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Hardware Hype Platform Nvidia RTX 3060 announced: 13TF, 12GB GDDR6 - $329, (un)available late February

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When I sell my 2060 Super this will be a free upgrade if I can find one.

Literally the same performance.
And youll never reach a point where the VRAM advantage makes sense because the chip would be too weak to utilize that VRAM anyway.
 
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Well alright then! Thank you Nvidia for reading my mind and fulfilling my hopes and dreams!
Provided it's actually available at $329 at any reasonable point at any meaningful quantity, this sounds like my ideal next card as well. But those are probably big "if"s.
 
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Yeah, the real story is when the market will actually be back in the buyers’ favor again. None if this matters until that happens.
 

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Literally the same performance.
And youll never reach a point where the VRAM advantage makes sense because the chip would be too weak to utilize that VRAM anyway.
7.2 tflops vs 13 tflops the same performance? I don't know about that

I need the extra VRAM for non-gaming related things plus like I said it wouldn't cost me a dime
 
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Tech Jesus suggesting all the Ampere refreshes are on hold to clear more availability of current SKU's - they got this from an AIB source.

There's also an Anandtech comparison table showing the 3060 lagging quite aways behind the Ti.
 
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Probably best card for anybody to upgrade towards if its available. 12gb is a nice trade off for that price point. Makes you really think how utter dog shit the other cards v-ram wise are.

This practically kills of the entire second handed 2000 series market.
 
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The 1080Ti and 2070 Super have pretty much the same performance in classic workloads.

And the 3060 wont be at that level.
Itll likely be at the 2060Super.

Which makes the card all the more WTF.
You wont be VRAM constrained when the card cant even power its way to filling its VRAM and will perform similar to the card its replacing.
the 2060Super.

I guess its a "decent" card for low tier workstations not needing to go out of core will help.
But for a gaming build its barely worth the price of entry.

It needed to be 300 dollars or less.
Knowing that we will never actually get cards at the MSRP of 329.

If you dont care too much about RT/DLSS the 5700XT is already a better card.
And if you do you could likely find a 2070Super for less than the scalper price you will likely have to pay.

U should look at the market. this card makes all the sense for anybody that doesn't own a 2000 series or 3000 series card.

Here is what u can get.

2060 6gb = 330 bucks ( heavily bottlenecks even at 1080p already shit v-ram pool )
2060 super 8gb = 440 bucks
2070 super 8gb = 570 bucks
1080ti 11gb = not buyable and goes for 350 on second handed market without warranty at this point so massive yolo.
5700xt 8gb = 430 bucks. Has no new features much like the 1080ti even less so actually

2070 super isn't even competing against this card because its far to expensive for how it performs.
1080ti u can't get without warranty anymore and even then its going to cost you more then 300 bucks most likely for a good one that didn't fell from a truck and runs on 1 fan. Also no next gen features on it.
5700xt is completely outdated at this point and honestly in any game with DLSS which practically any demanding game is these days falls much like the 1080ti behind. the 430 buck price point it gets sold kinda kills it completely.
6000 series cards are way to expensive. 570 for the cheapest is simple not anybody cares for in this space.

Honestly i see no card that competes currently in the market with that 3060.

It's the card to get for the mid range crowd. The higher end crowd will have to wait for the 3080 20gb model or simple wait for the 4000 series at this point. as the 10gb makes no sense.
 

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7.2 tflops vs 13 tflops the same performance? I don't know about that

I need the extra VRAM for non-gaming related things plus like I said it wouldn't cost me a dime
Yes the 2060 Super and 3060 will be within spitting distance of each other.
There will be effectively no difference between them and the chip being as small and weak as it is, the VRAM advantage will literally never show up.

Nvidia specifically didnt compare it to something lastgen because they knew how stupid it would look to have the new xx60 perform exactly the same as the old xx60.
Every other card was compared to a bigger lastgen chip.

3080 vs everything.
3070 vs 2080ti.
3060ti vs 2080 Super.
3060 vs 1060? Hold up what?


The 2080 Super is 11 tflops
The 3060ti is 16 tflops.

You wanna guess where the 3060ti falls versus the 2080 Super?

Considering the 3050(i refuse to call it a 3060) has over 1000 less CUDA cores than the 3060Ti....its not even a particularly good Workstation machine.

