ethomaz
Banned
Well what I can tell about the gameplay of the first is that it is the best TPS gameplay in the market.
It is really shines in higher difficult and the MP factions.
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The Last of Us Part II - Review Thread - *NO. SPOILERS. PERIOD.*
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It is really shines in higher difficult and the MP factions.
ethomaz
Banned
Well there is not so much to improve in the perfection gameplay of the first one.I mean, it was one of the first things i spotted regarding reviews while on twitter. Maybe you are more prone to it than you believe.
The rest of the reviews don't seem to present how much better the combat is over the first title, which was a little weak already.
Perhaps it is underutilized in the original campaign.
That makes me already miss the MP Factions in the sequel... terrible choice.
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GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I mean, it was one of the first things i spotted regarding reviews while on twitter. Maybe you are more prone to it than you believe.
The rest of the reviews don't seem to present how much better the combat is over the first title, which was a little weak already.
It's really weird because in the preview footage and the review footage, I can actually see that the combat is much better. Even though the reviews I've seen say it has better gameplay, I don't actually need them to tell me ... I have eyes.
Cravis
Member
Kinda have to. The game is review proof. You give it a middling review then they will cancel you. Gotta be positive and gush over it.
Only part of the original I enjoyed was the opening. Game blew its load there. Game is just not for me.
Sakura Doritos
Member
Rhurikan has issues with the story arc for some characters saying that some characters are poorly written by violating consistency of established personas within parts of the game. He only enjoyed about 60% of the story. Said the game is graphically and mechanically sound. Still liked the first one better story wise.
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MiguelItUp
Member
See, for me, when I played it I couldn't stop thinking about how I felt like the Gears series did TPS better. Sure, it felt a bit clunkier, but it just felt heartier, grittier, and chunkier to me.
I think even preferred Max Payne 3 or Red Dead Redemption, actually. I personally felt like all the TPS in this was perfectly adequate and nothing else.
I really did enjoy Factions though, and a LOT more than I thought I would, haha.
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PanzerAzel
Member
Show me where I said that.
It’s a laughable statement to say gaming has approached the best of what American cinema has to offer, much less has rivaled it. You honestly believe that, or you going to continue on with your straw man coming after me for something I didn’t even say?
Maybe Druckmann will place himself alongside the all-time greats of the silver screen with TLoU II, who knows. The potential is there, but sorry, it’s going to take a bit more for me to consider the all-time classics of the big screen to be matched, much less rivaled.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
It's true the gameplay of the first game is so well crafted, tense and dynamic and it looks like they took it up a notch to new heights. That alone would go a long way to justifying these scores. For me the brilliance of the first is the marriage of super tight combat with a compelling story and setting.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
So, when do you think it's going to happen? In a game you DO like perhaps? Definitely not in a game you haven't seen, obviously ...
Could this be that game? Who knows. I'll make my mind up when I actually play it and see it.
HotPocket69
Banned
Not better than Vanquish or Max Payne 3
Punkster88
Banned
Holy shit. lmao
ethomaz
Banned
Max Payne is fine... Vanquish not my taste.
Platinum is overrated here in GAF... imo they never did a great game and even the most talked Bayonetta has average gameplay.
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Blond
Banned
I want to immediately shit on this but let's not act like contextual violence doesn't help or hurt the mood of the game.
Manhunt and Manhunt 2 are great examples that work well with this review.
Manhunt - violent, tense, a struggle with survival where all the things you do have some form of context in the greater arch of the story
Manhunt 2 - like TLOU 2, seems to be more violent, better gameplay, violence still exist and is more gruesome but in the greater story the violence inflicted seems almost cruel at times because the story has a guy cheering you on for doing horrific shit. You're surviving yes, but some of the violence comes across as choice than necessary, like you breaking into the fetish club only to slaughter everyone inside for no real story progress or killing security guards at the docks that have nothing to do with
I still don't have the game so I can't say that her viewpoints are justified or not, but I do know where she's coming from.
Helios
Member
They aren't even trying to hide it, especially when the first reviewer that had anything bad to say about the game gets called "Irrelevant", "a paid shill", etc.
I already knew what I was getting into when I clicked the thread but it's still dissapointing.
Entroyp
Member
Moogle11
Banned
Glad to see Naughty Dog delivered again. The first game and all the Uncharteds are Amin my all time favorite games and this has easily been my most anticipated game this generation.
And damnit, I just realized we’ll ve out of town the 20th-23rd. I had in my head that trip was the weekend after this launched.
Anyway, going dark on TLOU threads after this post as I’ve avoided spoilers thus far.
And damnit, I just realized we’ll ve out of town the 20th-23rd. I had in my head that trip was the weekend after this launched.
Anyway, going dark on TLOU threads after this post as I’ve avoided spoilers thus far.
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Vroadstar
Member
Holy shit, indeed.... with all the drive-bys. You'll last long here neo
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digoutyoursoul
Member
8/10 is still a good score, I remember a reviewer at Eurogamer getting terrible abuse for his Uncharted 3 review with that score. Also remember Cliffy B kicking off at Jim Sterling for his 8/10 Gears 3 review. I don’t like some reviewers, their smug attitudes in particular however I can sympathise when you see shit like that going on.
Endless Fluff
Banned
Yes, but my point is still the reception of US, the general public. Not reviewers. SkillUp has a good argument for this and it's something along the lines of "If someone has a reason to dislike TLOU2 it's in the 12 hours I'm not allowed to talk about".
There have been critically well received games in the past that had bait and switch moments which were hated by gamers, making them very divisive in the community. Metal Gear Solid 2 for example was initially very divisive and it still is. You can also bet on way more negative youtube reviews in 1-2 weeks, since it will generate clicks.
