Lucie Goosey
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This would be my bet as well. Well said.
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PlayStation will release 6 Live Service games by March 2025. How many will be successful?
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This would be my bet as well. Well said.
StealthGoblin
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What people need to remember that success is relative. GT7 and MLB's successes have been great but they've been understated and bring in steady income.
I think they'll all be successful but in their own way. If people are expecting a Fortnite out of these then they have their head in the clouds - Sony doesn't expect that.
TLOU Online for example will be a platform. That investment is long term and multiplatform.
I think they'll all be successful but in their own way. If people are expecting a Fortnite out of these then they have their head in the clouds - Sony doesn't expect that.
TLOU Online for example will be a platform. That investment is long term and multiplatform.
Killjoy-NL
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Majormaxxx
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None in my house!
Bernardougf
Gold Member
really dont care, but if the first party SP output suffers from this shift in priorities, as it looks is already suffering, by 26 Im out.. I was 100% sure that I would buy the PRO next year, not matter the cost, but now ? not so much ..xbox one generation killed xbox for me ... and for the looks of it ps5 will be my last ps console generation if they dont prove me wrong until the ps6 launchs .... right now Im considering to go back to PC for the first time since the ps3. Great job sony 
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.It depends on what is intended as successful.
If it means creating the new Fortnite well...that's really unlikely unless they're really lucky with some gameplay concept that becomes viral.
If it means to create great multiplayer games with their dedicated communities and new contents provided through a gaas model then yes, I don't see many issues. They already have successful examples like GT7 and MLB.
If it means creating the new Fortnite well...that's really unlikely unless they're really lucky with some gameplay concept that becomes viral.
If it means to create great multiplayer games with their dedicated communities and new contents provided through a gaas model then yes, I don't see many issues. They already have successful examples like GT7 and MLB.
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Lucifers Beard
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I imagine Helldivers 2 will be the only successful one and it actually looks alright. Foamstars is a shameless free to play rip off of a better game and I've no idea what the others are... Nor do I care to be honest.
Mibu no ookami
Member
So difficult to define success when lots of different games have different revenue streams.
MLB The Show is almost certainly successful and I do believe Sony considers it a live-service game, but at the same time, they don't seem to officially consider GT7 a live-service game.
So how are we defining what is actually live-service and what is actually successful?
MLB The Show is almost certainly successful and I do believe Sony considers it a live-service game, but at the same time, they don't seem to officially consider GT7 a live-service game.
So how are we defining what is actually live-service and what is actually successful?
The Cockatrice
Member
Depends on their names. Something new? Most likely will fail. Something with a familiar name or based on a franchise? Will prolly do decent for a while.
mrmustard
Banned
I think Marathon could do well as a new ip, because you already have the Destiny community who most likely will try it.
The Cockatrice
Member
I'd give it 50/50. Destiny players have not been satisfied in ages.
Holammer
Member
If only one of the games in development is a CS/LOL/Fortnite SSR level hit, it'll pay for dozens of projects.
With all the titles in the pipeline? I think they have have a solid chance for two good hits. Sony has a good brand and a captive audience on the consoles.
If they are smart they makes the games solo friendly to a point, like Digital Extremes did with Warframe. So anti-social curmudgeons like myself can enjoy it.
With all the titles in the pipeline? I think they have have a solid chance for two good hits. Sony has a good brand and a captive audience on the consoles.
If they are smart they makes the games solo friendly to a point, like Digital Extremes did with Warframe. So anti-social curmudgeons like myself can enjoy it.
Mowcno
Member
It's 6 live service games by the end of march 2026 not march 2025. They certainly meant by the end of FY25 which is what they previously said for the 12 back when that was originally announced. They're not releasing 6 live service games in a 15 month period.
It's hard to answer when I don't know exactly what Sony class as live-service. Is Helldivers 2 one of these?
I think LBP and Modnation Racers would both be "live service" games if they got new entries. Warhawk? Wipeout? Everybody's Golf?
Concord, Marathon and Fairgame$ are presumably 3 of these 6 titles.
It's hard to answer when I don't know exactly what Sony class as live-service. Is Helldivers 2 one of these?
I think LBP and Modnation Racers would both be "live service" games if they got new entries. Warhawk? Wipeout? Everybody's Golf?
Concord, Marathon and Fairgame$ are presumably 3 of these 6 titles.
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Kenneth Haight
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They’d be stupid to at least not try to chase this market so you can’t blame them. First party output in 2023 has been meagre, I’m expecting an improvement in 2024, if not for such a strong third party year there would be a lot more questions being asked.
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Portugeezer
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There is only so much time people can put into games, with so many live service available, they'd be lucky to get 1 or 2 big hits.
Magic Carpet
Member
I've done my time playing and paying these games with my son and Fortnite, He's older and over it, I'm way over it.
So I'm going to be Switzerland,
I'm not going to be partaking any any of it, none, zero, zip.
I'm not going to watch Youtube video's of any of it.
I'm not going to read threads for any of it.
Sam the Eagle - You are all Weirdos
So I'm going to be Switzerland,
I'm not going to be partaking any any of it, none, zero, zip.
I'm not going to watch Youtube video's of any of it.