Unless what you need to do Non-gaming specifically needs CUDA/OptiX then realistically the 5600XT or even a really old second hand 1080ti will make more sense.
 

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Hell yes!
Just gonna wait for the RTX 4k series then i'll wait for the 5k series.
Seems to be advancing WAY too fast to bother upgrading right now.
 

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U should look at the market. this card makes all the sense for anybody that doesn't own a 2000 series or 3000 series card.

Here is what u can get.

2060 6gb = 330 bucks ( heavily bottlenecks even at 1080p already shit v-ram pool )
2060 super 8gb = 440 bucks
2070 super 8gb = 570 bucks
1080ti 11gb = not buyable and goes for 350 on second handed market without warranty at this point so massive yolo.
5700xt 8gb = 430 bucks. Has no new features much like the 1080ti even less so actually

2070 super isn't even competing against this card because its far to expensive for how it performs.
1080ti u can't get without warranty anymore and even then its going to cost you more then 300 bucks most likely for a good one that didn't fell from a truck and runs on 1 fan. Also no next gen features on it.
5700xt is completely outdated at this point and honestly in any game with DLSS which practically any demanding game is these days falls much like the 1080ti behind. the 430 buck price point it gets sold kinda kills it completely.
6000 series cards are way to expensive. 570 for the cheapest is simple not anybody cares for in this space.

Honestly i see no card that competes currently in the market with that 3060.

It's the card to get for the mid range crowd. The higher end crowd will have to wait for the 3080 20gb model or simple wait for the 4000 series at this point. as the 10gb makes no sense.
When a card comes out and its main selling point is if you dont have a lastgen card here is one for you, you pretty much already know this product is shit.

Every other RTX card was either a range topper or was compared to prior range toppers because there was a gen on gen improvement.
The 3060 doesnt have that so it was compared to the 1060.....yes the GTX 1060 from frikken 5 years ago.

Dont kid yourself into think youll get this card at MSRP.
Itll be 400 dollars when all is said and done.
So near literally the same price as the 2060 Super that it performs the same as.


For new PC builder literally any card is better than no card so thats pretty much a moot point.
We are talking about people upgrading like on this very page someone is planning on "upgrading" from a 2060 Super to this?
Its a bottom of the barrel card that has an MSRP a couple dollars too high.....thats why im hating on it not because its an outright shit card.

A budget sub 300 dollar 3050 with these specs would be an absolute monster and really would take over the 1060s spot on the Steam charts.


There are only like ~15 games that Support DLSS, you almost make it sound synonymous with demanding games........but it isnt.
And thats counting DLSS 1.0 shittery.
2.0 and 2.1 the number is lower.

Yes its a selling point but the 5700XT is going outperform this card in 9 outta 10 games that are used as benchmark titles.
So which card would you say is better......if this card only has like 15/10 million titles to choose from where it can excel?
Hell yes!
Just gonna wait for the RTX 4k series then i'll wait for the 5k series.
Seems to be advancing WAY too fast to bother upgrading right now.

5000 series expected to be Hopper with MCM arch......so thats probably a really good idea because Hopper is likely going to be a truly generational leap.
I pretty much always skip a generation or two with GPUs....after the 3000 series def skipping the 4000 series if it isnt Hopper.
 
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Why do they keep announcing new GPUs when they can't produce them?
In a nutshell, nvidia underestimated the impact of AMD's new offerings, and thought they could double down on profit while screwing the customer on price. The 12gb in the 3060 is pretty much nvidia admitting they fucked up.

On top of that, the bitterness and backlash they created themselves by holding back product to AIB's over the FE's has double screwed them. And then throw in the card miners.

And now you know why nvidia at the moment is synonymous with 'out of stock'.
 
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In a nutshell, nvidia underestimated the impact of AMD's new offerings, and thought they could double down on profit while screwing the customer on price. The 12gb in the 3060 is pretty much nvidia admitting they fucked up.

On top of that, the bitterness and backlash they created themselves by holding back product to AIB's over the FE's has double screwed them. And then throw in the card miners.

And now you know why nvidia at the moment is synonymous with 'out of stock'.


