StarCreator
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Hasn't the region lock on the 3ds been hacked as well?
Uhh, no?
Hasn't the region lock on the 3ds been hacked as well?
Please, whatever the second place bidder in that auction was, I'm positive they were a better choice than sega.What exactly do you want from them? If Sega didn't save Atlus, SMT really WOULD be dead. Is that what you wanted?
Sega saving the company gives the franchise more than a fighting chance, and the amount they paid for it shows they have confidence in how much value the brand has.
Uhh, no?
I modded my PS2 back in the day and hacked my Wii. P4As region lock could be overcome with a ps3 3.55 firmware hack, couldn't it? Hasn't the region lock on the 3ds been hacked as well? Barring that, and it was clear they'd never be released, I'd grab foreign systems for cheap. So yeah, it's doable. Way more doable than learning an incredibly difficult language.
Please, whatever the second place bidder in that auction was, I'm positive they were a better choice than sega.
Think a Goldman Sachs group was in the running, and actually had a higher bid but I guess they lost interest. Yeah, others would've bought Atlus undoubtedly, the question is who'd buy them and treat them well, and it is possible Sega's one of the best choices, especially within the game industry.Please, whatever the second place bidder in that auction was, I'm positive they were a better choice than sega.
Importing=/=hacking to get around the region lock and you know it
LOL? Namco Bandai, SquareEnix, or Capcom WOULD have been better, IMO, to varying degrees. .
LOL? Namco Bandai, SquareEnix, or Capcom WOULD have been better, IMO, to varying degrees. How's Sega going to localize Atlus' games when they can't even localize their own? At least those companies tend to localize their games. With Sega, if it doesn't say Sonic on the box or it isn't some crappy licensed game they just aren't interested. Where is Yakuza 5? Phantasy Star Online 2?
As far as "what's best for Atlus" is concerned....don't kid yourself. They are effectively dead now. The IPs will be absorbed by Sega who will farm them out and release them in the east where they will stay.
What's the difference? If I'm unable to do one, then I'll do the necessary steps for the rest. If Im able to actually play it, that is.
LOL? Namco Bandai, SquareEnix, or Capcom WOULD have been better, IMO, to varying degrees. How's Sega going to localize Atlus' games when they can't even localize their own? At least those companies tend to localize their games. With Sega, if it doesn't say Sonic on the box or it isn't some crappy licensed game they just aren't interested. Where is Yakuza 5? Phantasy Star Online 2?
As far as "what's best for Atlus" is concerned....don't kid yourself. They are effectively dead now. The IPs will be absorbed by Sega who will farm them out and release them in the east where they will stay.
It would be nice if Sega and Atlus were to really help each other out with their own weaknesses (and by proxy keep Atlus USA), but I suspect that statement may have more to do with Atlus filling a niche Sega had trouble with and thus creating a more robust portfolio.
Well, let's see...
One involves paying more money for a copy of the game, putting it in your video game machine, then playing it.
One involves potentially large amounts of fucking about with said video game machine.
What do you think people would prefer? And this is coming from someone who -loves- to tinker and mess with stuff for this purpose.
It's nice that you want to devote the time/money/effort to this, but a large amount of people don't want to. So toss that thought out of your head because it's not logical for 95% of the potential audience.
You forgot to say you were an expert in Japanese culture before making this post
Breaking the region lock on a Wii takes less than 5 mins from start to finish. 3DS region lock solution is to spend £200 importing another handheld. They are not even remotely comparable.Well, to be fair, importing Xenoblade EU into the US involved a similar amount of effort breaking the region lock. Or did it? I'm not sure what you have to do to break the Wii's region lock.
.The butthurt in this thread is over 9000.
if this is the first step of Sega returning to console making and former glories, just imagine Persona exlusive to Sega console aw yis, then i'm ok with that, but sammy only cares about pachinkos, so its not going to happen.
So basically SEGA will help Atlus with mainstream stuff while Atlus helps SEGA with niche stuff?
This sounds pretty good IMO. For both companies.
LOL? Namco Bandai, SquareEnix, or Capcom WOULD have been better, IMO, to varying degrees.
I personally would have loved to see Gungho grab em
They have the resources and the global philosophy that falls in line with what we love about Atlus USA
Dude, you may be the only person alive who thinks the idea that Square and Capcom are less worthless than Sega is laughable, lol.
Jesus christ, the reason we're mad at those companies is they keep messing up games we care about.
Sega finished messing up their franchises ten years ago, we've stopped complaining because terrible has come to be what is expected from them.
Square Enix ALSO has a spotty localization history as of late and is probably more poised to see Atlus USA as useless and to be scrapped. Not sure what to say on Capcom, similar would probably happen there though. In the end it IS possible that SE and Capcom are better companies, yet WAY worse choices for an acquisition.Dude, you may be the only person alive who thinks the idea that Square and Capcom are less worthless than Sega is laughable, lol.
Jesus christ, the reason we're mad at those companies is they keep messing up games we care about.
Sega finished messing up their franchises ten years ago, we've stopped complaining because terrible has come to be what is expected from them.
I personally would have loved to see Gungho grab em
They have the resources and the global philosophy that falls in line with what we love about Atlus USA
I'm not following the comparisons to previous Sega acquisitions. Aren't Sega of Japan and Sega of America doing their own thing?
