MasterCornholio
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It's weird but Sony has been fighting the FUD with games. If the FUD was true the PS5 would have been reviewed as a terrible console. But that isn't the case once people get their hands on it.
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It's weird but Sony has been fighting the FUD with games. If the FUD was true the PS5 would have been reviewed as a terrible console. But that isn't the case once people get their hands on it.
Because it's not worth it for them to get involved in any of that. Sony's marketing approach these days is very Apple-like; they see themselves as being above all this and they don't even acknowledge the competition or get involved in console wars banter anymore.
Instead they let the product speak for itself. All the FUD on the internet only adds up to a very very small percentage of the potential audience that Sony is going for. Those 110m+ PS4 owners aren't following all this noise; they will just look at the games on PS5 and be convinced that it's a worthwhile purchase.
Imtjnotu
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AeneaGames
Member
Of course, who wouldn't want to be on team blue!?
inflation
Member
* AMD enters the chat
HAL-01
Member
The vast majority of consumers do not know what RDNA is or floppies this or SFS that. MS leans into those because they know their customers are more PC-minded and like to boast about specs.
As someone already drew the comparison, Sony is more apple-like in its engineering in which they don’t build their specs to sound impressive, but focus on effective performance and user experience, which is what matters to the end consumer.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Ouch for that no upgrade recommendation from ArsTechnica to PS5 for existing PS4/PS4 Pro users.
Don't read too much into it.
smallpotatosan
Member
yep. Acknowledging and fighting the FUD only give the competition more exposure. It’s the last thing the marketing team wants. Sony is doing a classical job as the market leader.
kyliethicc
Member
So the Xbox Series X/S does not have any sort of custom SSD. Its literally an off the shelf PC part, a Gen3 M.2 drive from WD.
Which means... because its a M.2 2230 form factor... we can actually put the Xbox SSD inside the PS5 expansion bay.
Of course it won't work because its 1) way too slow and 2) the expansion bay doesn't work yet lol
Which means... because its a M.2 2230 form factor... we can actually put the Xbox SSD inside the PS5 expansion bay.
Of course it won't work because its 1) way too slow and 2) the expansion bay doesn't work yet lol
thelastword
Banned
Actually, The Last Guardian was very close to 2160p...It was actually 1900p.....It now runs a locked 60fps at that resolution.
AeneaGames
Member
After all those we believe in generations Marketing crap from Sony and then releasing Spider-Man MM and Horizon Forbidden West on PS4.
Now we have another turn of events, after praising the SSD as the second coming of Jesus and saying that it’s FAR AHEAD (!) of HIGH-END PCs! LOL
fuck even Linus had to make a apoligize video:
PS5 SSD Is 'Far Ahead' of High-End PCs, Epic Games CEO Says - IGN
The PlayStation 5 breakthroughs on SSD and storage are ahead of any PC alternatives.www.ign.com
for not praising the PS5 SSD, although he was write from the fucking beginning!
Seriously, Sony should get much more flack for pulling this crap.
Oh boy, if MS would do anything like this, they would be dead already.
Just remember when MS openly and very transparently announced that they are doing cross-gen games, how EVERYONE - even MS fanboys - trashed them.
now imagine if they pretended all the time that they believe in generations and then come out saying they will release cross-gen games. This would be a bloodbath
TECHRADAR (on XBSX): Xbox Series X's cross-gen approach is robbing players of the next-gen thrill.
TECHRADAR (on XBSX): Xbox Series X's cross-gen approach is robbing players of the next-gen thrill
It are mostly Indie games .. wtf. I thought almost all looked better than this generation. It always the same with a new gen .. did reporters get reset ? And start blank? Just curious ? I mean it’s been this way since snes, looks hardly better than NES. 🤣 The funny thing they were for the...www.neogaf.com
This is not gonna age well
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Improved but not as good as I was hoping for.
Edit: Cuts between non-playable scenes and gameplay aren’t as jarring though which is nice.
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THEAP99
Banned
cus the average consumer will look at spider-man, not buzzwords
PS5 use hevc, lol, this is confirmed from 1 week ago, when remote play ask you install hevc in Windows
for getting HDR from PS5
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Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
THIS!
