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[kyliethicc]

Tom Henderson accurately reported the Sony Project Q remote play device and the wireless earbuds.

His article had the Q’s name, 8“ 1080p LCD, design, and release window. No shot he’s making this shit up. He has accurately reported numerous other bits of Sony info like PS5 firmware updates (detailing when discord integration would be out, etc.) He also has said there is an updated PS5 coming in September with a detachable disc drive.

And so with Henderson reporting there is a PS5 Pro coming late 2024, I now believe him.

PlayStation 5's Hardware Timeline to Holiday 2024

Insider Gaming reveals and discusses a full list of Sony's PlayStation 5 Hardware releasing by the end of Holiday 2024.

insider-gaming.com

He has added that he has the Pro specs but can’t reveal them yet because it would reveal his source to Sony due to only a limited group of devs having Pro dev kits at the moment. So we should see those leak out once enough 3rd parties get dev kits later this year, per his report.



the Q leak




the official reveal

 

[kyliethicc]

 

[tusharngf]

definitely he has insider info. Cant wait for pro

 

[rofif]

Fuck the leaker clouters. Ruining the whole industry

 

[kyliethicc]

Fuck the leaker clouters. Ruining the whole industry

how so?

 

[DenchDeckard]

Oh it's 100% coming..

I'll make a decision once I see some more info.

 

[icerock]

That guy is a douchebag like most people on Twitter chasing for clout but he has a solid track record when it comes to PlayStation hardware.

Thing is, todays showcase was so terribly bad that I am intrigued how they try and sell this Pro model to the public. Best looking games on PS5 came out in 2021 and 2022, what exactly is the point of buying a newer/powerful model?

 

[Pasta la Vista]

Seems that way, ugh, not a fan of this shit. I think it made more sense with PS4 and XB1 because 4k displays became the standard. This thing is going to be fucking massive and the PS5 is already too damn big lol.
I can only assume that this will basically be a digital console with the detachable disc drive as an option.

 

[Neo_game]

He did say about detachable PS5 model coming later this year. Let us see if it also comes true. lol.

Though predicting Pro console for Fall 2024 is not difficult. It will be impressive if he can actualy leak the specs, not some generic 2x RT or 2x GPU power.

 

[Rykan]

No, it is not confirmed.

Here's the situation: Sony has undoubtedly developed and designed a PS5 Pro model. They had to do so in order to be prepared in case Microsoft releases a superior Series console. Microsoft is in a similar position, having a more powerful console designed in case Sony launches a PS5 Pro model. You can't afford to wait and start development when your competitor announces a "pro" system. So yes, in that sense, the PS5 Pro is real. However, that doesn't necessarily mean there are concrete plans to release it if they don't deem it necessary.

The same arguments against a PS5 Pro still hold true: There's no distinctive marketing hook, and any graphical improvement is likely to be relatively minor. It's challenging to find accurate data on the number of PS4 units sold that were PS4 Pros, but from what I could gather, it's as low as 1 in every 5 PS4s. The PS4 Pro had the advantage of releasing in an optimal environment: a new 4K-capable console for consumers with new 4K TVs. The PS5 Pro won't have the same luxury, so its sales will likely be lower than those of the PS4 Pro.

That's not to say that it can't happen: Just that it's not confirmed.

 

[Bonfires Down]

Here's the situation: Sony has undoubtedly developed and designed a PS5 Pro model. They had to do so in order to be prepared in case Microsoft releases a superior Series console. Microsoft is in a similar position, having a more powerful console designed in case Sony launches a PS5 Pro model. You can't afford to wait and start development when your competitor announces a "pro" system. So yes, in that sense, the PS5 Pro is real. However, that doesn't necessarily mean there are concrete plans to release it if they don't deem it necessary.

So you’re saying either company would turn down the opportunity to become the undisputed hardware power leader if the other doesn’t launch a Pro console. Ok.

 

[Moonjt9]

I don’t get it though. There have been zero games that take full advantage of the ps5. Why on Earth would anyone buy a pro? At least with ps4 pro there was a clear reason to upgrade.

 

[Södy]

So he can't say the specs, because it would reveal the source. Has each the dev kit different specs? Otherwise, with just saying he has the specs he already revealed one of the few devs would be his source.

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

I don’t get it though. There have been zero games that take full advantage of the ps5. Why one Earth would anyone buy a pro? At least with ps4 pro there was a clear reason to upgrade.

There is also a second option to this conspiracy theory, what we have now is the actual peak of the PS5's capabilities.

 

[kyliethicc]

I don’t get it though. There have been zero games that take full advantage of the ps5.

name a game in 2016 that took full advantage of the PS4

 

[Xyphie]

People are going to be in for a rough surprise when they realize that the games we're getting now (even when cross-gen) have roughly the visual fidelity you can expect from a PS5-class GPU and there's not going to be a magical moment when the true power of the PS5 is unleashed and we'll get magical games which look 5x better than we're getting now. You want higher frame rates and resolution, raytracing etc? You're going to need faster hardware.

