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|OT| Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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its funny how narrative is changing now that sony is on board lol before it was the end of all gaming and innovation 😂

i never liked crossgen and i still dont, its pathetic how people change their mind based on what their favourite brand does, it holds games back there is no question about that (and no not just graphically)
Crossgen sucks ass.
 

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Hello hello people I’m finally BACK in this thread!!!!!

There were lots of news that just came out in the last 24 hours, oh man, Demon Souls looks phenomenal, it looks like a CGI render, looks too good!!

Also PS5 games like Horizon and Spider Man MM are coming to PS4 which isn’t good to be honest, and the new God of War!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
 

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I dont know who that is. I made those

Ah ok sorry. Kleegamefan was one of the early insiders (also used to work in the industry) who provided leaks over at the 'other place'. I believe the understanding was that he had seen the specs sheet for PS5/XSX and was slowly dripfeeding the info with others. This was around November/December last year where he was more known because of the info. Did a self request ban early in the new year and that was it.
 
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i mean its 120 FPS ! Just looks worse than PS3 tittle :D
I will stick with 30 FPS on everything like always. If it stable i don't mind.
Shhh. Someone asked who would bother with the 4k30 option for DMC5SE, and I was thinking to myself, "If I buy the game, I'm legit going to compare that mode to the 1080p60 option, and see which one looks better." I'm not a 60fps fanatic. On PC, I always try to find the best graphics settings I can fit into a 30+fps framerate. Framerate just needs to be stable 30+ for me to be happy. Only a few game genres require 60 IMO.
 

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Okay, I had an entire day to process yesterday's news ... so here I go:

The time of true exclusives is coming to an end. Sony and Microsoft want your money, and it seems they both decided that selling you consoles isn't the best way. They decided to sell you games and services to increase their revenue. MS is going for a subscription model (and just barely supporting the notion of you actually buying their games), while Sony is double-dipping on subscriptions as well as you actually buying their games and owning them (only digitally eventually).

Both will be giving you a choice: Do you wish to spend a thousand bucks and then some to play their games on a PC, or will you pay a mere 400$-600$ fee in order to buy a gaming platform which will give you access to said games but will restrict you to their eco-system? Choice is yours.

While for the time being it sucks that PS5 and XSX games have to run on PC HDDs, eventually they'll stop using them for games altogether and all games will require SSDs to play.

PlayStation and X-Box fans will eventually evolve into Sony and Microsoft fans, becoming loyal to the company logo and the developing teams behind them, rather than the boxes themselves (which will merely devolve into a means to an end). 'I love PlayStation' will turn into 'I love Sony games'.

Sony's PR was shady and suspicious. For the life of me I cannot imagine that someone fucked up so bad in the Demon's Souls trailer editing. Human error my ass - this isn't butterfingers or mismanaging your words ... someone at Sony actually made a picture of the Demon's Souls logo and then typed that the game is coming to PC and eventually to 'other consoles'. Whether that was the initial plan, Sony changed their mind and decided to end up making it a PS5-only game, or whether Jim Ryan and Herman Hultz are slowing and cautiously trying to make the PS owners more accustomed to the idea that the PS exclusives will all end up being console exclusives until they finally and bluntly admit it will be just that ... I don't know yet.

What I do know is that while I love games and I love most of the stuff Sony, MS and Nintendo are selling us, I cannot take their word at face value any more. Sony, you gave your fans the impression that SM Miles Morales is a PS5 exclusive until it was tweeted at the last second that it's a cross-gen title. Same thing will Horizon FW. The mere fact that you did it in a 'didn't you read the fine print, son?' kind of way is infuriating, dishonest and makes you no better than Spencer. While I do not think that Sony is on the same level of game quality with MS (my bias exists for a reason), I no longer trust the company to keep their word and I no longer take anything they post at face value until the game is released and reviewed.

And yeah, I think that DS will eventually come to PC. I don't mind it - the game wasn't made with an SSD in mind and it's made in a way to perfectly create loading screens when need be.

Ironically, I don't think that it'll be Sony who will show what the SSD can do - I think it'll a third party developer who will consciously make a PS5 exclusive, ignoring the PC market altogether.

I leave the conference happier than ever with the gameplay that I've seen, but I am really disappointed with Sony's dishonesty and cowardliness in being transparent with what they intended to do with their new console's launch window. I do not question the reasons they decided to make SM MM and H FW PS4-PS5 cross gen titles, but I do know that the games won't be near as impressive as we thought they would be. It won't be Craig levels of incompetence, but it will be a narrow, constrained vision.

Well, patience for a couple of years until both Sony and MS roll out the true next-gen games.
two years is very optimistic. games take 4-5 years to make nowadays. horizon 2 is basically a 4.5 year title and its cross gen. a next gen title could take another 6 years. dont expect GG to have horizon 3 ready until 2025 at the latest.

same goes for all the devs who are releasing games in the first year. GT7 looked cross gen as fuck and gaf jumped down my throat for calling it underwhelming in June. But insomniac, PD, Bluepoint, SSM and GG are launching cross gen games in the first year. they will 3-4 years minimum to make a real next gen game. thats 2024-2025. there is a reason why he said 3-4 and why Phil said 2-3. they are doing damage control and real numbers are far worse.

