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[nkarafo]

Super Frog was a wannabe Sonic the Hedgehog but nowhere near as good...(even graphically speaking..) Defender of the Crown was a glorified tech demo, and Body Blows was nowhere near as good as Streetfighter 2, let alone Fatal Fury, (I remember a review back when Body Blows was released that the character when controlling them it felt like they were "weightless" ) it was good from a presentation point of view but that's about it...

I don't particularly like most of these games myself but they are iconic Amiga games. Defender of the Crown was the game that showed of it's capabilities earlier on, with Shadow of the Beast doing the same thing a bit later.

Superfrog for the Amiga may not be as good as Sonic but it's still one of the best platformers for the Amiga. The standards were different.

Again, i don't think the quality of the games is the most important thing here but whether or not these games are iconic for the system. Pretty sure all the other minis had some mediocre games in the lists just for that.

..You can add the rest

You can play other games from USB, including WHDLoad games.

Well, if adding our own games is the solution then there are a lot of cheaper emulation devices that can do the job.

Which is why i believe the only thing that's worth about these minis is the cool looking replica shells.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

I don't particularly like most of these games myself but they are iconic Amiga games. Defender of the Crown was the game that showed of it's capabilities earlier on, with Shadow of the Beast doing the same thing a bit later.

Superfrog for the Amiga may not be as good as Sonic but it's still one of the best platformers for the Amiga. The standards were different.

Again, i don't think the quality of the games is the most important thing here but whether or not these games are iconic for the system. Pretty sure all the other minis had some mediocre games in the lists just for that.




Well, if adding our own games is the solution then there are a lot of cheaper emulation devices that can do the job.

Which is why i believe the only thing that's worth about these minis is the cool looking replica shells.

Not necessarily, the Amiga is an absolute pain in the arse to emulate on some devices. Having it all working in mini form is a god send for me..

I've spent a lot more on worse items in the past.

 

[Castef]

Am I correct in thinking Zool 2 had no sound effects just music? Going by that video...

At the options screen you can select between music and Sfx. Too bad raising the ram amount does not allow you to have both, as it happens in other games.

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

I've got an A1200 with a 4 gig CF card with 99% of every Amiga games ever released on it.

Very soon I'll have a restored stock A500.

I use WinUAE on my PC frequently.

I'm still getting the mini.

 

[RAIDEN1]

At the options screen you can select between music and Sfx. Too bad raising the ram amount does not allow you to have both, as it happens in other games.

Even with all that technology back then you couldn't get the best of both worlds....crazy..

 

[Castef]

Even with all that technology back then you couldn't get the best of both worlds....crazy..

Well, people like Chris Huelsbeck actually managed to sweeze wonderful audio (music + SFX) out of the barebone Amiga 500.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Well, people like Chris Huelsbeck actually managed to sweeze wonderful audio (music + SFX) out of the barebone Amiga 500.

I think that Chris Huelsbeck was the best thing to grace the Amiga era in terms of music.

While many praise his Turrican 1-3 soundtracks (which are indeed excellent, especially Turrican 3's), I consider his work on Jim Power and Apidya II equally excellent, if not more.

 

[8BiTw0LF]

Not necessarily, the Amiga is an absolute pain in the arse to emulate on some devices. Having it all working in mini form is a god send for me..

I've spent a lot more on worse items in the past.

Do we know anything about how the emulation on the mini will be?

 

[RAIDEN1]

Do we know anything about how the emulation on the mini will be?

It best be good, not exactly everyday we get a new Amiga, that too it being mini....

 

[8BiTw0LF]

It best be good, not exactly everyday we get a new Amiga, that too it being mini....

No hardware specs for the unit?

 

[Bullet Club]

 

[01011001]

I think that Chris Huelsbeck was the best thing to grace the Amiga era in terms of music.

While many praise his Turrican 1-3 soundtracks (which are indeed excellent, especially Turrican 3's), I consider his work on Jim Power and Apidya II equally excellent, if not more.

Hülsbeck did some crazy shit with those sound chips. but his best work imo was not even on the Amiga, but instead on the Mega Drive in Mega Turrican.