Not true. They actually delayed the 3080 Ti indefinitely precisely because AMD doesnt compete with their top card nor does it have any product on stock. The stock for amd's cards is much worse than nvidias. The 12 gigs vram is just marketing play together with amd since amd decided to put this high amount of vram even though its completely uless for the entire lifespan of the cards and the next gen after them
 
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Yes the 2060 Super and 3060 will be within spitting distance of each other.
There will be effectively no difference between them and the chip being as small and weak as it is, the VRAM advantage will literally never show up.

Nvidia specifically didnt compare it to something lastgen because they knew how stupid it would look to have the new xx60 perform exactly the same as the old xx60.
Every other card was compared to a bigger lastgen chip.

3080 vs everything.
3070 vs 2080ti.
3060ti vs 2080 Super.
3060 vs 1060? Hold up what?


The 2080 Super is 11 tflops
The 3060ti is 16 tflops.

You wanna guess where the 3060ti falls versus the 2080 Super?

Considering the 3050(i refuse to call it a 3060) has over 1000 less CUDA cores than the 3060Ti....its not even a particularly good Workstation machine.

Unless what you need to do Non-gaming specifically needs CUDA/OptiX then realistically the 5600XT or even a really old second hand 1080ti will make more sense.

I reckon it will be comparable to the 2070 super. No point in writing the card off yet in terms of where it will sit performance wise, benchmarks aren't too far off.
 

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Not true. They actually delayed the 3080 Ti indefinitely precisely because AMD doesnt compete with their top card nor does it have any product on stock. The stock for amd's cards is much worse than nvidias. The 12 gigs vram is just marketing play together with amd since amd decided to put this high amount of vram even though its completely uless for the entire lifespan of the cards and the next gen after them
Nope nopey nope dopey nope. If you look at the video from Tech Jesus, the delay is to ensure stock can be kept up on current sku's.

Now, sure, there's a bit of marketing bullshit in there, but the point about nvidia realising they've burnt some goodwill with all the bullshit of the past 3-4 months is a good thing.

Is there a 3080 Ti 20Gb iteration at the back of the oven? You betcha your lilly ass there is, but the optics... the optics of when to launch...
 
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I reckon it will be comparable to the 2070 super. No point in writing the card off yet in terms of where it will sit performance wise, benchmarks aren't too far off.
The 2070 Super?

Mate.
You think this is the gap between the RTX 2060 and the 2070 Super!


^This graph is practically like for like what the 1060 vs 2060 vs 2060 Super looks like.
This card will only just go beyond 2060 Super in anything thats RT heavy and in pure raster workloads itll be the same....within spitting distance.


Just for context this is where current cards stack up in Total War Three Kingdoms, which the 3060 pulls ~65fps.
The 2070 Super easily powers its way into the 80s.
This card is a replacement 2060Super with the exact same performance.
 

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I finally whant to get into PC gaming but i refrained because of price hike and now unavailability. When and where do you best preorder in EU ?
 

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Yes the 2060 Super and 3060 will be within spitting distance of each other.
There will be effectively no difference between them and the chip being as small and weak as it is, the VRAM advantage will literally never show up.

Nvidia specifically didnt compare it to something lastgen because they knew how stupid it would look to have the new xx60 perform exactly the same as the old xx60.
Every other card was compared to a bigger lastgen chip.

3080 vs everything.
3070 vs 2080ti.
3060ti vs 2080 Super.
3060 vs 1060? Hold up what?


The 2080 Super is 11 tflops
The 3060ti is 16 tflops.

You wanna guess where the 3060ti falls versus the 2080 Super?

Considering the 3050(i refuse to call it a 3060) has over 1000 less CUDA cores than the 3060Ti....its not even a particularly good Workstation machine.

Unless what you need to do Non-gaming specifically needs CUDA/OptiX then realistically the 5600XT or even a really old second hand 1080ti will make more sense.
RTX 3060 will most likely sit between 2070 and 2070 Super on avg.
 

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The 2070 Super?

Mate.
You think this is the gap between the RTX 2060 and the 2070 Super!


^This graph is practically like for like what the 1060 vs 2060 vs 2060 Super looks like.
This card will only just go beyond 2060 Super in anything thats RT heavy and in pure raster workloads itll be the same....within spitting distance.