Right now, after reading some reviews, I'd say I can't take most of them serious. There are a lot of pretentious statements there, like "gaming has finally grown up" and shit like that. So I made up my mind and will treat this the same way as I treated Death Stranding. I'll buy it next week and form my own opinion.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
seriously. Lmfao
digoutyoursoul
Member
thief183
Member
First of all I have to admit that I don't really like Third person games and narrative driven games, so I'm biased (I skipped the cutscenes in the first tlou.... so take my opinion from a prospective of a person that only wants gameplay without story
)My Grip in this is not the "spoiler thing" that is ok, is that it doesn't sound "legit" I mean, a lot of other games didn't have those limitation and good reviewer didn't spoil anything, but maybe I'm just pissed that a narrative game is getting so much love
Edit: I don't want to sound as a console fanboy, my post history show that I'm totally in the PC only side of things so there is no other bias other than personal preferences in my post
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thief183
Member
I mean, it was one of the first things i spotted regarding reviews while on twitter. Maybe you are more prone to it than you believe.
The rest of the reviews don't seem to present how much better the combat is over the first title, which was a little weak already.
This is an example of what I'm worried about... so the gameplay is similar to the precessor (it sucked) but damn bast game ever... wtf, this is a game not a book or a movie.
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
“ Surprise Motherfuckers “
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
The Last of Us 2 solidifys the PS4 as the greatest console of all time and should be in the upper tier with SNES and PS2.
Vroadstar
Member
Do you happen to know where to buy boatload of salt, I heard it's been in short supply since the PS5 reveal. Let's partner up we can make a killing. You in?
Jigsaah
Gold Member
Yea I watched his video. He had some complaints about the game's progression, the lack of lovable characters, that the game doesn't bring anything new to the table and the story.
I don't think I was expecting a revolution here. I was in it for the graphics and the story honestly. He does say it's one of the most beutiful games he's ever played but his comments about the story concern me. I have not been spoiled yet so...that's a bit concerning.
Lionel Richie
Member
Hey! I called 96, please hold.
MiguelItUp
Member
I don't think anyone ever said that he's the "most important reviewer", I mean, reviews and reviewers are subjective. So it really doesn't matter. That being said the guy really does do quality content. It'd be a shame if people shat all over him just because of an opinion he has that others don't agree with.
Agreed. Someone is bashed for their honesty, and everyone turns on them, lmao.
Like, I get the whole "OH THERE'S 1 NEGATIVE IN A PILE OF POSITIVES" thing, it's always questionable. But considering he put out a TLOU review recently, it really makes sense with his reaction to TLOU2. Not to mention he goes into enough detail to bring about his conclusion. Again, it's subjective, and not everyone will agree. But I do, because the feelings he brings up with the original TLOU were the same I shared while playing and completing TLOU. Honestly, I was shocked at all the praise it got. I thought it was a solid game, sure, and I'd recommend it to others. But I never ever thought it was one of the best video games ever made. Some of the best story telling and characters? Definitely! But, this was a video game, not a movie. The core gameplay was overshadowed by the amazing story telling and writing, and IMO there were so many other games out there that played better.
Also, just my opinion, don't shoot I'm unarmed! Lmao.
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GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I did too ... and it may well have been BEFORE you did! I win! ... I think.
REE Machine
Banned
Anyone know if any chance it could hit a 97, or is that a pipedream now?
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Holy shit, a 96? That's incredible. One more week
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I like Skill Up and he does point out reviews are subjective. I likely won't agree with his review though, simply because of all the other positive reviews. That doesn't mean I definitely won't though. I haven't played the game yet.
Slothbeing1209
Member
Please don't hold. Up to 97 please
PanzerAzel
Member
I love TLoU. I’m going to love TLoU II, I’ve no doubt. Simply because I refuse to agree that gaming hasn’t reached, nor surpassed, the heights of cinematic achievement doesn’t mean I dislike what I won’t acknowledge. Where are you getting this shit from? I simply found a comparison ludicrous, so fucking sue me.
REE Machine
Banned
I was hoping this I want it tied with BOTWPlease don't hold. Up to 97 please
Vroadstar
Member
Exactly what I pointed out, You are already not hot off the first one you yourself mentioned, in fact, you are also parroting the same tired it's video game, not a movie cliche. TLOU was hailed as one the best, and you don't agree with it, fair enough, but more people voted it the best not only review wise but with their wallets too.
So here we are in the second one, again by the looks of it, it will even trump the first one. Yet here you are, hailing a reviewer that's it's the right "honest" review, "quality content" compared to the 79 positives whose given it 10's and 100's, 9's. You don't even have to say Skillup is the "most important reviewer" for you, the fact that you've dismissed the work of the 79 positives ones tells a lot more about your confirmation bias than what the overwhelmingly positive reviews says. So basically to you "honesty" seems to be a trait only to a reviewer who agrees with your confirmation bias.
REE Machine
Banned
Prob major plot and spoiler points they dont want shared online, they can give there review on the overall experince but not share key elements that spoil the game
Endless Fluff
Banned
Don't bait people, you know they get banned for talking about it. Go into the spoiler thread if you want to know.
MiguelItUp
Member
Okay. I was just saying that I came to my conclusion because what he said was exactly how I felt about the first. That it felt honest to me as it agreed with my view and opinion. That was it. But alright.
I don't have a particular reviewer that I follow, or a website, etc. I'd prefer to just find things out for myself.
I just thought it was interesting to see that one youtuber felt the same way about the original that I did, and it happened to be someone that I already followed. So, it's possible that his opinion on TLOU2 may very well be similar to my own based on his opinions on the sequel.
Again, will I play the TLOU2? Most likely some day, just not at launch. I'm not here bashing someone's family member or something. Christ, lmao.
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PanzerAzel
Member
Can’t discuss in here I think. Spoiler thread with the leaks.