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Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
THEAP99
Banned
is it getting a free next gen patch? modern warfare and warzone?
inflation
Member
But it's not in the capture UI from all the reveal and tour videos. So we'll have to wait and see.
Unpatched games very probably are using legacy modes. Probably the same number of CU and frequency for CPU and GPU, if BC is working so good is because CPU and GPU efficiency
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Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
I know the new Cold War game is getting next gen support but nothing has been confirmed yet for Warzone and Modern Warefare, although I definitely think it will happen within the next few months, we should get a 4K and 120 FPS performance mode, Warzone has 75 million players so they'd be fools not to add next gen support.
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Looks like this is the disk version without patches, so people who has digital version will play to 30fps
MasterCornholio
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ethomaz
Banned
I remember when they tried to say Xbox One will sell more that PS4.Ouch for that no upgrade recommendation from ArsTechnica to PS5 for existing PS4/PS4 Pro users.
They are pathetic.
Garani
Member
Well, it should.
The fact that they are using another off-the-shelf item actually shows how much they want the PC-XBox develper experience to be similar. They basically built a PC.
THEAP99
Banned
that's a shame because modern warfare when it comes to technical things, looks way and feels way better than cold war. would be a good showcase
THEAP99
Banned
“Critics agree that Sony's PS5 transcends on-paper comparisons to Xbox, and is the only new console that "feels" next-gen from the first moment”
PlayStation 5 | Critical Consensus https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-11-06-playstation-5-critical-consensus
PlayStation 5 | Critical Consensus https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-11-06-playstation-5-critical-consensus
thelastword
Banned
Interesting, lord have mercy when next gen games loading times comparisons are shown or if Sony does more work to open BC to more of the PS5's IO benefits....
That onboard SSD is going to be blazing on next gen games. Most of the IO benefits with 12 gates are not even at optimum yet....The future looks bright. It's no wonder Sony stipulates a faster SSD drive slotted into the expansion slot to match the onboard SSD which also happens to be extremely close to the CPU. GPU, Geometry Engine and Ram pool....They are all coordinated much more than we have seen in any console before..PCIe 3.0 2x is only 2Gb/s transfer rate .... less than the 2.4Gb/s raw that was announced
And to think this is not even the max power of PS5 being utilized, as can be seen by some disparity in the IO benefits, not utilizing raytracing. So a BC game can utilize any of three profiles, we can't know for sure. Knowing Ubisoft we can still be utilizing the PS4 level of PS5 support in BC, which would allocate 18 CU's at 800Mhz and CPU at 8 cores 1600Mhz no SMT. That in a GCN profile may be more than enough to run AC unity at 900p 60fps most of the time as it does now except the cutscenes, but it just shows how much ahead PS5's RDNA 2 and Zen architecture is over PS4 and it's testament to the upgrades we are seeing in the countless BC videos....
It's clear that none of the BC games are maxing PS5 power and features2, even the high rez games are maxing frames to 60fps. Maybe in time Sony can improve it even more....
The majority of games last gen were higher rez on PS4 and also more performant. This means the large majority of BC titles will have a higher rez whilst performing at 60fps on PS5....That's the reality....It's also important to note that the majority of PRO games run better over XBONEX since XBONEX chased higher resolutions over PRO where it could not sustain a performance lead over PRO in these scenarios....This means that for XBONEX games being rendered through BC, Series X has to push these games with higher resolutions and lower frames over PRO, however if Series X still can't push these games at locked 60fps, it just sustains the argument that XBONEX pushed rez too far in many cases, which it did.....The caveat is that, Series X has more power allocated to BC than PS5, since they are using the hypervisor, but in the end PS BC is more impressive based on the vast majority of 1080p games over 900p and a higher pool of quality genre defining titles which also had the best graphics last gen...(GOW, GTS, Tsushima, Days Gone, UC4, LOU2 etc)......and they are all running 60fps if there is no capped framerates...