 

[nkarafo]

Hülsbeck did some crazy shit with those sound chips. but his best work imo was not even on the Amiga, but instead on the Mega Drive in Mega Turrican.

Mega Turrican is, essentially, Turrican 3 on the Amiga. It uses the exact same soundtrack and it sounds much better on the Amiga.

 

[nkarafo]

Now wait a second, i thought this was supposed to be an Amiga 500 mini? If so, what's Alien Breed 3D doing in the game list? Isn't that an Amiga 1200 game at minimum?

 

[Bullet Club]

Now wait a second, i thought this was supposed to be an Amiga 500 mini? If so, what's Alien Breed 3D doing in the game list? Isn't that an Amiga 1200 game at minimum?

It just looks like an Amiga 500. It can play AGA games.

 

[nkarafo]

It just looks like an Amiga 500. It can play AGA games.

And it's also called an Amiga 500 mini.

Nvm, i guess i'm thinking too much about it.

 

[ZoolNL]

I don't particularly like most of these games myself but they are iconic Amiga games. Defender of the Crown was the game that showed of it's capabilities earlier on, with Shadow of the Beast doing the same thing a bit later.

Superfrog for the Amiga may not be as good as Sonic but it's still one of the best platformers for the Amiga. The standards were different.

Again, i don't think the quality of the games is the most important thing here but whether or not these games are iconic for the system. Pretty sure all the other minis had some mediocre games in the lists just for that.




Well, if adding our own games is the solution then there are a lot of cheaper emulation devices that can do the job.

Which is why i believe the only thing that's worth about these minis is the cool looking replica shells.

The look is a big one, but a mouse and replica controller helps also

 

[ZoolNL]

Now wait a second, i thought this was supposed to be an Amiga 500 mini? If so, what's Alien Breed 3D doing in the game list? Isn't that an Amiga 1200 game at minimum?

It’s more like a mini Amiga Cd32 haha

 

[01011001]

Mega Turrican is, essentially, Turrican 3 on the Amiga. It uses the exact same soundtrack and it sounds much better on the Amiga.

that's where I disagree, I like the Mega Turrican sound way better... and Mega Turrican in general is superior to Turrican 3, which was bogged down by some of the hardware limitations of the Amiga.

also, it was way more of an accomplishment imo to have a game sound as good as it did on the MegaDeive as compared to the Amiga.

 

[Fredrik]

It’s more like a mini Amiga Cd32 haha

Pretty much No joystick, no Amiga 500. And the nostalgia won’t be the same. Are we going to jump in Turrican by pressing up on a D-pad? Or will it be mapped to buttons like console games? Won’t be the same thing. And no functional keyboard either, it’ll either be a messy overlay keyboard you control with a D-pad or it’ll be incredibly limited in use with no keyboard games working properly.

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

Now wait a second, i thought this was supposed to be an Amiga 500 mini? If so, what's Alien Breed 3D doing in the game list? Isn't that an Amiga 1200 game at minimum?

It can run A500, A1200 and CD32 titles.

No doubt someone will hack it so it can run SNES and MD too

 

[01011001]

Pretty much No joystick, no Amiga 500. And the nostalgia won’t be the same. Are we going to jump in Turrican by pressing up on a D-pad? Or will it be mapped to buttons like console games? Won’t be the same thing. And no functional keyboard either, it’ll either be a messy overlay keyboard you control with a D-pad or it’ll be incredibly limited in use with no keyboard games working properly.

Turrican 3 had 2 button support and I think 1 and 2 even supported more than 2 buttons

so even on an actual Amiga you can bind jump to a button if you had a good joystick

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Laser etching.

 

[nkarafo]

that's where I disagree, I like the Mega Turrican sound way better... and Mega Turrican in general is superior to Turrican 3, which was bogged down by some of the hardware limitations of the Amiga.

also, it was way more of an accomplishment imo to have a game sound as good as it did on the MegaDeive as compared to the Amiga.

I agree that Mega Turrican sounds amazing for the Genesis sound hardware. I also agree, it's a better game than the Amiga version. But the soundtrack sounds more powerful in the Amiga version IMO.

There's also Super Turrican on SNES, which is a Turrican 3/Mega Turrican port. It has some levels and music missing but i think it sounds better than both.