I fail to see how the odds are that we'll still get the same level of localizations for Atlus games we get right now, since I doubt Sega will keep a US branch solely for a subsidiary.
When Atlus USA is gone, the localization of Atlus games will go through Sega's infrastructure and will probably be subject to their interests. What was a successful US release for Atlus might not be for Sega.
I'm not too sure about the acquisition; but for the west, I hope we get more of these
Oh god, please tell me you are kidding.LOL? Namco Bandai, SquareEnix, or Capcom WOULD have been better, IMO, to varying degrees. How's Sega going to localize Atlus' games when they can't even localize their own? At least those companies tend to localize their games. With Sega, if it doesn't say Sonic on the box or it isn't some crappy licensed game they just aren't interested. Where is Yakuza 5? Phantasy Star Online 2?
As far as "what's best for Atlus" is concerned....don't kid yourself. They are effectively dead now. The IPs will be absorbed by Sega who will farm them out and release them in the east where they will stay.
I think it's less they're conciously avoiding PSO2 and more trying to get it localized and figure out just HOW to sell it here. FFXIV SE was on all cylinders (well, comparatively) because FF is a big deal, FFXI is their most profitable FF, they're a bigger company, and they have experience running this stuff. Sega has some NA/EU F2P games, but PSO2 may draw a larger crowd albeit not a FFXIV size crowd, and as noted there's probably quite a bit of text to localize. ANd they may even want to actually modify some aspects to better suit non-Japanese like the damn chat system.I think Sega was the best case scenario. Stable company with a massive bankroll who has good working relationships with Nintendo, Sony, MS, and Valve. People overreacting because of PSO2 is dumb. It's a text heavy F2P game, and they probably figured it wouldn't make any money. At the end of the day it's a business and Atlus is operating in the black, I doubt much will change except they now have a parent company with better distribution and more money for promo.
That statement by Atlus at least mentioned "enhancing Atlus as a brand", this means Atlus will still exist as a separate brand under Sega.
Sega of America was such a hot mess that they spent 2009-2012 under Sega Europe's leadership. I'd put better odds on Atlus USA taking over their publishing duties and SoA being downsized to brand management than I would on Atlus USA being shuttered.
I am a PC/Nintendo guy too. The problem is that there console branch that focuses on the PS3/360 has a horrible habit of not localizing games. Atlus is a developer of niche games and publisher that publishes any quality product they can get their hands on no matter how unmarketable it may seem.As a PC/Nintendo sort of guy, I am puzzled at the Sega hate.
Sega of America was such a hot mess that they spent 2009-2012 under Sega Europe's leadership. I'd put better odds on Atlus USA taking over their publishing duties and SoA being downsized to brand management than I would on Atlus USA being shuttered.
That actually makes sense. Granted, I'm not sure the western game choices are much better, but they're always lower profile and some really ARE good games or at least ones with merit such as Divinity II, ACE Team games, Sherlock Holmes, and likely Tex Murphy. It'll still suck for what's there for SoA if it just ended up an inversion of our fears (SoA dies, Atlus USA becomes new SoA) but I guess that's just a minor case of "be careful what you wish for."Sega of America was such a hot mess that they spent 2009-2012 under Sega Europe's leadership. I'd put better odds on Atlus USA taking over their publishing duties and SoA being downsized to brand management than I would on Atlus USA being shuttered.
True, just downsizing SoA would make more sense, focus them on what they KNOW what to do, have everything smaller go through Atlus instead. Which would probably mean something like Hatsune Miku they'd have to deal with, though that's small enough that they'd probably handle it in Japan alone if need be.The problem with that is that I'm not sure Atlus USA actually has real experience with working on bigger-budget localization projects like the next AAA Sonic game or whatever
Oh god, please tell me you are kidding.
Sega hasn't been localizing Yakuza 5 because the other Yakuza games bombed. You cannot say the same for Atlus games since they tend to be profitable (helps that they aren't high budgeted games). Atlus will be fine, they sell well enough for more localizations. They have enough support from the west to keep the franchises going.
Capcom would not be a better choice, don't kid yourself. Enjoy your butchered franchises if that's what you really want.
I'd love to know how Square Enix is a "better" choice than Sega. And as for Namco? F2P tests. As far as I'm concerned, out of the majority of big Japanese game developers, Sega is one of the few who's actually improving lately.
At least you didn't name Konami, because good lord... The results would be completely disastrous.
Dude, you may be the only person alive who thinks the idea that Square and Capcom are less worthless than Sega is laughable, lol.
Jesus christ, the reason we're mad at those companies is they keep messing up games we care about.
Sega finished messing up their franchises ten years ago, we've stopped complaining because terrible has come to be what is expected from them.
Yakuza bombed relative to Sega.
Atlus games have been profitable relative to Atlus.
I don't know how much the Yakuza games sold, but Atlus USA was profitable when most of their catalog sold under 50k.
A game selling less than 50k for Sega is a massive bomb.
No, I'm pretty sure a lot of people here agree that Capcom and SE would be far worse choices to buy Atlus than Sega. Have you even been paying attention to what those companies have been doing lately?
What is that photo for?
I don't get it.
No, the Yakuza games flat out bombed.
In the US, Persona 4 Golden sold more than the last three Yakuza games combined.
No, the Yakuza games flat out bombed.
In the US, Persona 4 Golden sold more than the last three Yakuza games combined.