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The Official Halo 3 Thread

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Dirtbag 504 said:
Brilliant.
I'd also love to see a player controlled reward system built into the actual game.

I dont know how you achieve it, but it'd be neat if there was a sportmanship medal. Maybe something that happens in the postgame lobby that involves rating the last match -- like ipod star rating like system pops up or something (has to be quick / seamless though.. nothing as slow moving as the avoid player thing). I'll leave this to the experts, but there is got to be a way to promote it within the actual game as well.
There should also be a way to go to an individual's XBL profile and rating that person's behavior. Perhaps it would allow the user to prefer or avoid the player based on their in-game behavior, voice communications, and profile content. If they had a working system like that, XBL as a whole would be a better place.

fin said:
So last night this dude had 0 exp and was at level 44. Is this bannable behavior? Is there a list somewhere that names all things bannable?
Just means he quit out of a bunch of games. He could also be doing the negative exp to level up others.

In the latest BWU they say:
Another thing we’d file under the “peace of mind” changes portion of TU2 is that we’ll be taking a much closer look at habitual quitters and their contribution to the Halo 3 population. It’s no secret that players quitting out of a game makes a suboptimal experience for those left behind, from black screen host migrations, to the general sour-taste losing while down-a-man actually leaves. For the purposes of this week’s update, this isn’t a “don’t quit or you’ll be banned” threat – but instead, a courteous notification that this is something we’re investigating and intend to continue investigating in the coming months.
 
So last night this dude had 0 exp and was at level 44. Is this bannable behavior? Is there a list somewhere that names all things bannable?
 
Dirtbag 504 said:
Brilliant.
I'd also love to see a player controlled reward system built into the actual game.

I dont know how you achieve it, but it'd be neat if there was a sportmanship medal. Maybe something that happens in the postgame lobby that involves rating the last match -- like ipod star rating like system pops up or something (has to be quick / seamless though.. nothing as slow moving as the avoid player thing). I'll leave this to the experts, but there is got to be a way to promote it within the actual game as well.
Maybe give bonuses for players who go on multi-game streaks without quitting and without betrayals. +2 XP and a medal for every 10 consecutive games with no betrayals or quits.

In the next game, hopefully content like armor permutations are tied to in-game accomplishments, such as medals,rather than straight up achievements as a more concrete reward system.
 
Cap7ain Blood said:
Team and party communication makes Halo 3 matchmaking so much more enjoyable lol, its the only way to fly.

That's the first setting that I change to when I log in for a Halo night.

Plus, you like to sing? Mute. Criticize me for no kills 20 seconds into the game? Mute. Have a bit of a potty mouth? Mute. I don't like your gamertag or your ugly face? Mute.

Mute happens and I love it.
 
Mr Vociferous said:
Most important and awesome feature Halo 3 incorporated. Easily.
Yup, my only complaint is that it doesn't save the setting. It and the quick mute should be implemented into every Live game.
 
EazyB said:
Yup, my only complaint is that it doesn't save the setting. It and the quick mute should be implemented into every Live game.
Doesn't save the setting? The Screen brightness setting also suffers from that bug as well : (
 
Shishka said:
I think you guys might be laser-focusing on MLG a bit, as though it's specific to halo that competitive jerks suck all the fun out of an FPS. That's sorta been the case since at least Quake. =)

The problem as that so many of the "MLG-hopeful" (I like that term) aren't actually professional players, in that they are not sponsored, and are not bringing home award money. Instead, they're just super-competitive jerks that have lost sight of the fact that they're just playing a video game. Many of them are just as interested in being insulting, rude, and racist to the gamertags they see on their screen as they are playing Halo. Many of them are unable to establish for themselves that being good at Halo isn't the only thing that matters.

Again, this isn't something new to games, let alone FPSs, it just so happens with Halo that there is an identifiable quantity of them that associate themselves with actual professional players, but really are just riding their coattails. If I had a dime every time someone told me that the MLG playlist needed to be modified a certain way without having the authority to make those assessments, I could retire on a private island shaped like a skull and live in the hollowed out dormant Volcano at its center.

The REAL pros that I've met have always been, well, professional. Walshy is a great example of a totally classy guy that can still have fun even though he's an extremely competitive player (LOL @ the kids that made excuses for how I could ever possibly kill Walshy at PAX last week, btw). The guys I've met from Final Boss, Classic, and Carbon were all really cool as well. For the most part, the "actual" pros are cool.

What I'd love to see from MLG as an organization, and I've been saying this since Halo 2, is a stance that encourages (or potentially enforces) sportsmanlike conduct amongst its players. Use the guys that are actually professional as a template for the peanut gallery walking around shouting "rape" at everyone they walk past. Actively establishing protocol for player behavior, even at tournaments, would go a long way toward removing the tarnish that is collecting around their name. Instead of allowing their community step on their name, a philosophy of sportsmanship could improve the MLGs image to the rest of the community and make them the model community that, frankly, they should be.

It's really hard to accomplish what you said in the last part when 2/3rds of the Company is ran by jackasses.
 