 

[RAIDEN1]

I agree that Mega Turrican sounds amazing for the Genesis sound hardware. I also agree, it's a better game than the Amiga version. But the soundtrack sounds more powerful in the Amiga version IMO.

There's also Super Turrican on SNES, which is a Turrican 3/Mega Turrican port. It has some levels and music missing but i think it sounds better than both.

I have Super Turrican, or had it on the SNES Mini, not sure if it is still there, controls take a bit of getting used to as now the main character is a bit of a Bionic Commando... with his grappling hook

 

[nkarafo]

I have Super Turrican, or had it on the SNES Mini, not sure if it is still there, controls take a bit of getting used to as now the main character is a bit of a Bionic Commando... with his grappling hook

Pretty sure the first Super Turrican on SNES doesn't have the grappling hook mechanic.

 

[RAIDEN1]

Pretty sure the first Super Turrican on SNES doesn't have the grappling hook mechanic.

My error I meant this one:

 

[nkarafo]

My error I meant this one:

I never gave that game a chance due to it's generic SNES music.

 

[Agent X]

It should have at least 100 games IMO.

Retro Games (the manufacturer of this system) has to pay other publishers to license their games. Each additional game they bundle raises the cost of the system. If they were to include 100 games, then this system could end up costing $200 or more.

They chose to license just enough games to give the customer a good "starter library", while allowing the ability for a seasoned Amiga enthusiast to easily add his own personal favorites later (no arcane hacking necessary). This is the correct approach, compared to most other similar products where you are stuck with only the built-in games unless you have the knowledge and skill to hack the product.

Now wait a second, i thought this was supposed to be an Amiga 500 mini? If so, what's Alien Breed 3D doing in the game list? Isn't that an Amiga 1200 game at minimum?

It just looks like an Amiga 500. It can play AGA games.

And it's also called an Amiga 500 mini.

Nvm, i guess i'm thinking too much about it.

According to the product page on Retro Games' Web site, TheA500 Mini emulates both the Amiga 500 and Amiga 1200.

Retro Games did something similar with TheC64 (full-size) and TheVIC20. Each of these machines can emulate both the C64 and VIC-20 computers, and they include games designed for both computers.

TheC64 Mini emulates the C64 only.

 

[Fredrik]

Turrican 3 had 2 button support and I think 1 and 2 even supported more than 2 buttons

so even on an actual Amiga you can bind jump to a button if you had a good joystick

I had a good joystick but if I used such a joystick I used the second button for the bomb and roll and the other for fire. Jump is up on all Amiga games I’ve played, and now it’s on a button I guess. Just feels wrong. And it bums me out since I can even use a Tac 2 on Raspberry Pi.

 

[Nickolaidas]

 

[nush]

that's where I disagree, I like the Mega Turrican sound way better... and Mega Turrican in general is superior to Turrican 3,

I had a 50/60Htz Switch on my megadrive, boot the game in 50 to get past the protection then switch up to 60 and the soundtrack is amazing. Shoutout to Megadrive Chaos Engine having the same soundtrack speedboost.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

Found out recently, my old man chucked out our old Amiga 1000 and side car

 

[RAIDEN1]

Well we are getting best of both world then in the Amiga Mini, though you never really saw anything on the A1200 to suggest it was a 32 bit power-house. and then the CD32 came along, with questionable build quality built for the WRONG reasons....and then that was it.....a story of what could and SHOULD have been never realised...

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

Indeed the CD32 was released to try and prevent bankruptcy but it was released in a mixed up rush and pissed the softcos off hence why there weren’t really that many specific CD32 titles.

The AGA chipset was never really used to its capabilities either on the A1200.

 

[Patrick S.]

Laser etching.

I'm a keyboard nerd, but in this instance; who cares? It's not even a functional keyboard xD

 

[Futaleufu]

Well we are getting best of both world then in the Amiga Mini, though you never really saw anything on the A1200 to suggest it was a 32 bit power-house. and then the CD32 came along, with questionable build quality built for the WRONG reasons....and then that was it.....a story of what could and SHOULD have been never realised...

