Agnostic2020
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It seems you have grown a personal grudge from 2013 .let it go man . Its time to let it heal
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Good morning fellow nerds its going to be a great day for us.
I see Jason already throwing a wet blanket on us.
Lets do this thing.
I see Jason already throwing a wet blanket on us.
Lets do this thing.
44alltheway
Member
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Let’s also not forget that right now there is a surge of fans moaning about 13.bollock speeds.
Jason could be saying it’s more like 12.4, as Osiris said, and that would upset a shit load of people too expecting the next coming of Christ.
So that tweet can still be read in any which way.
Jason could be saying it’s more like 12.4, as Osiris said, and that would upset a shit load of people too expecting the next coming of Christ.
So that tweet can still be read in any which way.
it_wasn't_me
Banned
Btw. he also said this yesterday. So, he knows shit.
ethomaz
Banned
PS fans are fine with not having the edge in power.
The 2013 was a bit different PS4 had the edge and it was $100 cheaper.
Price played a big role.
11.x TFs will make Xbox fans pee on their paints.
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Stuart360
Member
How would it?. The backtracking has already started and we dont even have specs yet. This very thread is 80% posts from both sides arguing over which will be more powerful, and paranoid desperation over having no confirmation. The gifs and pics since yesterday already celebrating a PS5 'win', have been endless.
If PS5 ends up more powerful, you will all be celebrating like you have won the lottery, so dont start the salty backtracking and revisionist history if it ends up less powerful.
Take it on the chin, like Xbox fans had to this gen. This stuff goes in cycles.
THEAP99
Banned
Anyone who ever thought full BC was a possibility weren’t smart imo
I think it’s because of the elite controller why they can’t change or add too much.
How would it look if the regular Xbox controller has more new features than their $200 one? A more expensive controller lacking things a $70 controller has would make no sense.
MS is kind of stuck with the simple base controller design and features because of the premium elite.
squarealex
Member
9Tf = sad for me.
11 = Sad for who ? Ghitub team I think.
11 = Sad for who ? Ghitub team I think.
M-V2
Member
He is debunking himself, he said both consoles are aiming above Stadia numbers (10.7tf) then he said both have similar specs & both are aiming to be more powerful than rtx2080, yesterday he said he don't know about the Teraflops in the PS5 & now he is saying Otherwise lol
VanSiriusGabriel
Member
I really don't care about a single number. Problem is, most people have like ZERO idea of all of this, they would take that single number and doing console war about 0.4 TF or whatever. The irony is that games could still perform better or equal on PS5, yet it could take a while before this shit stop.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
That was one fucked up time. I sat there with the wife and she turned to me and said “wait, it’s not as good as the playstation, and it’s more expensive? What’s the catch?”
The catch my dear was that hardly working bag of bollocks decapitated Johnny five under the tv...
Ugh... what a bad time to be an Xbox fan that was... BUT YOU CAN WATCH SPORTS.
THEAP99
Banned
because people all over twitter and such have been riding with 9.2tf for months now. Anything in the double digits is a win IMO for team non-github and PlayStation
ethomaz
Banned
Because Xbox fans created the 9TFs narrative.
In this own thread all PS fans was never mad with 11.x TFs.
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T-I-N-M-A-N dX
Member
Damn I’m gonna have to make a lot of popcorn this shits gonna pop off. Hopefully it’s not a ghost town around here 
FrozenFlame
Member
Depends of who you're talking.
Fans, sure.
Fanboys, nah.
And from all that have been hinted, i assume that this time around, power and price will be similar. Not that it's a bad thing for Sony, they clearly have the upper hand with a bigger fan base and brand name.
pasterpl
Member
Reindeer
Member
It could be 10.8 and he would still be right on both.
VanSiriusGabriel
Member
He could not know the exact number and still say that is 10.7+
SeX could be more powerfull yet PS5 could still be superior to an RTX 2080.
Now he's simply saying that some fanboys will not be happy, which could mean PS5 is 11.8 and call it a day for all we know.
Stuart360
Member
They used leaked data. I mean i didnt believe it as i couldnt see that big a gap, i still dont (i think PS5 will be in the 11-13tf range), but its not like they used some Xbox Youtuber for the info, they used AMD leaks.
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Agnostic2020
Member
Judd Nelson
Neo Member
Smells like 9TF PS5. Yikes.
