BladedExpert
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backflip10019 said:
QFT. Nothing worse than hearing that familier noise coming from behind and getting that pink shit stuck all over you with no way to escape
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QFT. Nothing worse than hearing that familier noise coming from behind and getting that pink shit stuck all over you with no way to escape
GM Bullfrog
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BladedExpert said:QFT. Nothing worse than hearing that familier noise coming from behind and getting that pink shit stuck all over you with no way to escape
The only thing I have noticed that works sometimes is strafing perpendicular to them and jumping. If you have a BR sometimes you can make it out alive. I agree I hate getting hit with that thing.
The Librarian
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wat The Needler is an awesome weapon; it isn't useless now like it was in Halo 3. The plasma rifle is good, so is the SMG, the regenerator, the energy drainer, the spiker, even the plasma pistol and the M6D.backflip10019 said:
And the AR is the best weapon in Halo 3, and it's MC's favorite weapon.
GM Bullfrog
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Dax01 said:
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BladedExpert
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Tashi0106 said:
Isolation/Pit/Last Resort.......you're out in the open, going someplace, minding your own business.....theres a noise that sounds an aweful lot like a needle sticking to someone.....hold the phone, its sticking to ME!! As soon as that first ones in there, you know you're going to die.....its inevitable.
Hate that motherfucking pink bastard :lol
backflip10019
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BladedExpert said:
Not only that, but many times when I get killed with it, I only get hit by like 3 or 4 fucking needles. This happened to me at least 3 times while playing last night. Honestly, it's a bullshit weapon, takes no skill to use (just shoot randomly in the direction of the enemy) and everytime I pick it up to use it it doesn't fucking work for me.
AND ITS PINK.
BladedExpert said:
:lol :lol If a guy can sneak up to me and hit me with a needler, I'll give him props but its those assholes who hop in the mancannon on narrows, hitting people top mid that I just can't stand. They just go back and forth on mancannon raking in the kills. I get so pissed. :lol
GM Bullfrog
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backflip10019 said:
The Librarian
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I don't see the MC on the Halo 3 cover holding the BR.backflip10019 said:
Shake Appeal
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Insightful contradiction!backflip10019 said:
backflip10019
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Shake Appeal said:
Not quite. I mean I actually HAVE SKILL enough to use the BR and Snipe pretty well. The fact that I have SKILL means I won't be able to degrade myself to such unskillfullness that is required to be able to effectively use the needler.
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not a werdbackflip10019 said:
BladedExpert
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Dax01 said:
Damn well should be if you ask me :lol
backflip10019
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Dax01 said:
Yeah it is, the definition is Dax01.
backflip10019
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fin said:
You know what that means?
Another free map?
The Librarian
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backflip10019 said:
Shake Appeal
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If I can play guitar and so never learned to play the violin, this doesn't mean that people who play the violin are inferior to me just because I can't get music out of one.backflip10019 said:
backflip10019
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Dax01 said:
jk
Shake Appeal said:
Yeah yeah yeah.
I like complaining about the needler.
Shake Appeal
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The thing about the needler is the clip is so small that as long as you can find cover or dodge a few of them at range, the guy who is splurging at you is fucked in a couple seconds when he has to reload.
Shake Appeal said:
Not only that but when you're using the needler you need to make sure you get in enough needles to kill the guy, because with the needler you either get killed or are barely hurt at all...its not a weapon you combo with, you need to get'r done.
I dislike the needler because it gives the player no real chance to fight back and most importantly because it's so inconsistent. There are many times where I'm absolutely shocked that I'm able to vaporize a player with only 4-5 shots but other times I can unload a full clip and never trigger the explosion. There's no real trick to aiming it, it seems to be about locating a player on your screen at mid range, holding the trigger down, and hopping the explosion is triggered before your clip is unloaded. Unless I'm missing something or my shitty connection is causing these inconsistencies, then this is how it works.backflip10019 said:
Not to pick on Ghaleon but watching his needler movies (vid 1, vid 2) look to show this as well. To be fair, I should pick up the needler for a match and post it to compare what works and what doesn't.
No, it wasn't a snipes game. The first one that pissed me off was warthog-related, so I understand that, but this just puzzles me:xxjuicesxx said:
Right after getting killed by that red guy in the turret, me and my teammate spawn... with our backs to this red guy in the turret.
But yes, Standoff spawns are some of the worst in the game, Bungie needs to do something about them. The weighting of the indoor spawns is probably low because Bungie doesn't want players to be spawned completely out of the action, because that's frustrating at times, but spawning far away from the action is better than many of these outdoor spawns.