Just for context this is where current cards stack up in Total War Three Kingdoms, which the 3060 pulls ~65fps.
The 2070 Super easily powers its way into the 80s.
This card is a replacement 2060Super with the exact same performance.

Fair enough. Even if it is around the performance of the 2060 super I don't see that as a bad thing considering the price and the much needed bump in VRAM. The 2060 super was $399 when it came out.
 

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Whats the point if 99% of the cards will head to miners & scalpers.
 
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Price point matters. That is what Nvidia is marketing to. If they can hit MSRP, this will sell very nicely. The VRAM appears high at a glance, but 60 series owners don't upgrade as often as the higher-end cards making a good amount of memory extremely important long term. Even if performance is identical to 2060 Super, there is 20% price reduction, or there about, and that is critical for mass market parts. Now if the 6700 has the memory and noticeably better performance...
 

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Whats the point if 99% of the cards will head to miners & scalpers.
I guess the hope is that it's too slow for miners and that people interested in this card have a budget where they absolutely won't pay anything above MSRP. My guess is unfortunately you're completely correct and they'll be unavailable for anything under MSRP+$150. (Oh and that it might be slow for mining but more efficient so just build a bigger mining rig.)
 

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When a card comes out and its main selling point is if you dont have a lastgen card here is one for you, you pretty much already know this product is shit.

Every other RTX card was either a range topper or was compared to prior range toppers because there was a gen on gen improvement.
The 3060 doesnt have that so it was compared to the 1060.....yes the GTX 1060 from frikken 5 years ago.

Dont kid yourself into think youll get this card at MSRP.
Itll be 400 dollars when all is said and done.
So near literally the same price as the 2060 Super that it performs the same as.


For new PC builder literally any card is better than no card so thats pretty much a moot point.
We are talking about people upgrading like on this very page someone is planning on "upgrading" from a 2060 Super to this?
Its a bottom of the barrel card that has an MSRP a couple dollars too high.....thats why im hating on it not because its an outright shit card.

A budget sub 300 dollar 3050 with these specs would be an absolute monster and really would take over the 1060s spot on the Steam charts.


There are only like ~15 games that Support DLSS, you almost make it sound synonymous with demanding games........but it isnt.
And thats counting DLSS 1.0 shittery.
2.0 and 2.1 the number is lower.

Yes its a selling point but the 5700XT is going outperform this card in 9 outta 10 games that are used as benchmark titles.
So which card would you say is better......if this card only has like 15/10 million titles to choose from where it can excel?


5000 series expected to be Hopper with MCM arch......so thats probably a really good idea because Hopper is likely going to be a truly generational leap.
I pretty much always skip a generation or two with GPUs....after the 3000 series def skipping the 4000 series if it isnt Hopper.

Naming means nothing anymore even for AMD. Only some people still care for it i surely don't. That counts for cpu and gpu solutions.

its compared to a 1060 because that's what nvidia is targeting with this card, its a up to date 2060 basically u could see that from the price they are aiming for and its a dam good card for that price bracket in the current age. as nothing else competes with it. Unless AMD starts to up there effort there is really nothing on the market somebody should consider buying if u can spend ~300 bucks for a gpu.

Whatever the end price will be in the reality isn't interesting for comparison solutions, otherwise u can't compare anything anymore.

No not any card is better, a card that will stays relevant is important. u buy a 970 now second handed u will be severely crippled in games even at 1080p to the point it becomes unplayable at times in recent games and it won't age well for the next year games as they will all be builded for newer engines with pushes more requirements.

The 1060 was already overtaken by a 1660ti/ super and a 2060, this one will replace the 2060 and that 1660 super yet both have the same issue's called v-ram which the 3060 fixes with more performance and a newer architecture.

That 3060 will be a MASSIVE update over the 1060 and nvidia is right on it. because there are tons of people currently looking for a upgrade that come from a 1060 / 1050 or 1050 ti if not 1070. I think its like 10's of millions of consumers. Its smart to offer a better more attractive card in that price range for it.

People already play millions of games on there 1060, they don't need a new gpu for those games. they need a new gpu for games like cyberpunk that made there gpu bend the knee to levels they don't prefer. Aka next generation titles which will even require more and more performance. the same why people with a 2060 wants to upgrade because of its 6gb of v-ram that is holding them back setting wise already in legion and cyberpunk and those are not even proper next gen titles yet the 2060 has enough performance to keep up in framerates in those games perfectly fine.

