self-interest here at all, no sir.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Wow. The lighting difference really is huge. Blue balls add so much.
Lighting pretty much always enhances maps (unless it's purple or seizure-inducing flashing). I came across some people, however, who didn't really care. It was in a little workshop sorta thing using Valve's hammer editor.

Botolf: Aren't you going to run lighting on that?
Dude: Nah, I can't be bothered.
Botolf: But... your map will look ugly!
Dude: Meh
/ Botolf's inner graphics whore dies a little

My map was dark with some blue low-lying spotlights to light up the ground with some red flickering light from fire sources around the map. 90% of the group's maps were totally unlit, every texture as bright as the last. Facepalm.
 
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Till it happens - Organize a match against PAF (Saturday 9 EST?)
4.29 Butane's Chimera
4.29 DualX's Train Station (updated?)
4.28 Ghaleon's Elevation 1.0
4.28 Grimm's map Turf v3 (updated)
4.26 Vhfiive's Sanctum (updated)
4.23 Ghaleon's Sandstorm 2.0
4.23 EazyB's Brouhaha v1
4.23 Ghaleon's Entrenched 1.2 (updated)

Sixthsubset's GAF map blog.

Map maker - Map(s)
Alisdair Bnet - Aspirite v2
Bladed Expert Bnet – Mage v2.2
Butane123 Bnet - Chimera, Neosho 1.2
Dax01 Bnet – Outskirts, Geminie
DeputyMoonman Bnet - Goldmine v1.5
DualX Bnet - Train Station?
EazyB Bnet- Brouhaha v1, Ber Ber Creek, Ber Ber Customs, Rise v3.1
Exfixate Bnet - Gangplank Galley
Fin Bnet - Refuge v1
FourDoor Bnet - Air Stream 0.2
Ghaleon Bnet - Elevation 1.0, Sandstorm 2.0, Centrifugal, Entrenched 1.2
GM Bullfrog Bnet – Kulkukan
Grimm Fandango Bnet – Turf II v3
Havok Bnet - Agartha, Phaeton
Insaniac Bnet - Sky Perch
Metroidvania Bnet - Mountain 1.03
Merguson Bnet – Firmament v1.2
Nokyard Bnet - Grifball High, Grifball Palace
Oozer Bnet - Remnant a1.0
Silly.Mikey Bnet - So High
Spirit Bnet– Pitfall V2, Worship
Spudbud Bnet - gave up on life
Striker Bnet - Access
Vhfive Bnet - Platform, Sanctum, Flying Dutchman
Vociferous Bnet - Abaddon

Tools
Fourdoor - All default objects moved to crypt
Nokyard - Girfball High can be modified to take advantage of it's existing flat flooring in the sky bubble.
Vociferous - All objects on the ground moved aside so that they aren't in the way.
Vociferous - All default objects moved to the skybubble
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Highlights
These two maps were approved from Atlas and will be hitting MM next month. It's important to note that both maps are not necessarily in their final state at this point. For those forging it may also be useful to look at these maps to see what a MM-worthy map looks like, it's spawns, and other things.

Utah Mambo
Punishment v2

And again, since no one at Bungie wants to make the MM sandbox variants easily available I've taken the initiative of hunting them down. Here's what I've been able to find.
Vessel
Cubed
Plurality
Tundra
Tundra Swat

Still on the lookout for:
Vindictive
Wastelands
 
Oh noes, we have to play 3 more games of Sanctum? What ever shall we do? :D More excuses to play Sanctum is always a good thing. Plus, this new Sanctum will have more plains rocks, so even more fun times.
And we get to play a lot of Entrnched games, too. I just hope we get 12+ people this Saturday.

I hope you (and your family) get better Ghal. But as Shishka said, maybe visiting a real doctor would be a good idea. Living in the boonies is bad for your health.

But yea, this Satuday should be Atlas crunch time. We could focus on Atlas-hopeful maps and play them the majority of the time. I also want to play Ghaleon's Colossous map.
 
Thanks for the updated links, Ghaleon and Eazy. Now all I need is some games. :)

If any volunteers are needed for re-do on Sanctum, I'll help out (4v4, Multi-CTF BRs?).
 
Merguson said:
Fire Joseph Staten, hire Mr Vociferous.

just had to do something random
Wat? That would mark the end of Bungie and would be the worst trade ever in the history of the universe.

Did I ever tell you that when I met Staten he said, "Oh, you're that guy." I'm pretty sure that somewhere in between bursts of rampant and incessant gushing, I peed my pants a little.

When we first met, Wu told me, "Heh, I expected someone. A bit more portly." I peed a little there too for some reason.
 
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