Notice how there is ZERO confirmation on whether GoW will be a PS5 only title. Same playbook as Spiderman Miles from earlier this year.
 
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Hello hello people I’m finally BACK in this thread!!!!!

There were lots of news that just came out in the last 24 hours, oh man, Demon Souls looks phenomenal, it looks like a CGI render, looks too good!!

Also PS5 games like Horizon and Spider Man MM are coming to PS4 which isn’t good to be honest, and the new God of War!! ❤❤❤❤

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU????????????


























Welcome back, hugs :goog_halo:
 

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Anyone else find it odd that Sony is Advertising 8K and MS are not?

 

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two years is very optimistic. games take 4-5 years to make nowadays. horizon 2 is basically a 4.5 year title and its cross gen. a next gen title could take another 6 years.
Dude, what the fuck are you talking about? Do you actually believe we'll see true PS5/XSX games SIX YEARS FROM NOW? Near the END of the PS5/XSX lifespan? Are you high?
 
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A bit too late to the party but hey, actually had a busy day at work.

- showcase yesterday = awesome
- FF16 exclusive is a bombshell
- Spider Man looks amazing
- Demon's Souls gave me an erection
- GOW2 2021 :messenger_smiling_hearts:
- crossgen titles still, fuck that shit, cut the umbilical cord already
- ps plus with a ton of top tier games is amazing, such a welcome card for new ps users
- pre order? done and paid for :)
- pissed i have to wait 1 week longer than some people though, fucking bullshit really... will be a painful week
- something tells me we still have more to see before launch :messenger_winking:
 

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two years is very optimistic. games take 4-5 years to make nowadays. horizon 2 is basically a 4.5 year title and its cross gen. a next gen title could take another 6 years. dont expect GG to have horizon 3 ready until 2025 at the latest.

same goes for all the devs who are releasing games in the first year. GT7 looked cross gen as fuck and gaf jumped down my throat for calling it underwhelming in June. But insomniac, PD, Bluepoint, SSM and GG are launching cross gen games in the first year. they will 3-4 years minimum to make a real next gen game. thats 2024-2025. there is a reason why he said 3-4 and why Phil said 2-3. they are doing damage control and real numbers are far worse.

Notice how there is ZERO confirmation on whether GoW will be a PS5 only title. Same playbook as Spiderman Miles from earlier this year.
Demon's Souls is not cross gen. Neither is God of War, or GT7. Thats unconfirmed.

They said 3-4 years of PS4 support for things like PSN and PS Plus. The general console support. Not 1st party games. They do this for every console generation.
 
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its funny how narrative is changing now that sony is on board lol before it was the end of all gaming and innovation 😂

i never liked crossgen and i still dont, its pathetic how people change their mind based on what their favourite brand does, it holds games back there is no question about that (and no not just graphically)
I believe that guy is an Xbox fan.
 
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I am not reading that, after seeing you apologize to TheGreatWhiteShark TheGreatWhiteShark your off my xmas list.



I don't like cancel culture but I DO NOW.
what do you want fishy?
who apologized to me? nikolaidis? I dont think he is smart enough to do that. I thought he might be smart, but I was wrong.
he is barely smarter that you, and thats a very low low loooow low bar ;ΡΡρρρρΡρρρΡΡ
 
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Dude, what the fuck are you talking about? Do you actually believe we'll see true PS5/XSX games SIX YEARS FROM NOW? Near the END of the PS5/XSX lifespan? Are you high?
Do the math yourself. How do you suppose PD, SSM, GG, Bluepoint, Insomniac and GG will ship games in 2021 and late 2020 and get next gen games out before 2025?

Again, Horizon started dev in 2017 February. its likely a fall 2021 title. thats 4.5 years. Do the math.

If their current gen games are taking 4.5 and they all begin dev on their next gen games in 2021 then we are looking at 2025.

it's simple math.

ND, Sucker Punch and Sony bend are the only other AAA devs left and they just shipped games this year and last. 4.5 + 2019 = 2023, 4.5 + 2020 = 2024 for ND and Sucker Punch and that assuming Jim Ryan didnt have them working on cross gen games which they most likely are since he said the 3-4 years is how long they will support the PS4 community without leaving them behind.
 

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what do you want fishy?
who apologized to me? nikolaidis? I dont think he is smart enough to do that. I thought he might be smart, but I was wrong.
he is barely smarter that you, and thats a very low low loooow low bar ;ΡΡρρρρΡρρρΡΡ


Up late i see, trying to secure that PS5, come on, show us that receipt, you know your itching to do it.