Going from 20 fps to 60 with cyberpunk is a massive upgrade no matter if u like it or not. guess what those titles also mostly are supported with or the majority of those titles? DLSS and nvidia features. So yea going for a nvidia card and dlss that pushes far past its level performance because of it is something u want to go for.

People ignoring DLSS because they have some agenda against it "aka amd fanboys" honestly are just kidding themselves rather then being realistic. cyberpunk on that 3060 will dumpster a 1080ti and 5700xt any day ( aka higher tier cards ) without effort. Most people consider the 2000 series as 1000 series but with RTX slammed on it, 3000 series is its real successor when u look for upgrades.

Also u keep comparing this card with a 5700xt, yet amd has no card with 12gb of v-ram first off all, or higher then 8 besides 570 dollar cards which are completely out of its range price wise. and the 5700xt last time i checked is still 100 buck more expensive and lacks all the features.

The card has enough v-ram for i/o rtx later on this year and whatever more demanding textures are pushed forwards. It will not fall behind below unacceptable levels like a 1060 3gb for example would aka 5600xt.

Add nvenc support for it, which makes streaming possible which on a AMD gpu is a big fat no go, have fun reserving 8 cores on your CPU to push comparable stream quality forwards on that solution, with RTX voice and if you do any encoding what majority of people do these days probably with the youtube age is far more attractive then what AMD is offering.

If AMD would want to catch up they should have.

1) release that 6800xt for 499, that 6800 for 399 and a 12gb model for 299. + have massive amounts of stock.
2) have a dlss solution
3) start spending money on high profile pc games to get your shit running on it not stuff like that shitty fighter game and some dirt 5 game nobody plays with. Start get your shit to work on cyberpunk for example in the same way nvidia is pushing it.
4) alternative to nvenc
5) create technology's and make them exclusive to your gpu solution. because whatever they invent atm i can use it on my nvidia cards perfectly fine.
6) also no gsync compatible solution as a lot of higher end gpu owners probably have a gsync monitor.

They are massively behind software wise and technology wise already for a good decade now. and frankly unless they start to actually push some software support forwards and not desert there products entirely after they release like the 5000 series driver disaster which every single generation hits amd hardware, they won't be interesting for anybody else unless they offer a steep discount on there products.

I have no clue why u would even chill for a 5700xt card that makes no sense in any market. No matter how much u want too but DLSS isn't going away and more and more titles support it every day and those titles are all also massive gpu hogs. the only title i can think off that was a high profile title that didn't made use of it was ac valhalla but even there engine with legion is making use of it now. So u can expect the next title to also hit DLSS in a year or so from now.

And if amd creates a new solution that everybody can use and every engine will use, then nvidia will also make use of it the next day so yea. Not much reason to ship to them for it.
 
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Lol.. these releases are a joke. They should just contact the scalpers and do a deal privately instead of creating all this hype around their product they can't even find a way to sell to the end consumers.
 
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yeah... i’ll just be waiting for the 4 series. i’m ok with actually gaming in my 1660 laptop... for the moment.
 

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Pretty underwhelming performance. Circa 2070 in both rasterization and ray tracing.
 

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I’ve seen some for £500 what a joke. And these are supposed to be the cheep cards.

3070 is supposed to be 499 rrp
 

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At MSRP it seems to be priced about right. $299 would have made it more compelling.

Checking back in one year from now when maybe you can find one under $350.00
 
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EVGA's 3060 SC Black Gaming is 329. I'm in the que.

Hope I have money when my number comes up. Vet bills coming up for my new kittens.
 

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EVGA's 3060 SC Black Gaming is 329. I'm in the que.

Hope I have money when my number comes up. Vet bills coming up for my new kittens.

If you can get it at that price thats awesome for you.
You could also try finding a 2060 Super that this card trades blows with.

The VRAM advantage is only useful if you have a workstation workload that cant do out-of-core.
 
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so.. another paper launch by Nvidia??