EazyB said:
Yup, my only complaint is that it doesn't save the setting. It and the quick mute should be implemented into every Live game.
Yeah, that's incredibly annoying. I hate having to hear some asshole sing at me while I'm getting corpse humped to remember that I'm not on the "Team & Party" audio setting. I'm hoping that wasn't an intentional move on Bungie's part. I'm even more hopeful that a Title Update one day will address those little bugs.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Maybe give bonuses for players who go on multi-game streaks without quitting and without betrayals. +2 XP and a medal for every 10 consecutive games with no betrayals or quits.

In the next game, hopefully content like armor permutations are tied to in-game accomplishments, such as medals,rather than straight up achievements as a more concrete reward system.

I like where your heads at

LAUGHTREY said:
It's really hard to accomplish what you said in the last part when 2/3rds of the Company is ran by jackasses.
Care to back this up? I dont know who runs MLG personally, so far as I know, you could be correct. But critiquing groupthink with your own brand of it isn't exactly a fair argument.
 
GhaleonEB said:
In the next game, hopefully content like armor permutations are tied to in-game accomplishments, such as medals,rather than straight up achievements as a more concrete reward system.
In the next Halo game armor permutations will be unlocked by beating a hard boss with many hit points or collecting enough gild to buy the best boots at the shop.

It is a JRPG after all.
 
I think the first word that usually comes to my mind when I think about MLG players is, "douchebags with delusions of grandeur."
 
JB1981 said:
is it me or has the halo community gotten more civil and generally more fun to play with? i have run into a lot of cool random people lately.

i guess maybe the hardocore players that stick around are generally more mature and cool?

When the chips are down, these... "civilized people"... they'll eat each other. You'll see, I'll show ya.
 
Kibbles said:
When the chips are down, these... "civilized people"... they'll eat each other. You'll see, I'll show ya.
Sounds like we're talking about the End Times here or something. Lol.
 
Kibbles said:
When the chips are down, these... "civilized people"... they'll eat each other. You'll see, I'll show ya.
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Let him tell you something about Hu-Mans, kibble.
 
Glad I kept my avatar, so fitting. :p
xxjuicesxx said:
A city is only two meals away from anarchy.
:lol :lol Introduce a little anarchy, upset the established order, and everything becomes... chaos.
Cocopjojo said:
Sounds like we're talking about the End Times here or something. Lol.
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Cap7ain Blood said:
Team and party communication makes Halo 3 matchmaking so much more enjoyable lol, its the only way to fly.
I tried this setting out recently and now I find myself turning it on every time I play. I wish it were saved to my profile though.
 
CrazedArabMan said:
Hey, I don't know if this has been posted but http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/09/08/rumor-ms-planning-five-hour-long-new-xbox-experience-media-blit/

It seems way to good to be true but if for some reason it is true, I can see a neogaf exploding over the immense awesomeness, but once again its only a rumor.
I was looking at that earlier...most of it sounds like BS, such as giving away 6 Xbox originals, but maybe some of it will pan out. Considering Microsoft doesn't exactly have a ton of heavy-hitters coming after Gears, it wouldn't surprise me if they'd try to hype people up during the holiday season by announcing some new games for 2009. Maybe what Bungie's working on will be one of said games.
 
CrazedArabMan said:
Hey, I don't know if this has been posted but http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/09/08/rumor-ms-planning-five-hour-long-new-xbox-experience-media-blit/

It seems way to good to be true but if for some reason it is true, I can see a neogaf exploding over the immense awesomeness, but once again its only a rumor.

You're right that it seems way to good to be true.

6 xbox titles for _free?_

but the rumor source confirms Assassins Creed 2, Mass Effect 2, a new Conker title, a new Rare shooter and two new Halo games are in the mix. Phew!

Yeah.....no.
 
Dirtbag 504 said:
I like where your heads at


Care to back this up? I dont know who runs MLG personally, so far as I know, you could be correct. But critiquing groupthink with your own brand of it isn't exactly a fair argument.

I know them personally.
 
Yeah, when I read it and saw 6 xbox originals for free, 2 halo games, etc. I wanted to believe but it just seems way to nice of Microsoft, but hey you never know, maybe some of the more reasonable stuff on the list is true, aka 2 halo games, (Bungie's and Peter Jackson's) and stuff like that. I know there going to have something to celebrate but I don't think it would be like that. Who knows maybe MS has a change of heart.
 
Trasher said:
Oh wow. So how do they do this grab thing? Does someone actually have to personally go in and download your video?

Btw, check out this video. I never knew you could get to such places in Guardian...

http://www.gamevee.com/viewVideo/Halo_3/GeeVee/Halo_3__Hidden_Grunts_on_Guardian/802006
No, I'm sure it's automated, since the majority of videos stop at weird times. My latest one is twice the length it has to be because the capturing continued for, like, thirty seconds after the actual clip was finished playing.

http://www.gamevee.com/viewVideo/Halo_3/GeeVee/Seeya/833366
 
LAUGHTREY said:
Theres no other way then someone starting up their xbox and downloading your video and using a capture device to put it on their site. That's why it's so slow.