Naughty little shark, you can deny it all you want, we all know. :messenger_grinning:
 
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PHONIE MATT TO THE RESCUE :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Really funny how he has seen a game on xbox, as he was certifying to people a little while ago that SERIES S DOES NOT EXIST :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:
I have said many times already, for those of you that take such PHONIES as sources, around the corner only disappointment awaits for you.
Even our resident goldfish, sircaw sircaw has better memory than some people :messenger_squinting_tongue::messenger_heart:
 

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Oh. my. God.

This video is actually a day old, I wonder why no one created a thread to flex about it? Or everyone was too busy concern trolling.

Jfc, I appreciate they’re giving options but where do you draw a line? It legit looks like PS3/360 era game. You pause the video and it looks like the textures haven’t loaded but actually its a trade off for higher frames.

There were 2 threads about it yesterday and yeah most of us were making fun of the game because it looks like trash advertising for a next gen console, on par with Craig.
 
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nah its great for shooters. a lot of times im playing a shooter like warzone and a single player game at the same time. when my friends get on, the last thing i want to do is close out my session and start another game.

4 games is probably overkill but should save some time regardless.
 
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Up late i see, trying to secure that PS5, come on, show us that receipt, you know your itching to do it.

Naughty little shark, you can deny it all you want, we all know. :messenger_grinning:
I have already told you, I have no need for preorders. two good friends of mine work at sony here (remember what I told you about demon's?) , they will fetch for me, and probably a couple of days before retail.
 

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PHONIE MATT TO THE RESCUE :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Really funny how he has seen a game on xbox, as he was certifying to people a little while ago that SERIES S DOES NOT EXIST :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:
I have said many times already, for those of you that take such PHONIES as sources, around the corner only disappointment awaits for you.
Even our resident goldfish, sircaw sircaw has better memory than some people :messenger_squinting_tongue::messenger_heart:

He really gets under your skin.

nah its great for shooters. a lot of times im playing a shooter like warzone and a single player game at the same time. when my friends get on, the last thing i want to do is close out my session and start another game.

4 games is probably overkill but should save some time regardless.

Can I just have my joke :messenger_winking_tongue:

Yes, it's a nice feature and I would use it for similar reasons.
 
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Do the math yourself. How do you suppose PD, SSM, GG, Bluepoint, Insomniac and GG will ship games in 2021 and late 2020 and get next gen games out before 2025?

Again, Horizon started dev in 2017 February. its likely a fall 2021 title. thats 4.5 years. Do the math.

If their current gen games are taking 4.5 and they all begin dev on their next gen games in 2021 then we are looking at 2025.

it's simple math.

ND, Sucker Punch and Sony bend are the only other AAA devs left and they just shipped games this year and last. 4.5 + 2019 = 2023, 4.5 + 2020 = 2024 for ND and Sucker Punch and that assuming Jim Ryan didnt have them working on cross gen games which they most likely are since he said the 3-4 years is how long they will support the PS4 community without leaving them behind.
Devs work on multiple projects simultaneously. NRS is working on both mk and injustice games simultaneously, for example.
 

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He does not understand PC gamers at all. Bringing those games to the pc just cements them in their belief the rest of the games will come eventually. He is doing the opposite of what he wants lol.

not only that, but they get cracked and sell like shit, so they don't even bring-in extra cash for sony. PC aint the way to go.
 
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This is a joke right, i mean it looks like Quasimodo after being hit by a bus, then it reversed back over him.
There is no way this is legit.
From the game's own youtube channel, it's just... YIKES :messenger_hushed:
Don't know why Microsoft would allow this, they seem to have no quality control at all. Unless... these are actual limitations of their "nextgen" system that they're completely fine with.
 

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I have already told you, I have no need for preorders. two good friends of mine work at sony here (remember what I told you about demon's?) , they will fetch for me, and probably a couple of days before retail.

Is one of those friends Dusk Golem, i can actually see that being a reality. :messenger_grimmacing_
 

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what do you want fishy?
who apologized to me? nikolaidis? I dont think he is smart enough to do that. I thought he might be smart, but I was wrong.
he is barely smarter that you, and thats a very low low loooow low bar ;ΡΡρρρρΡρρρΡΡ
Why do people keep mispelling ny name as if I am the fucking Governator?
 
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From the game's own youtube channel, it's just... YIKES :messenger_hushed:
Don't know why Microsoft would allow this, they seem to have no quality control at all. Unless... these are actual limitations of their "nextgen" system that they're completely fine with.

Its horrific, how can they allow this, who is running that company.

drop the 120fps bullshit and stay at 60, Jesus, so desperate to chase numbers that don't matter.
 

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This is a joke right, i mean it looks like Quasimodo after being hit by a bus, then it reversed back over him.
There is no way this is legit.

It's absolutely legit. Watch the video. The high quality assets are the car and what you most prominently see. It's the background, etc. that is much lower quality. Anyone who thought that they'd see 120fps with high quality and perfect details was smoking crack. There have to be compromises, ESPECIALLY on something like the Series S. But I'd expect pretty much the same thing on PS5 and XSX. 120fps is a HUGE ask for the hardware. Really, if you watch the video, it doesn't look bad. It's when you freeze frame and look at those background details that you really notice the lower quality visuals.