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Police officer injured in deadly ambush sues Black Lives Matter leaders
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Earthstrike
Member
Yeah, but how is that enforced. I mean, there is quite clearly an implicit tone of violent advocacy in the conservative rhetoric of the past four decades. Clearly, whatever is ruled here will have to be applied to everyone equally.
That's obviously what they're going for but I haven't seen any comments from any national BLM leaders that would meet the (stringent) requirements for prosecution. I feel bad for the guy for being so grievously injured, but he's barking up the wrong tree and getting taken for a ride by some law firm... especially since the perp was a combat veteran who fell in with the sovereign citizen movement. I haven't seen any overlap between that and BLM (and why would there be when they are diametrically opposed?)
Basically unless you say "hey, we should kill those people right now" it's probably protected (at least federally.) It has to be a specific and targeted and immediate threat or advocation of violence.
Black Republican
Member
we will personally speak to every concerned white american in their homes, Van Jones style!
Police academies here often purposely recruit people with minimal education, lower IQ, and aggressive tendencies. They meant it to be this way.
Or they are ex-military with a whole other nest of issues
The irony of this going on while those NRA ads play. This country is disgusting.
DeRay's Crooked Media podcast is amazing btw.
DeRay's Crooked Media podcast is amazing btw.
lol @ concern trolling on what's "productive" as far as discourse goes. Because having a veneer of niceness towards oppressive institutions is what liberates people right? That's how the slaves got free.
"maybe if you're nicer to your abusive husband, he'll stop beating the shit out of you."
fuck outta here
"maybe if you're nicer to your abusive husband, he'll stop beating the shit out of you."
fuck outta here
Yaphett Kotto
Member
What about the militia groups and lonewolves that are anti-government, though.
My sister had an absolutely insane aggressive stalker years ago here, he was an NYPD cop who was ex-military. Guy was deeply unstable.
archreaper93
Member
Not quite sure why this is a cause for "fuck the police".
Could someone explain it to me?
Is it that police are trying to blame BLM leaders for when the protests get violent?
Could someone explain it to me?
Is it that police are trying to blame BLM leaders for when the protests get violent?
Aside from telling folks to be nicer to people oppressing them, what are you doin to "move us forward"?
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Yeah, this cop probably really loves BLM and it's just his family. You know what they say about shit family members?
What's there to explain? The lawsuit specifically blames BLM members for an unrelated shooting. It's a law officer on the front line of systemic raciscm, using the courts to attack minorities when the other elements of the racist system couldn't destroy them.
OG Shaka Zulu
Member
Wasn't this shooter a Sovereign Citizen? Not a peep from the media about that. It was always "Blame BLM!".
The two vigilante cop killers were also war vets but nope, not a single conversation about vet mental healthcare. This country is so fucked.
The two vigilante cop killers were also war vets but nope, not a single conversation about vet mental healthcare. This country is so fucked.
I feel anyone who needs to have this explained to them aren't worth engaging.
Yeah I thought about responding to that post myself but just chose not to reply.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
In retrospect... Yeah. But I've never been able to keep all the bullshit together on this site.
But I'm feeling energetic so I'll waste a post or two.
But I'm feeling energetic so I'll waste a post or two.
Darryl M R
Member
So we can start suing Fox and the NRA?
You know perfectly well what you're doing. I'm not going to do this dance when the OP says otherwise.
America
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
He must have read that Boston Globe op-ed too
Hey, leave the Smurfs and Na'vi out of this.
soul creator
Member
I always laugh at the right-wing white people thinking Deray is some sort of hardcore leftist revolutionary or something.
Angelus Errare
Banned
If black people got a dollar for every time the whole "respect" angle was brought up, I'd argue we'd be the wealthiest ethnic group in the country.
This next part isn't directly at you personally, but white folks since the inception of this country always demand black folks "respect" them/organizations/positions of power and once this respect has been met THEN progress can begin. Shits annoying as hell, if folks lectured these organizations and governmental agencies half as much as they lectured black folks we'd be a much more progressive country. But hey, can't upset that false sense of peace.
Abstrusity
Member
I s aw something about this that's routinely posted, but it's like, black folks ask that we respect them as people, while the problem white folks demand that we respect them as an authority, then they say, "if you won't respect me as an authority, I won't respect you as people." That's where the 'respect' angle is. I'm inclined to agree. They don't want 'respect,' they want you to sit down and shut up.
Fuck letting that happen tbh.
Yes
archreaper93
Member
I was honestly afraid of responses like this. Yes, I know about the "hurr durr I'm just asking questions" brigade. I'm not one of them. Though I doubt I'll convince you of this, I genuinely don't understand a lot of this stuff and genuinely want to.
Oh, unrelated? I didn't catch that part.
So, this officer who was injured in a police shooting is claiming BLM leaders influenced the shooter despite there being no proof of anything of the sort. That about sum it up?
Shit needs to be trotted out anytime some jackass plays the MLK card to dismiss protest. Disgusting.
Metalingus5150
Member
Man, it's scary how similar the messages of today are to this.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
I don't even remember hearing about this shooting, but reading the entire thing I just can't comprehend it all. Everyday there is something incredibly shocking in that it continues to re-enforce ideas that I've held for a long time after realizing when I was younger that nothing made sense, when people would generalize black people, brown people, and in general all minorities. I've had teachers tell me racism is dead because it ended during the civil war and or the civil rights movement era.