VanSiriusGabriel
Member
Maybe, but just maybe, if he is tweeting a different thing the next day it's because NOW he knows?
Just saying, eh. Otherwise he isn't fake, he stright up has Alzheimer. You all read into it too much.
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MARTYWOLF
Member
elcapitano
Member
I'll be very disappointed not it's 9 or even low 10 TF. Not cause I'm a console warrior but because my favourite games are historically cony games and I'd like to play them in the bets possible quality and 9 or 10 TF isn't that.
ethomaz
Banned
Actually the narrative was created in a Xbox discord without have any ideia of the “leaked” data means... the data was very old and just after they choose to use it as PS5 9TFs narrative the talk started months after the “leak”.
Even today there are some trying hard to make GitHub data to fit a more powerful PS5 because the data is basically unless for the intent they wanted and can means anything.
Even for Xbox the data was not accurate.
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pasterpl
Member
Like many people said here already, FLOPS ARE NOT THE MAIN FACTOR he might be right about flops being low, but the whole system might still be very powerful and excite developers. It is only SDF warriors that are concerned with flops and nothing else.
Dargor
Member
I think you are seeing what you want to see. Most people on the sony side have said that they dont care about the power edge, they are happy with 11.6.
They only rose against the 9.2 number because that is a big difference that will actually affect how games look.
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Reindeer
Member
I don't think people would be disappointed with 11 tflops, so I hope it doesn't mean much less than that.
gooner4life_uk
Member
PS5 is 13.3Teraflops, the only way it isn't is if they reduce clocks in which case it will still be 12. something and the reduced clocks are because the cooling solution was too expensive or not as effective as promised. That is fact.
T
Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
Lmao he literally said yesterday he doesn't know the PS5 teraflop number and so for "playstation console warriors sad" wasn't it Xbox fanboys who start pushing and trolling people with TF power narrative ever since Github? Jason is off his rocker lol
Reindeer
Member
Tflops will matter, especially when it comes to Ray Tracing.
pasterpl
Member
Fact you say? Based on what?
Faithless83
Banned
That would make a lot of sense, right? LOLFor e.g. Lack of the BC would be a differentiator
More importantly,
OsirisBlack
,
BGs
and
HeisenbergFX4
seem excited and will likely be able to talk more about what they heard now.
Reindeer
Member
Tales from my Arse
it_wasn't_me
Banned
Maybe he doesn't know exact TF numbers for PS5, but people forgot ( and probably you too ) what he said 3 months ago :
Jason Schreier in Kotaku Podcast: "Next-gen consoles are more powerful than an RTX 2080...I am pretty sure but don't hold me accountable." (5 Dec 2019)
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pasterpl
Member
Maybe o'dium (or other dev on here) can confirm, but with hardware-accelerated ray tracing the GPU flops should not matter that much when it comes down to getting RT to work?
Evilms
Banned
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
For old times sake, because pretty soonhe truth will set you free...
Is just fun comrade yes?
Is just fun comrade yes?
FrozenFlame
Member
I mean, something between 10.7tf and 12 tf and he's correct, right? Besides, i do believe he's not the only one that mentioned it's not only about tf's.
Nonetheless, it's the BC part that speaks volumes. You can argue that tf numbers change, so, it's easy to understand why the numbers were incorrect. But the lack of BC? Either he has access to classified info that Jason sources don't or he lied, plain and simple.
Also, he never explained what "Project Infinity" was, which made me believe that he was just ridding along the Cboat hint.
Dodkrake
Banned
I'll stand firm:
Both consoles are basically twins, with minor differences. I don't really care if any of them has a GPU edge of ~10% (last gen was more than 30%) and will deliver my final prediction:
52 or 54 CU's
11.2TF
1TB SSD (faster than Xbox)
"Regular" console form factor
20GB RAM (16GB dedicated, 4GB slower for system)
At the very least I believe 10.8TF, at most 13.2TF (not gonna happen).
Both consoles are basically twins, with minor differences. I don't really care if any of them has a GPU edge of ~10% (last gen was more than 30%) and will deliver my final prediction:
52 or 54 CU's
11.2TF
1TB SSD (faster than Xbox)
"Regular" console form factor
20GB RAM (16GB dedicated, 4GB slower for system)
At the very least I believe 10.8TF, at most 13.2TF (not gonna happen).
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