 

[Banjo64]

I mean, yeah he undoubtedly has a legitimate high up source. All the specs right, plus that ridiculous render which has needed up being the actual final design.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Here's the situation: Sony has undoubtedly developed and designed a PS5 Pro model. They had to do so in order to be prepared in case Microsoft releases a superior Series console.

Sony doesn't really develop consoles as a reaction to whatever Microsoft does or ceases to do, which is why they didn't enter a TFLOPs spec war with the PS4 Pro v. OneX, or the PS5 v. SeriesX.

The PS4 Pro was developed as a way to extend the number of years of that generation while preventing further migration from console to PC, like what happened during the PS3 era.
The PS5 Pro won't be any different.

 

[Rykan]

Sony doesn't really develop consoles as a reaction to whatever Microsoft does or ceases to do, which is why they didn't enter a TFLOPs spec war with the PS4 Pro v. OneX, or the PS5 v. SeriesX.

The PS4 Pro was developed as a way to extend the number of years of that generation while preventing further migration from console to PC, like what happened during the PS3 era.
The PS5 Pro won't be any different.

They couldn't do a tflops war, because the PS4 pro was released before the Xbox one X was.

Why wouldn't they have a console ready in case they need to react? They reacted to Xbox Live with PSN, which are now almost identical. They reacted to game pass with Playstation Plus.

Responding and not getting caught off guard is an industry standard.


The PS4 pro was developed to take advantage of 4k tvs that became popular at the time. This mass migration from console to PC that you speak of, is not something that exists nor is it something that is taken into consideration.

At no point has any substantial amount of console players moved from console to pc.That's not something that happened during the PS3 era either. In fact, that era was actually a low point for PC gaming before it er...picked up steam again.

 

[rofif]

how so?

Ruining every plan and surprise just for clout

 

[StueyDuck]

Fuck the leaker clouters. Ruining the whole industry

Hardware leaks are totally fine... gives time to prepare for an unnecessarily hefty price tag.

I only take Umbrage against the fatty doo doo Twitter clout chasing leaks that ruin a big reveal like a week before it happens.

And even then that only happens if you follow and interact with those types

 

[UnNamed]

He has added that he has the Pro specs but can’t reveal them yet because it would reveal his source to Sony due to only a limited group of devs having Pro dev kits at the moment.

Oh, how unfortunate.

Also my aunt at Nintendo has given me the specs for the new system, but I can't reveal it because, you know, sources...

 

[TrebleShot]

I need this now, but only to play whats out now at 4k/60 there isnt much out there announced showing us impressive stuff.

 

[Skifi28]

I don’t get it though. There have been zero games that take full advantage of the ps5. Why one Earth would anyone buy a pro? At least with ps4 pro there was a clear reason to upgrade.

The future in amazing looking games is Ray Tracing, something the current RDNA2 GPUs suck at. There is no secret sauce for that, unless you are fine with future games being 1080p at 30fps. I'll take the pro, thank you very much.

 

[kyliethicc]

Ruining every plan and surprise just for clout

isn’t it useful to know about hardware earlier? can plan for future purchases

 

[Skifi28]

name a game in 2016 that took full advantage of the PS4

All games took full advantage of the PS4, it's not like they left 50% of the GPU idling back in 2016. What you're probably asking is why games kept looking better and better. That had little to do with the actual PS4 hardware and was mostly down to developers becoming more proficient using their engines as well as advanced rasterization techniques. The thing is, not much has changed in that space since then, which is why you see 2020 launch games still being some of the best looking on the platform three years later which is unprecedented. There is no "taking full advantage of the PS5". It's already being used to the fullest. There will be upgrades like always, but incremental. A true generational leap would be full Ray Tracing which the current hardware just can't do. We need a pro model with over twice the RT performance plus built-in upscaling techniques for that.

 

[mrmustard]

I said it before, there is 100% a PS5 Pro, just for the reason that MS could make a Series X Pro (and vice versa). The only chance we won't see midgen upgrades is that the two made a deal and i have a feeling their relation is not that good lately.

 

[amigastar]

I'm curious if the PS5 Pro will be able to beat a 4090 in terms of graphics power.

 

[Optimus Lime]

I'm curious if the PS5 Pro will be able to beat a 4090 in terms of graphics power.

Sure, it'll actually have the power of a 6090 and will shit rainbows if you pay for the top tier of PS+.

 

[majorgamer10]

I'm curious if the PS5 Pro will be able to beat a 4090 in terms of graphics power.

The pricing would be astronomical as a result...

 

[Insane Metal]

October probably. Source: none.

 

[Skifi28]

I'm curious if the PS5 Pro will be able to beat a 4090 in terms of graphics power.

