More_Badass
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Also the devs of Environmental Station Alpha, a really great hidden gem of a metroidvania
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBLoffoZLH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBLoffoZLH8
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Noita trailer | Physics-based roguelite platformer from Swapper, Crayon Physics devs
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Jampsuliini
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Fun fact: Noita means witch in Finnish 
The magic effects look really cool. Really makes it look like you got some nasty spells in your arsenal.
The magic effects look really cool. Really makes it look like you got some nasty spells in your arsenal.
fargofallout
Member
I really, really liked The Swapper, and this game has a cool look, but I would have been more interested if they were doing another puzzle-y game. I'm not one of the "procedural generation and roguelike games are bad!" people, but releasing that sort of game these days has to be a nightmare because there are so many of them.
arturo2666
Banned
Love the look of this. Will check out for sure.
More_Badass
Member
This looks like the best parts of Brogue mixed with the best parts of Catacomb Kids
In other words, pretty awesome
In other words, pretty awesome
The good ones stand out and get recognized. Plus this seems to have a physics puzzle aspect of figuring out how to use the envirommemt to your advantage without killing yourself in the process
jipewithin
Member
Looks amazing! Day one
drotahorror
Member
Amazing. Great trailer.
looks really cool. reminds me of that little physics game i used to fool around with some years ago:
https://dan-ball.jp/en/javagame/dust/
https://dan-ball.jp/en/javagame/dust/
TemplaerDude
Member
This looks and sounds awesome, right up my alley for sure.
More_Badass
Member
This looks more aggressive and action focused, versus CK's stealth and mobility. But the reactivity and interlocking systems is definitely reminiscent of CK. While the environmental simulation looks like Brogue's gas mechanic x 1000
nailbombxx
Member
Looks really cool!!
More_Badass
Member
I like how powerful the spells feel in the trailer. Environmental destruction and interaction go a long way in making magic feel like more than fancy projectiles.
The physics and destructible terrain look nice and remind me of Cortex Command and Liero as others have mentioned. I wonder how the levels are being generated (if they are).
The spells look really fun. The way the ice cracks off is really impressive.
I'm definitely not a big fan of the rotating 'pixels' though. The game is more like a series of rectangles, and not 'pixel art'. I'd much prefer if it were simply rendered at the resolution it's presenting as so you don't end up with mismatched pixel sizes. I'm not a big fan of the smooth glow either, but that's not as disturbing as the rotated pixels.
To me it's like sanding down an oil painting to stop it being so lumpy. That's part of the reason you do an oil painting in the first place!
I know most people don't care, but I see it so often now and it feels like an amateur mistake or a fundamental misunderstanding of the medium. It makes me think the creator doesn't really want to do a pixel art game, they just don't have the resources to render higher resolution assets. Embrace the pixels! Embrace the grid! Embrace the low colour count that made these older games so timelessly beautiful in the first place.
The spells look really fun. The way the ice cracks off is really impressive.
I'm definitely not a big fan of the rotating 'pixels' though. The game is more like a series of rectangles, and not 'pixel art'. I'd much prefer if it were simply rendered at the resolution it's presenting as so you don't end up with mismatched pixel sizes. I'm not a big fan of the smooth glow either, but that's not as disturbing as the rotated pixels.
To me it's like sanding down an oil painting to stop it being so lumpy. That's part of the reason you do an oil painting in the first place!
I know most people don't care, but I see it so often now and it feels like an amateur mistake or a fundamental misunderstanding of the medium. It makes me think the creator doesn't really want to do a pixel art game, they just don't have the resources to render higher resolution assets. Embrace the pixels! Embrace the grid! Embrace the low colour count that made these older games so timelessly beautiful in the first place.
More_Badass
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I think you misunderstand why devs do pixel art, at least the ones who aren't trying to intentionally make homages. It's not about being retro, or trying to look like older games.
(Although personally I can't stand the pixel look of old games and only like modern pixel art.)
I am a dev who does pixel art. I gravitate towards pixel art because it's easy and cheap to animate and make it look good, and for gameplay reasons - you can align physics to a grid (and get those pixel-perfect jumps). You can have full control over every pixel on the screen. I love pixel art! It's also really easy to get it to align to a grid, and limiting your palette often ends up with amazing results. You can have great pixel art that looks modern but still adheres to old constraints!
More_Badass
Member
But why limit yourself to those old constraints when you can do so much more with pixel art?
AuthenticM
Member
Looks cool!
Though I do hope they make another Swapper-like puzzle game.
Though I do hope they make another Swapper-like puzzle game.
LordKasual
Banned
I've been waiting for a game like this for so long.
Something to really take advantage of increasing horsepower.
Something to really take advantage of increasing horsepower.
I thought he was doing Environmental Station Alpha 2? The first one was such a great and overlooked game, which makes me interested in Noita, though I'd rather have ESA2 than some roguelite..
More_Badass
Member
Came to post this!
I do think the game looks though, and as much as this visual aspect bothers me, the gameplay looks really fun and I want to play it.
I'll throw one more comparison on the table that's a real throwback: looks like a sidescrolling Magic Carpet to me. Which is personally awesome.
What kind of PC would likely be needed to run something like this decently? I generally rely on these games making it to the consoles to get access, but this might be one where I'd like to get access as early as possible.
What kind of PC would likely be needed to run something like this decently? I generally rely on these games making it to the consoles to get access, but this might be one where I'd like to get access as early as possible.
That makes the Noita announcement much easier to handle. I thought he'd given up on ESA2 and was doing Noita instead. Good to hear that he has time for both
Graphics Horse
Member
Looks neat! I wonder how large the areas get?
I like how powerful the spells feel in the trailer. Environmental destruction and interaction go a long way in making magic feel like more than fancy projectiles.
Nice, at least someone is picking up where Cortex Command left off. Looks good.
Moose Biscuits
It would be extreamly painful...
Someone made Falling Sand into a full game? Rad.
This too. Cortex Command needs more love.
This too. Cortex Command needs more love.
DouglasteR
Member
A full fledge simulation world ? A glimpse into the future !
Subs´d
Subs´d
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Looks neat
On one hand I love the graphics, style, music, explosions and the fact one of the developers did Environmental Station Alpha.
On the other hand, I always become wary of "rogue-lite" and "procedurally generated" (ironically, even though I haven't played that many).
That said, looking forward to it.
On the other hand, I always become wary of "rogue-lite" and "procedurally generated" (ironically, even though I haven't played that many).
That said, looking forward to it.
More_Badass
Member
Spelunky, Rogue Legacy, Downwell, Catacomb Kids, Vagante, Cave Blazers, Binding of Isaac, etc
The good ones are really good.
Large Professor
Member
I'm trying to not get too excited as the release is probably far away.
Was my first thought too.
More_Badass
Member
I can't believe I didnt make the Falling Sand connection. Loved those when I was younger