That job would suck, probably an intern's duty.
 
Cocopjojo said:
No, I'm sure it's automated, since the majority of videos stop at weird times.

Not only that, but it would take a small army to capture, encode, and upload all those videos. Ask me how I know.

:)
 
It must have been stated in the thread someplace before but how many projects does Bungie have going on right now? I know some are halo related and some aren't but does anyone know the number?
 
Cocopjojo said:
No, I'm sure it's automated, since the majority of videos stop at weird times. My latest one is twice the length it has to be because the capturing continued for, like, thirty seconds after the actual clip was finished playing.

http://www.gamevee.com/viewVideo/Halo_3/GeeVee/Seeya/833366


Can you download Halo 3 clips? As far as I know the only way to watch them is you download them on your 360 and put the disc in, go to theater mode and select the clip. I don't know how that could be automated.
 
Cocopjojo said:
No, I'm sure it's automated, since the majority of videos stop at weird times. My latest one is twice the length it has to be because the capturing continued for, like, thirty seconds after the actual clip was finished playing.

http://www.gamevee.com/viewVideo/Halo_3/GeeVee/Seeya/833366

I'm sure it's automated as well. I did some searching before and found a few articles about the fact that it's automated but no specific details. There's definitely an interface for getting files via the file share, but the system for launching the download, recording it, transcoding it, etc. must be a very complex system. Regardless, there's just no way that this thing is manual.

It's probably using the file share system on Bungie to queue up a list of downloads for a particular account, constantly has Halo 3 running and then sends commands via a customized gamepad controller hooked up to a PC to send the commands to initiate the Theatre view and delete the clip when its done. It probably gets information from Bungie.net about the length of the video and then gives it a bit of a buffer of time at the end to ensure it's not cutting off any video.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10019059-2.html?hhTest=1&tag=blog.1
http://www.command-tab.com/2008/08/19/how-does-gamevee-grab-work/

Just about anything can be done automatically with some ingenuity. I used to play an MMORPG game called The Realm, which was using the same 2D engine that drove the King's Quest PC games. I knew a player, who was also a programmer, who had carpal tunnel syndrome and had a hard time with all the mouse clicks required to play the game. She who wrote a system to automate combat by scanning the screen for specific monster colors, getting the mouse to automatically click on the monster (via windows message commands) and then click "attack", then automatically fight the monster using the same scanning system. It would attack a monster using specific spells, refill its health and mana automatically using health packs and mana orbs that were in specific positions in your inventory, etc. Needless to say, the Auto Player was basically one of the first macro systems for an MMO and it got leaked to the general public and almost ruined the game ;-)

Automating Halo 3 video grabbing sorta looks easier when this is put into perspective.

*edit* haha - just did a quick search and found a post by the programmer here:

http://www.philc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?start=30&t=77

Very interesting read.
 
Cap7ain Blood said:
It must have been stated in the thread someplace before but how many projects does Bungie have going on right now? I know some are halo related and some aren't but does anyone know the number?

3, good sir.
 
urk said:
I think you're muddling playful ribbing and banter with what really occurs nine times out of ten when a casual group runs into a squad of MLG tourney hopefuls.

but that happens to me when i go into team slayer or social slayer or btb, too. whether there are mlg players about or not.

maybe it's just that me being a fan of pro halo since agp and 50k, before mlg was even about, i can spot out who really is part of the community and who's posing. and while there's many fakers, it's pretty rare to get paired up in matchmaking against an mlg employee or somebody who's actually known and when i do oftentimes they have their mic unplugged or don't talk on live, or they're pretty normal

ok, i'm not saying the community is as nice as gaf halo is or really even close to it. there's lot of guys i can't stand, mostly the forum kids who post more than they play, like dan bauer, and semipros/am kids can get pretty cocky and unbearable. it's just that lots of young immature kids latch on to mlg and bring it down with them. there's tons and tons of really awesome mlg players and smart kids especially on the forge forums. it's got a long way to go, for sure, but it's not all bad.

the problem i think is that when anybody comes into this gaf halo thread and say they like and play mlg, no matter how nice they are, they're going to get flamed or ignored. at least try and be a little more open to them, and maybe make things a little better
 
No way is that rumor true. Microsoft releasing this huge DLC pack for Halo 3 for free? HOLY SHIT. The whole event sounds really awesome, but I'll keep my hopes down for now until it's announced. 2 new Halo games, new conker, AC2, ME2? No way. Please be true.
 
sixthsubset said:
there's tons and tons of really awesome mlg players and smart kids especially on the forge forums. it's got a long way to go, for sure, but it's not all bad.

Of course. I didn't mean to condemn the entire community and anyone associated. I think it's already been summed nicely by yourself and a few others. It's the people who parrot some of the behavior exhibited in league play that tend to be the most aggressive and fatiguing.

You're right. Almost all of the exposure I've had to the people who are active MLG tournament participants seems to indicate that they're pretty normal people. I was probably being a bit reactionary.

:)
 
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