It can't, that's a 450 watt 1600 dollar gpu. You can't fit that into a cheap 200 watt apu by late 2024, assuming AMD even has anything that can compete with a 4090 by then.

 

[Guerilla Munch]

the early adopter cope is palpable

 

[anothertech]

Day one bitches

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Tom Henderson accurately reported the Sony Project Q remote play device and the wireless earbuds.

His article had the Q’s name, 8“ 1080p LCD, design, and release window. No shot he’s making this shit up. He has accurately reported numerous other bits of Sony info like PS5 firmware updates (detailing when discord integration would be out, etc.) He also has said there is an updated PS5 coming in September with a detachable disc drive.

And so with Henderson reporting there is a PS5 Pro coming late 2024, I now believe him.

PlayStation 5's Hardware Timeline to Holiday 2024

Insider Gaming reveals and discusses a full list of Sony's PlayStation 5 Hardware releasing by the end of Holiday 2024.

insider-gaming.com

He has added that he has the Pro specs but can’t reveal them yet because it would reveal his source to Sony due to only a limited group of devs having Pro dev kits at the moment. So we should see those leak out once enough 3rd parties get dev kits later this year, per his report.



the Q leak




the official reveal

Project Q is a fcking monster... too ugly

 

[StereoVsn]

Sure, it'll actually have the power of a 6090 and will shit rainbows if you pay for the top tier of PS+.

And Jim Ryan Senpai will finally notice you!

People need to get a damn grip on themselves. 4090, lol, how about we try with 4070 instead/Rx 7800.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

It’s not confirmed until Sony officially announces it. The status right now is it’s heavily-rumored.

 

[Knightime_X]

Really wish these companies would be more transparent about hardware releases.
Announce the pro along side the base model. Even if years away from release.

Stop with this shaddy bs to get you to buy the same thing twice.

 

[Hendrick's]

I don't see this coming until next year.

 

[Skifi28]

Really wish these companies would be more transparent about hardware releases.
Announce the pro along side the base model. Even if years away from release.

Stop with this shaddy bs to get you to buy the same thing twice.

There's nothing shady about it. Hardware that releases 4 years later might not even be in the planning stages at that point. It's like expecting nvidia to announce the 7090 when releasing the 4090, it's silly.

 

[Cashon]

I don't see this coming until next year.

That's capitalism. I don't like it either, but until we stop supporting a system that legally encourages greed, this is how it will be.

 

[Knightime_X]

There's nothing shady about it. Hardware that releases 4 years later might not even be in the planning stages at that point. It's like expecting nvidia to announce the 7090 when releasing the 4090, it's silly.

But you KNOW with every series there will be a ti variant.
Ie 4080 and 4080 ti. Etc.

Just do the same with consoles and be consistent.
Ps6 7 8 9 ... all with a pro model.

 

[Jigsaah]

No shot this sells out day 1. I'm in.

 

[Skifi28]

But you KNOW with every series there will be a ti variant.
Ie 4080 and 4080 ti. Etc.

Just do the same with consoles and be consistent.
Ps6 7 8 9 ... all with a pro model.

You are comparing apples to watermelons.

 

[Golgo 13]

I'm curious if the PS5 Pro will be able to beat a 4090 in terms of graphics power.

This is hilarious. The rumored specs currently are around 1.5 times the power of a PS5. In other words, nowhere near a 4090.

Doesn’t the PS5 essentially have what amounts to the equivalent of a 2060 to begin with?

 

[Azelover]

I don't understand so many people's love of horsepower at this time. It's not the 90's anymore. It takes a huge leap to even notice the smallest graphical improvement. And yet it seems like the further we go into this sort graphical inertia, the more obsessed people get.

 

[Hendrick's]

That's capitalism. I don't like it either, but until we stop supporting a system that legally encourages greed, this is how it will be.

I just think they would want a game to release to show off the new system. Spider-Man would have made a sense, but that's got a standard special edition console coming out this fall. I just don't see how they just drop this the next month. Seems more likely they will wait until 2025 when one of their other big titles drop.

 

[Justin9mm]

My big question is that, if there is a Pro releasing, will the premium cost still come with a disc drive or will you still have to buy the detachable disc drive. I'm also thinking they are going to be smarter with pricing considering demand and charge a lot more for the Pro. I wouldn't be surprised if it's like $1000+ AUD here in Australia, that equates to about $700 USD.

 

[amigastar]

This is hilarious. The rumored specs currently are around 1.5 times the power of a PS5. In other words, nowhere near a 4090.

Doesn’t the PS5 essentially have what amounts to the equivalent of a 2060 to begin with?

No, i'm pretty sure it was a 2070.

 

[Gamerguy84]

First time I've ever dipped in the rumor poop but yes. With Tom saying it I would say it's definitely happening. The guy has dropped a lot of truth bombs.