I mean for fucks sakes. This entire law suit feels unreal.
Jesus, God Almighty reading those letters.
We're fucked. We're so fucked.
I mean for fucks sakes. This entire law suit feels unreal.
Jesus, God Almighty reading those letters.
We're fucked. We're so fucked.
Galactic Barret
Member
Disclaimer up front: I'm not happy about what I'm about to say.
I'll take any bet available that the Cop wins his lawsuit. Forget about the right to assemble and protest, hes a cop, these are five black men. If a man can get shot on video, in front of his daughter, and the perpetrator can get away with it simply because he is a cop, Blue Lives can win any case in front of any jury that doesn't feature/majority POC.
I have no faith in the system, if that isn't already clear.
I'll take any bet available that the Cop wins his lawsuit. Forget about the right to assemble and protest, hes a cop, these are five black men. If a man can get shot on video, in front of his daughter, and the perpetrator can get away with it simply because he is a cop, Blue Lives can win any case in front of any jury that doesn't feature/majority POC.
I have no faith in the system, if that isn't already clear.
This is the most disgusting thread I have seen on GAF that has been allowed to live this long. The officer mentioned was shot three times. In the head, shoulder and stomach and was left with brain damage.
It is not even known if he filed the lawsuit or family or a police union filed the suite. But yeah fuck him and fuck the police. Many of you do not even bother to read the story, and just read the idea that someone is suing BLM and they must be an ass hole. I guess he was not thinking straight when he came out of his coma.
I really do not want to be a part of this community anymore if this sort of garbage is allowed. And to the credit of the community, not everyone in this thread is a complete cunt. But several of you are dispicable.
It is not even known if he filed the lawsuit or family or a police union filed the suite. But yeah fuck him and fuck the police. Many of you do not even bother to read the story, and just read the idea that someone is suing BLM and they must be an ass hole. I guess he was not thinking straight when he came out of his coma.
I really do not want to be a part of this community anymore if this sort of garbage is allowed. And to the credit of the community, not everyone in this thread is a complete cunt. But several of you are dispicable.
You should PM a mod.
The thread exists. I am not going to narc and say this message board should be in line with what I feel it should be. But unless attitudes change then this is no longer a place after ten years that I wish to be a part of. Which may mean nothing to anyone. But I have made attempts to be a bit nicer, and a bIt more understanding. But this sort of shit where people are not reading the articles that are linked by the op, and the general hatred shown becomes the norm, this is no longer a fun place to hang. I just like to imagine though that the mods have a hard job, and it is easy for them to miss a thread from time to time.
But if the sort of negativity, hatred, and willfully ignorance is the new norm, then this is no longer a place I want to participate. And I am sure many would say good riddance.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Then why bother complaining? You could help make their hard job easier by directing them to the people whose posts you dislike and want gone so do it.
excelsiorlef
Member
This is a story about innocent black men getting sued, possibly with some sort of police involvement, and blamed for violence because they are standing up for their rights...
Don't moralize about hatred and ignore the core of it at the heart of this story.
Mods are not all knowing all seeing beings. If there is an issue with a thread tor member they tell us to PM.
Whatever issue you have won't be addressed if you just post it in a random thread.
If you think things are bad here calling people cunts isn't going to fix it.
Fwiw I read the piece, and I'm familiar with happened. It's still fuck the police.
*shrugs
While I agree with what you're saying in terms of the clear and factual problem with police in that there is systemic racism and an issue with acting above the law, people jumped into the thread to say, "This officer is trash." The suit was field on his behalf.
And the OP specifically made sure to take this out of his quote when he was pasting the article:
The poster above needs to relax a little but people were really quick to attack the brain damaged police officer who was in a vegetative state for 6 months.
This suit is wrong. The person who filed it is a bad person. But we don't even know if it was a fellow officer or the family of this officer.
Not defending the lawsuit. I am condemning the fuck that guy who got shot in the head posts. I do not know to what level the accused actually motivated the crime, nor do I know exactly what they said. Without knowing the exact details I am not condemning the BLM members. I am simply attacking the people who are telling this person who got a bullet in their head to fuck off as being human trash.
I think some of the comments in this thread are bit aggressive towards someone who got shot multiple times and now suffers brain damage because of a murderous cunt bag. He's obviously suing the wrong people, but I doubt most would be acting rational in his position either. BLM isn't an organization that promotes violence, so I don't see how this would stand in court
Why would you even consider condemning BLM members in regards to this shooting?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That still fundamentally an extremely flawed view point the about the reason why people reacting in this thread this way. Regardless of what happened in that rally BLM is decentralised movement protesting police aggression. To sue the entire organisation regardless of what happened there is malicious act against the cause there's no other way to interepret that.
The attacks on the guy personally considering his state are completely uncalled for especially considering the state and what he's lost (and whether or not he even made the suit) but lets not pretend like this is some lets wait for the facts to come out to reveal the truth scenario. Regardless of what the facts are this is an awful suit. You could personally set up a black lives matter chapter in your town with no contact with any other chapters and this suit would target you.