The closest thing to 32 bit games were FPSs like Alien Breed 3D but they ran like crap so instead it made the system look weak.
The game is in the Amiga mini, I hope they chose to emulate something faster when playing this game.

 

[RAIDEN1]

The closest thing to 32 bit games were FPSs like Alien Breed 3D but they ran like crap so instead it made the system look weak.
The game is in the Amiga mini, I hope they chose to emulate something faster when playing this game.

The game looks rubbish compared to its contemporary - Rise of the Triads, (anyone remember that) they needed that big ass hud window in Alien Breed 3d as they knew making the screen any bigger would hit performance issues...I would like to see someone actually running a version of Doom on the most capable Amiga system there was... in 1993...even if the A1200 couldn't do it

 

[Futaleufu]

The game looks rubbish compared to its contemporary - Rise of the Triads, (anyone remember that) they needed that big ass hud window in Alien Breed 3d as they knew making the screen any bigger would hit performance issues...I would like to see someone actually running a version of Doom on the most capable Amiga system there was... in 1993...even if the A1200 couldn't do it

In a 68060 powered Amiga Doom runs similar to a low spec 486 IBM PC (SX/DX-33)

 

[RAIDEN1]

In a 68060 powered Amiga Doom runs similar to a low spec 486 IBM PC (SX/DX-33)

So it could pull it off, but was never done, I wonder why? Even if it was an A4000 exclusive.. Even Wolfenstein never made it over either! When Doom was all the rage in 1993/94 and the 16 bit system had a version....hell even the Atari Jaguar did which didn't exactly fare better than the CD32...

 

[Havoc2049]

So it could pull it off, but was never done, I wonder why? Even if it was an A4000 exclusive.. Even Wolfenstein never made it over either! When Doom was all the rage in 1993/94 and the 16 bit system had a version....hell even the Atari Jaguar did which didn't exactly fare better than the CD32...

The Jaguar is more powerful than the CD32. The CD32 was a consolized Amiga 1200. Plus, Doom came out in December 1993 and Commodore declared bankruptcy a few months later in early 1994. Atari survived until early 1996 and Doom for the Jaguar was developed by id and published by Atari in November 1994.

The Amiga mini will be able to play Wolfenstein 3D!

 

[RAIDEN1]

The Jaguar is more powerful than the CD32. The CD32 was a consolized Amiga 1200. Plus, Doom came out in December 1993 and Commodore declared bankruptcy a few months later in early 1994. Atari survived until early 1996 and Doom for the Jaguar was developed by id and published by Atari in November 1994.

The Amiga mini will be able to play Wolfenstein 3D!

Yeah I know the Jag was more powerful, what I meant was the game wasn't exactly exclusive to platforms that had a somewhat firm standing in the gaming world...ie like the Jag....you didn't exactly see a bee-line of publishers wanting any of the Jag pie (for reason well documented yes..) but it is good to know how things panned out which explains why Doom never came out on any of the Amiga machines..

 

[Bullet Club]

In this exclusive preview let’s boot up (& tear down) TheA500 Mini retro console prototype, see what it can do, if it's good or bad, & how this tiny incarnation of the Commodore Amiga 500 works! Not quite a review.

Hey all, welcome along to another video about the upcoming console The A500 Mini. Today We'll be having a look at the 25 games included with the console and checking out how magazines from th days they were released scored and reviewed them. It's attempt to see if they games included on the console were considered classics of their time. Join me as I find out just how well they scored, and if there are any rotten eggs!

 

[8BiTw0LF]

 

[Bullet Club]

 

[8BiTw0LF]

Performs better than RPi400 and great reviews across the board.

I'll be getting this to scratch childhood Amiga nostalgia.

 

[DinoD]

Could I play "TV Sports Basketball", "ICFTD" and "Wings" on this thing?

 

[Bullet Club]

Could I play "TV Sports Basketball", "ICFTD" and "Wings" on this thing?

Yes. Just put them on a USB.

Metal Jesus played It Came From The Desert, he had to adjust an option to get rid of some flickering but then it worked OK.

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

Not too long to go now, couple of weeks.

 

[Bullet Club]

Here are a few more review/unboxing videos.