Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Who the fuck played Shadowman on the N64
What a shit version. Dreamcast was where it was at
And screw this topic. Shadowman was fucking brilliant.
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Shadow Man Remastered made me realize how some of these remasters are better left in the past
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What a shit version. Dreamcast was where it was at
And screw this topic. Shadowman was fucking brilliant.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
I'll clarify....Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain on the PS1......not the PS2 reboot.Blood Omen is the GOAT
nkarafo
Member
It's the opposite for me. These remasters make it possible for the better games from the past to be played with more sane controls and improved visuals.
IMO, Shadowman is still a better 3rd person adventure game than 95% of any modern equivalent. At least it wasn't made "for a wider audience" and it doesn't hold my hand like i'm a child.
IMO, Shadowman is still a better 3rd person adventure game than 95% of any modern equivalent. At least it wasn't made "for a wider audience" and it doesn't hold my hand like i'm a child.
Doom85
Member
Tell’em Keb
Member
I played and beat Shadowman on both N64 and DC back in the day when they released. Loved both versions. Pined for this remaster and snatched it up day 1. Love it, too. For me it isn’t nostalgia, I genuinely believe it to be a fantastic game. This game moves me in mysterious ways (and brother, I mean it really does move me).
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Morrie’s wig shop
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Shadowman back in the day was pretty ho-hum and the ones who rave about it today were most likely in the 5-10 year old range when they played the game on its initial release.
And your absolutely right, a lot of games need to stay in the past…… actually the majority of old games don’t need remasters.
And your absolutely right, a lot of games need to stay in the past…… actually the majority of old games don’t need remasters.
Mr Hyde
Member
Of course. The original is the best one in the franchise. No other game managed to top it. Did you know GoG has released a PC port of it? No more annoying load times. There is even an unofficial patch that cleans up the cut scenes with higher res and adds subtitles to the characters dialogue. Among many other improvements. By far the best version out there.
Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
We're getting a new Shadowman for 'modern audiences '
nkarafo
Member
The majority of pre-6th gen games need remasters because most of them can benefit from improved controls. Even though the dual analog controller tech appeared during the 5th gen, it didn't really become the standard like it is now until the 6th gen took over. So 5th gen games like Shadowman is very awkward to play on any platform nowadays even if you use third party mappers on PC. The remaster plays perfectly though.
While i would also prefer a remake over a remaster, i don't trust any major western developer anymore to pull it off. Most likely they would make it worse in every single way except graphics and controls because it would be made for a "modern audience" meaning more hand holding, more cinematics that take themselves too seriously, less interactivity/exploration, a lot of censorship, modern day politics, etc. So other than graphics and controls, everything else would be most likely worse.
With remasters you at least know the developers are somewhat forced to respect the original direction and intentions. Because a remaster is not supposed to have too many artistic changes and the ones that do get heavily criticized for it. Plus, i'm not sure if Nightdive studio's output counts as "quick and dirty". These are some of the best remasters ever made.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Shadow Man was and always will be a masterpiece. It was 3D Metroidvania before that was ever a thing, and fuck the remaster was more than needed. It allowed them to finish the game, which was originally released missing two big areas that are ultra important to the dark storyline.
I don't care if the gameplay's aged when modern games are fucking CoD Warnuke 34 Zombie attack on Pluto.
I don't care if the gameplay's aged when modern games are fucking CoD Warnuke 34 Zombie attack on Pluto.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
havoc00
Member
I like to zoom zoom
Krathoon
Member
Did that finally come out? That was a very 90s game.
The Pleasure
Member
The playstation 1 version was far worse than the n64 version.Who the fuck played Shadowman on the N64
What a shit version. Dreamcast was where it was at
And screw this topic. Shadowman was fucking brilliant.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
You're not wrong there
I still had to play it though, just to see back then. I never made it to Nettie in the first level.. it was too much
The Pleasure
Member
You're not wrong there
I still had to play it though, just to see back then. I never made it to Nettie in the first level.. it was too much
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
You're not wrong there
I still had to play it though, just to see back then. I never made it to Nettie in the first level.. it was too much
C'mon man the 64 version was fine. Not everybody was stupid enough to buy a Dreamcast.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
That machine was a BEAST! Toy Commander was top tier gaming
Physiognomonics
Member
I loved the N64 version. But I actually 100% the game on the much better Dreamcast version.Who the fuck played Shadowman on the N64
What a shit version. Dreamcast was where it was at
And screw this topic. Shadowman was fucking brilliant.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
You know where it's at
Dreamcast was the best version till Nightdive took the reigns.
We just don't get these vast dark narrative games much anymore. And that's crap.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
This clearly wasn't a quick and dirty remaster tho. The recent mgs remasters were fir example.
Doczu
Member
Soul Reaver 1 was a port of the PSX version, so the best way to play that game is emulating the dreamcast port.
Can't say for sure about SR2, but i think thd PS2 was also the prefered version.
I dunno man, I’ve not played the remaster, but have seen the screenshots, and it looks pretty much the same as I remember, aside from upscale textures
FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
Not with the expansion pack, it was brilliant with that.Who the fuck played Shadowman on the N64
What a shit version. Dreamcast was where it was at
And screw this topic. Shadowman was fucking brilliant.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
I only have the Steam deck and I couldn't het GOG to run on it.
Oh man, I haven’t thought of that game in over 20 years! Me and my buddies used to smoke dope and play split-screen Toy Commander deathmatch (in between bouts of Soul Calibur, of course). Good times!That machine was a BEAST! Toy Commander was top tier gaming
Why bother commenting if you’ve only seen screenshots? LMAO!
Because I enjoyed the game when I was a teen, so have an interest in it, and would have 100% played an actual remake (and agree with the OP’s position on it, they either needed to do it properly or not at all).
You don’t need to play it to see from comparison images that they’ve done very little to it, and it looks (and will play) barely any different to how it looked 25ish years ago. Games have changed a LOT since then, and very very few from those days hold up well mechanically, or visually, particularly those pretty early 3d games.
System shock on the other hand looks for more substantive, so I’ll be buying at some point for sure.
coffinbirth
Member
I'd absolutely love a remaster/remake/sequel/straight dirty port to that sumnabitch!That machine was a BEAST! Toy Commander was top tier gaming
Re-Volt also. I constantly bug NightDive about it, haha.