None of the ampere cards were paper launches. Do people still not understand what paper launch means ? You have millions of cards already indexed in steam hardware, ebay is filled with scalped cards. Why in the fuck do people still go on with the paper launches ? AMD is infinitely more appropriate to use that term for, and its still not a paper launch either
 
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None of the ampere cards were paper launches. Do people still not understand what paper launch means ? You have millions of cards already indexed in steam hardware, ebay is filled with scalped cards. Why in the fuck do people still go on with the paper launches ? AMD is infinitely more appropriate to use that term for, and its still not a paper launch either
Gotta disagree here and call bullshit. 3060 may be better - however - 3080 was a complete paper launch - especially compared to previous launches.

To use your metrics - there were very few on eBay, and I was on the EVGA waiting list for MONTHS before my option to buy came up (by that time I passed).

There weren’t “millions” available at launch - not even close. I seriously doubt there was even 100k available for the US.

Actual photos of PEOPLE receiving their FEs were posted months after their orders.

In chatting with the EVGA team - it was clear that they didn’t get any stock from NVidia until a few weeks before the launch. It was also clear that there were problems getting additional chips from Nvidia so that EVGA could ramp their production. They had noted expected stock in 1-2 weeks and then suddenly- they reported delayed availability (with no timeline).

The only option that had some semblance of available stock were freaking Zotac cards and even those were sporadic and random in availability.

Its simple - compare and contrast the console launches against the 3080 - consoles were hard to find but not impossible. “Millions” were sold (and received) at launch.
 
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Gotta disagree here and call bullshit. 3060 may be better - however - 3080 was a complete paper launch - especially compared to previous launches.

To use your metrics - there were very few on eBay, and I was on the EVGA waiting list for MONTHS before my option to buy came up (by that time I passed).

There weren’t “millions” available at launch - not even close. I seriously doubt there was even 100k available for the US.

Actual photos of PEOPLE receiving their FEs were posted months after their orders.

In chatting with the EVGA team - it was clear that they didn’t get any stock from NVidia until a few weeks before the launch. It was also clear that there were problems getting additional chips from Nvidia so that EVGA could ramp their production. They had noted expected stock in 1-2 weeks and then suddenly- they reported delayed availability (with no timeline).

The only option that had some semblance of available stock were freaking Zotac cards and even those were sporadic and random in availability.

Its simple - compare and contrast the console launches against the 3080 - consoles were hard to find but not impossible. “Millions” were sold (and received) at launch.


I didnt say there were millions available at launch. There are now, 5 months later. You can see the percentage on steam hardware. 3080 alone is almost 0.7%. Thats about 2 million cards just for that. Then you have 3090, 3070 and 3060TI. A paper launch is literally when no cards are released on the market, even though the company says they launched them
 

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Doesn't the steam hardware survey only do the select people who opt in? If that's the case your numbers coukd be off, way off.
Also your numbers seem to imply 1% is 200 million users.

So of you went with let's say 20 million users who opted into the survey, your numbers drop to 200,000, which is extremely low.
It's also skewed as I imaging Shiney new hardware owners are the most likely to opt in - to show off.
 
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I didnt say there were millions available at launch. There are now, 5 months later. You can see the percentage on steam hardware. 3080 alone is almost 0.7%. Thats about 2 million cards just for that. Then you have 3090, 3070 and 3060TI. A paper launch is literally when no cards are released on the market, even though the company says they launched them

And that's my entire point - 3080 was effectively a paper launch for nearly 1-2 months - no cards were available from AIBs or Nvidia (FE) for nearly 1-2 months after launch. The few that did get them - it certainly wasn't a significant number of people.

Certainly there are cards *now* - but there still remain very limited options and are certainly not readily available nearly 6 months later.. I would probably be interested in a 3080 FE if I could buy one... and I'm not going to waste my time strapped to a computer to grab one (tried that for nearly a month).

This didn't happen with the 20xx launches.

Releasing a product like a video card/console, etc. - based purely on estimated demand - there should be at least 500k - 1M available at launch - with a steady stream of cards provided per week thereafter.

For EVGA - I was in the queue for 4+ months (literally signed up after launch).
 

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Is it me or is this GPU even at MSRP a joke. Barely faster than last gens 300 gpus (rx 5600xt, rtx 2060) and just on par with 350-400gpus like rx5700 and rtx 2060 super