I'm not going to read threads for any of it.
Sam the Eagle - You are all Weirdos
Jinzo Prime
Member
Foamstars is Square Enix.
SEGAvangelist
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I vote 0-1 because I think Marathon and one rando have a chance. GaaS games are tough. Good luck.
Krappadizzle
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Sony's Plan:
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Roxkis_ii
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I trust Sony to know what good games are. If its fun to play and the montazion isn't egregious, then I'll treat it like a single player game like Gt7.
I expect maybe two or three games to make it, if the games are diverse.
(not close down after 6 months is my metric).
Sony seems pretty good at reading their audience and making corrections. They were able to see that gamers want higher frame rates this console gen and every game after HFW has had a proformance mode at lauch. So if a gaas releases, and doesn't do well, I expect them to make the nessarcy changes to get other games on track.
I expect maybe two or three games to make it, if the games are diverse.
(not close down after 6 months is my metric).
Sony seems pretty good at reading their audience and making corrections. They were able to see that gamers want higher frame rates this console gen and every game after HFW has had a proformance mode at lauch. So if a gaas releases, and doesn't do well, I expect them to make the nessarcy changes to get other games on track.
ResilientBanana
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What are they, other than Marathon?
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Games of Today
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My guess for a successful live service would be either Factions if that ever actually releases or the Horizon MMO.
Everything else will die quickly.
What ever Concord is could be decent, at least it looks cool from the trailer but it'll probably be just alright more than anything.
Everything else will die quickly.
What ever Concord is could be decent, at least it looks cool from the trailer but it'll probably be just alright more than anything.
Perrott
Gold Member
The new goal is to have six live service games out by March 2026, not 2025. Sony counts they fiscal years differently than other companies.It's time.
Last week, Hiroki Totoki proclaimed that PlayStation is set to release 6 Live Service games by March 2025. There's been a lot of talk on NeoGAF about this Live Service strategy so I thought it would be interesting to create an Eat Crow mechanism. I've set a reminder for March 1st, 2025 in my phone. This thread will be bumped on said date so a percentage of GAFers can...
Question: How many of the six do you think will prove successful?
Important: Answers are public. You can not change your vote. Take your time and choose wisely.
Regarding success, well, I think Marathon will be the true hit; Fairgame$ will be successful but not a billion dollar property; Helldivers II and Horizon Online will do well enough to not be shutdown, and Concord will die within a year.
Dr.Morris79
Member
If I've no interest and will never play them I guess that's 0?
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Someone tell me this is not true.
Unrivaledx88
Member
If it’s Fun all of them , if they are boring none of them
PatientGamer
Member
1 will be successful, and by successful I mean.. Insomniac, Santa Monica, ND successful. The rest will fail hard.
Perrott
Gold Member
Sony Commits to Launch Just Six of PlayStation's 12 Live Service Games by March 2026 - IGN
Sony president Hiroki Totoki has said the company is reviewing PlayStation's live service game push amid development trouble that has already seen Naughty Dog’s The Last of Us multiplayer game hit with setbacks.
For other companies, FY25 means what it should mean: the financial year ending on March 2025; but for Sony, that's the financial year starting on April 2025 and going through March 2026.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Sony Commits to Launch Just Six of PlayStation's 12 Live Service Games by March 2026 - IGN
Sony president Hiroki Totoki has said the company is reviewing PlayStation's live service game push amid development trouble that has already seen Naughty Dog’s The Last of Us multiplayer game hit with setbacks.www.ign.com
For other companies, FY25 means what it should mean: the financial year ending on March 2025; but for Sony, that's the financial year starting on April 2025 and going through March 2026.
Currently going through the "trust but verify" grieving process. I think you're likely right, but I'm seeing different outlets say the FY ends March 2025. I want you to be wrong so very very badly.
BootsLoader
Banned
I don’t think they will have any luck with their GAAS games. Sony fans are not used to that kind of games and also there are many GAAS games already.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
A big portion of their audience is Fortnite, CoD, Apex Legends, Destiny, etc.
So their casual audience certainly is used to GaaS type games
StealthGoblin
Banned
So you want PlayStation to only have high-risk IP and dwindling profit. Nice
BootsLoader
Banned
Don’t know, maybe the fanbase I talk about is too hardcore. Also, as you said yourself, most of these games are third party and there are a lot already. But who knows.
Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
I don’t care what any company makes or loses. I’m not being thrown every micro-transaction a company hires a psychologist to find at myself or my kids.
If you wish to do that, have fun. When there is a single player game that I paid full price for and no micro-transactions, I will buy it for myself or my children. I’m not having my kids groomed by these people to give up their money as adults for digital goods that have no value.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Fairgame$ looks like a flaming bag of dogshit and that’s what they chose to show first. Doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence.
MrMephistoX
Member
None of them are SOCOM or Warhawk so my estimate is 0% chance of success
StealthGoblin
Banned
You've failed to understand the broader point. Those single player games we love that push the boundaries of production values? Yeah,
... they are going to increasingly depend on Sony's GAAS games doing well.
I'm not into GAAS games either, but I'd like to keep playing the high standard of Single Player games I've come to love... But they are costing hundreds of million to develop each now.
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