The Librarian
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Um, how many times have you used the needler and is it so hard for you to swerve from side to side?EazyB said:
Well feel free to explain the magic behind it. From your videos it looks like sometimes you lead the shot, other times you keep em in your reticle, occasionally you trail the shot. And this is regardless of the player's movement. I envy your ability to get kills consistently with it because whenever I pick it up it only leads to frustration and what I feel are oftentimes cheap kills.GhaleonEB said:
I don't know how many times I've used it. Check my Bnet profile if you're that interested (ya probably should triple the amount of registered to find how many times I've attempted to get kills with it). And strafing back and forth does not work. Sometimes strafing in one direction before they start unloading works and other times it doesn't. I find it pretty easy to pop in and out of cover once I see someone using the needler but it's the hallways and open plains that make evasion nearly impossible.Dax01 said:
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EazyB said:
I'm in the same boat. Tests need to be done! IN THE NAME OF SCIENCE!
Its simple enough, if your target is moving at a path perpendicular to your needles, you will miss. You want your reticule to be red to home the needles, so leading your shots do nothing. Fire the needler at enemies unawares (at enemies from the side who are strafing, or from the back/front, who are approaching/leaving your position)
GM Bullfrog
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Dax01 said:I don't see the MC on the Halo 3 cover holding the BR.
What was he holding on the cover of Halo 2? And what did Bungie later say about that mistake?
The Librarian
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MC had SMGs on the front cover of Halo 2! And yes, it was a mistake for not including the AR in Halo 2.GM Bullfrog said:
Um, yes, swerving from side to side does work.EazyB said:
You are detecting my inability to aim straight, not my mad skills with the Needler. :lolEazyB said:
The shots curve wide. In general, the farther away you are from the target, the better - the shots have more time to curve into their target, even if they are strafing. If they are close but not moving very perpendicular to my firing position, they still go down. If they are moving perpendicular to me and are close, the needles miss.
I use it as a weapon of opportunity. In both of those videos I've moved to try and flank opponents so they don't see where the shots are coming from. In Standoff, my opening move (in Slayer) is to try and grab the camo and the needler, then move up next to the enemy base. From that distance and vantage point, I usually can get a few kills as needles curve in behind guys. On Last Resort, it's the vertical distance that allows the space for the shots to curve into place.
It's surprisingly nuanced, and I often fail with it. But I think it's fun to use. In general I like the weirder weapons in the Halo arsenal the most - the ones that don't fit in a linear path of power/distance/accuracy. Brute Shot, Needler, Spartan Laser. That kind of stuff.
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DopeyFish said:
Pretty sure they said starting with the SMG was a mistake because it didn't follow the golden rule of 3 (Weapons, Melee, Grenades). IIRC this was mentioned in the Et Tu Brute ViDoc.
Nevermind the fact that it was because the SMG was a dual weildable weapon. The AR is nothing more than a slightly longer range SMG. BR FTW!
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No, you're not getting it. MC is featured on all three covers of each Halo 3 game with an automatic weapon. The first with the MA5B, the second with the SMG, and the third with the MA5C. Clearly he likes the AR and SMG more so than the BR.:lolGM Bullfrog said:
GhaleonEB said:
I think my problem is I've been trying to lead my shots as that's just what I naturally assume would be best for a strafing target. Tonight, I shall get my needler on.
And I too like to use a range of weapons (with the exception of dual weildies) but the needler doesn't fit in well with the type of arsenal I try to carry. I'll probably always be holding a BR unless there are multiple power weapons and my teammates aren't around to pick them up. I'll replace my AR with a long range power weapon and avoid close quarters. Or I'll pick up a brute shot, shotty, mauler, etc. for CQC to be more versatile. The needler is a midrange weapon that kinda plays the same role as the BR will just less flexibility.
Well according to Dax's "logic" the SMG would be the perfect weapon for the trifecta because it's range is so shitty you have no choice but to run into each other and melee. I mean, that's what makes the AR so awesome.GM Bullfrog said:
GM Bullfrog
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Dax01 said:No, you're not getting it. MC is featured on all three covers of each Halo 3 game with an automatic weapon. The first with the MA5B, the second with the SMG, and the third with the MA5C. Clearly he likes the AR and SMG more so than the BR.:lol
Blasphemy!
There must be some sort of contractual obligation to pose with those weapons because everytime I fireup campaign (and multiplayer ) he seems to use the BR more than any other weapon. GM Bullfrog
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Mr Jared said:
Have you ever visited Scott Keen's Poker Forum? They used to have a word filter that would change gun to bacon. It was funny.
And that's the sort of attitude that gets a thermonuclear bomb welded to your back and gets you shoved down a hole. GG.Dax01 said:No, you're not getting it. MC is featured on all three covers of each Halo 3 game with an automatic weapon. The first with the MA5B, the second with the SMG, and the third with the MA5C. Clearly he likes the AR and SMG more so than the BR.:lol
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watHavok said:
looks at thread sees AR/BR fight starting again. grasps on to needler discussion in hopes of steering the thread away
I agree with Easy the needler is very inconsistent for me also and I often pick it up during the beginning of a pit game and spam the rocket tunnel
please dont go back to BR/AR
I agree with Easy the needler is very inconsistent for me also and I often pick it up during the beginning of a pit game and spam the rocket tunnel
please dont go back to BR/AR
Shake Appeal
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Think of it like a series of little pink swords. You want a red reticle.EazyB said:
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