Self High Five
Member
Don't read too much into it
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AeneaGames
Member
What if the Geometry Engine is linked to PSnow, what if it acts of an advanced emulator for PSone and PS2 games etc
What if the controller has an extra GPU inside and the console uses it when connected using the correct USB port
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Sounds really familiar to things I read somewhere else months ago, if only I could remember where.....
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Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
Garani
Member
No. There is not enough assured bandwidth down to the console. The DVD-ROM had a 5.28MB/s, which means you need a stable 52mb/s internet connection (allowing a 20% overhead). It costs less to stream compressed video.What if the Geometry Engine is linked to PSnow, what if it acts of an advanced emulator for PSone and PS2 games etc
thelastword
Banned
I'm sure they will patch TLG.......Interesting that AC unity may only be running Ryzen 2, 8 cores 1600mhz and 18 CU RDNA 2. Even at those clocks that's much more power than PS4 had, as it's running in GCN mode using the advanced architectural improvements. So it's still amazing that AC unity is running at 900p 60fps 99% of the time minus cutscenes and it's not using PS5 BC mode 3...What's also interesting is that the disc version of AC had higher quality effects, DOF etc....Maybe the reason for the drops in cutscenes...., but of course Ubi did lots of things for parite back in the day, so who knows how these games were coded....
gt_connect
Neo Member
Here it is, it is from a livestream content creator on twitch
Today he is doing the teardown of series S and maybe he will try to put this 1TB ssd from X on Series S
He is live now:
ssd nvme sn530
www.westerndigital.com
Today he is doing the teardown of series S and maybe he will try to put this 1TB ssd from X on Series S
He is live now:
ssd nvme sn530
PC SN530 NVMe SSD | Western Digital Store
The Western Digital PC SN530 NVMe™ SSD is designed for a multitude of applications that require both high performance and low power. The device is not only capable of more than three times the read speed over SATA SSDs, but further optimizes the low power consumption level to a mere 5mW...
Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
AC Unity Disk version was running to 20FPS on PS4
jonnyp
Member
Still don't understand why that matters or why that is a problem.
Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
PS5 DualSense Controller Teardown: Controller Evolution
I don't think that's humanly possible. I mean, if the two hands belong to the same person...that would be disturbing. Like a paradox.
thelastword
Banned
Yes and it had better effects, which was patched out later. Clearly using BC on that version requires more power...
Garani
Member
For 2 reasons:
1) by staying true to the current PC lower denominator, there is no real advancement. They are mimicking a PC and that's it.
2) MS has advertised the disk as a Gen4 custom. In the end is a Gen3 Off-the-shelf. The good news is that if you need to change it, as long ad you get the form factor right, you can buy a spare.
GoPats1
Neo Member
Mr Moose
Member
The internal SSD is PCIe 3.0 2.4GBs, external is apparently 4.0.Okay so does the XSX have an internal pcie gen 3 ssd or is the console itself pcie gen 3 only
Garani
Member
Okay so does the XSX have an internal pcie gen 3 ssd or is the console itself pcie gen 3 only
Probably just the drive: after all it meets the speed advertised.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
So there it is, no RT on Demon's Souls. They removed the RT mention from the blog, it seems someone screwed it up when writing this entry. But as we have seen, the game doesn't really need it to look impressive.
blog.playstation.com
Worldwide Studios: First look at 9 new PS5 games
First details coming out of today’s PlayStation 5 event
blog.playstation.com
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Valued Gamer
Banned
Looks like the fanboys are having their final flurry of warz until the consoles will be released and comparisons can be made on games like Watch Dogs, AC:V etc.
Not to much longer guys until reality hits one side or the other.
Not to much longer guys until reality hits one side or the other.
Handy Fake
Member
You keeping okay? How you doing?This is not gonna age well
HAL-01
Member
Interesting. I guess that Gavin Moore guy was still under the impression that they were using some form of ray tracing when he gave the first interview, and someone from bluepoint corrected him right afterSo there it is, no RT on Demon's Souls. They removed the RT mention from the blog, it seems someone screwed it up when writing this entry. But as we have seen, the game doesn't really need it to look impressive.
Worldwide Studios: First look at 9 new PS5 games
First details coming out of today’s PlayStation 5 event
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