Is the Xbox Series X repeating Sony’s biggest mistake?
The Xbox Series X’s use of proprietary storage smells strongly of Sony's brilliant-but-doomed handheldswww.wired.co.uk
This has already happened once: the fall of consoles caused by Atari. Fortunately, Nintendo stepped up and saved the industry. Funny thing, you can't even bury digital copies of shitty games in a landslide.
The number of items DMA'ing on these half-duplex memory setups (256bit for PS5 and 192bit or 320bit for xsX) with lots and lots of isochronous traffic - that cares more about getting access than size of bandwidth -will be far more complex than the narrative of XsX like PC wins. In reality this is a highly complex communication issue with lots of lots of bandwidth wastage and critical path traffic stalling other communication. Typically simpler wins out in throughput.
PlayStation exclusives are more numerous, varied, and imaginative than those of any other platform, which makes them more luring than Xbox's offerings. All Xbox has are Halo and Geaes if War; otherwise, it's just a multiplatform machine, and guess what? Multiplatform games can be played on PlayStation. A counter argument could be that Microsoft has bought 15 new development studios, but their track records don't match those of Sony's first-party studios; also, I've read that they're going to make mostly double-A and indie-quality games. Finally, I have a PC, so Xbox is redundant.
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Both Zen 2 CPU and RDNA GPU has large multi-MB caches to minimize context switch overheads with the memory controllers.
Small break from gaming
crunching has nothing to do with ease of programming, is simple bad time management 99% of time.
Actually bad programming CAN be related with crunching. Thats not mean 'crunching' is created by bad programming, just one of the reasons, not the main or unique reason.
more or less, crunching is primary done because you have tight time windows or because you tried to chew more than you can manage. Bad programming can lead to loss of time to rewrite something but considering that nearly every studio nowadays uses a varierty of 3rd party tools or engines, it's not the problem of bad programming it's the problem of bad programmers. Crunching come often as a form of toxic studio culture (and nd seems likely) especially in part of the world where unions are not a reality, i can't imagine work times in the numerous chinese studios considering nearly every big player outsource arts to them. As i said it's the not the problem of easy of programming per se (this impact only the first part of the project, before you get the hang of the machine) it's about time, because throwing people at a problem doesn't always resolve it quicker (9 woman can't make a baby in 1 month). Sorry for my english btw, not a native speaker
Why put out anf xsx then? Seems like its an xbox OneX remastered.
One thing is sure: he has a good dealer.I mean...
Looks promising but i don't trust ubisoft anymore they always lie with these trailers
While time to triangle is lower (time to create an engine that takes advantage of the hardware) the bigger scope and more detailed visuals will take more time as well. I expect same if not slightly longer dev times for AAA gamesSo, what about this one :
The GPU has reduced the “time-to-triangle” from PS4’s 1-2 months to less than a month.
Can we expect faster game development or making bigger games for less amount of time?
more or less, crunching is primary done because you have tight time windows or because you tried to chew more than you can manage. Bad programming can lead to loss of time to rewrite something but considering that nearly every studio nowadays uses a varierty of 3rd party tools or engines, it's not the problem of bad programming it's the problem of bad programmers. Crunching come often as a form of toxic studio culture (and nd seems likely) especially in part of the world where unions are not a reality, i can't imagine work times in the numerous chinese studios considering nearly every big player outsource arts to them. As i said it's the not the problem of easy of programming per se (this impact only the first part of the project, before you get the hang of the machine) it's about time, because throwing people at a problem doesn't always resolve it quicker (9 woman can't make a baby in 1 month). Sorry for my english btw, not a native speaker
If we consider an RTX 2070 Super vs a 2080 TI we have an average of 20-30 fps more at least as far as I know, and at 1080 p. If someone has others benchmarks let me know.I mean...
Fixed your factually wrong statement
You're right, I apologise. I was taking my quarantine frustration and unfairly venting it here.
I'll just excuse myself from this thread for awhile.
Be safe, and take the greatest of care.
I could've sworn though when the dev's got used to the PS3 machine at the end of cycle that the games like Last of Us were killing 360 in fidelity. Also Just like Blu Ray, I bet a fast SSD will be the standard for this and after next generation PC's and consoles. Everyone will adopt Sony's SSD implementation if it works as it is supposed to. Dont count the pioneers of the same disc drive that are in every Xbox. Hell MS from what I've read had to scramble to get their SSD plan right due to possibly being surprised by Sony on that front. I bet they both had to adjust to each other once they caught wind. Sony with TF change (thanks AMD leaker) and MS with SSD speed changes.I remember the Rage comparisons between 360 and PS3. Blu-Ray ended up being the savior for PS3
Johnny Carmack: "...PS3 version will look slightly better due to more storage space for high-resolution textures, thanks to Blu-ray Disc’s 50GB capacity. “All of the key scenes, the things anyone is going to take a screenshot of are going to look exactly the same on both platforms. They’ll get the high-quality compression,” said Carmack. “But if you go into some areas in the wasteland, like behind a fence where nobody will typically go and explore, this is where the 360 version may look a little blurry compared to the PS3.”
AMD is going to release some seriously powerful GPUs, Mr. Anderson...
Oh lord his Twitter fingers don't know shitI mean...
Since RDNA delivers essentially same performance per tflop as Turing wouldn't that put PS5 at RTX2080 level
RTX 2070S | 9TF |
RTX 2080 | 10TF |
PS5 | 10-10.28TF |
RTX 2080S | 11.15TF |
SEX | 12.1TF |
RTX 2080 Ti | 13.45 TF |
Because I remember the difference was somewhat comparable and I was wrong by a long shot, the difference in TFs is around double compared to that of PS5 and SeX, either way 40-50 fps are an absurd hyperbole. By GPU alone 10 fps should be far more reasonable and it's really nothing that's can't be scaled with few things.
Old comment by Cerny, about console costing "a bit more" but for good reasons, hints at $449, I'd say.
Yes, of course RDNA2 should put PS5 GPU over a GPU like the 2070 S, at least in theory.
You didn't use real-life average clock speed for Turings
My gaming PC's GPU
Looking good in the United States. I want to see how the next 2 days go. Exponential growth curve broke. We had a 29 percent increase in cases on 3/26 and only 8.5 percent 3/27. Actual number of cases is 4 - 7 times higher, but we are not antibody testing so we miss mild or asymptomatic cases that are recovered. I’m an integrated med doc for the DOD, I get updated non-stop.
I would like to know what are the averages for a 2070 S at this point.My gaming PC's GPU
MSI RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio has 1926 Mhz average which is ~16.76 TFLOPSMSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio 11 GB Review
MSI's flagship graphics card for now, the Gaming X Trio combines NVIDIA's fastest GPU, the RTX 2080 Ti, with the highest factory-overclocked speed available, and some serious electrical muscle to keep it ticking. You could just consider this a halo product and skip the next Titan.www.techpowerup.com
I don't buy reference cards.
Isn't BCPack is already accounted for in the 4.8gb/s and 6.0gb/s figures?I'll bite.
Math: File to load / SSD IO / compression ratio.
For XSX, 2GB / 2.4 / 1.92= 0.43 seconds (general)
For XSX, 2GB / 2.4 / 2.5 = 0.33 seconds (textures target, BCpack's "more than 6GB/s")
I mean...
I think it is. That's why xsx raw speed is 2.4gbps and compressed is 4.8(double of ) and max controller limit is 6gbps. While PS5 raw speed is 5.5gbps and compressed is usually 8-9gbps(not double of raw speed) with 22gbps if the data is "well compressed".
