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[Schmick]

no, I don't. may have to get it to give this a try, no good deals out there for buying it.

You won't see many deals for MS games.

You'll get to try for a £1 with GP!

 

[Stuart360]

Anyone know what date the performance patch for PC comes out?, i know its sometime now.

 

[Kagey K]

Anyone know what date the performance patch for PC comes out?, i know its sometime now.

Same a day as console launch.

 

[Stuart360]

Same a day as console launch.

Thats the 27th i think right?

 

[Kagey K]

Thats the 27th i think right?

Yeah Tues.

 

[Wulfer]

MS is superior on the road. Their on there way to owning the RPG's and now they own the skies. Online gaming is clearly a strength. What genre should MS tackle next? I bought the Deluxe Premium of MFS it's a dream come true to a wannbe pilot!

 

[phil_t98]

Same bullshit as the Forza Horizon games, husks waiting to be filled with dlc, the dlc is where all the fun shit is.

Have you even played the game? The dlc is like a separate game on a different island.

 

[twilo99]

series s holding back next gen big time

hitting 60fps with VRR?



I don't see an FPS counter on the video so not buying it but if its true there is something else going on here

 

[phil_t98]

series s holding back next gen big time

hitting 60fps with VRR?



I don't see an FPS counter on the video so not buying it but if its true there is something else going on here

Something else as in?

 

[Schmick]

Something else as in?

Weren't we told by the developers that with VRR we could expect fps in the 40 range? They never mentioned 60.

 

[Banjo64]

Something else as in?

 

[DarkMage619]

series s holding back next gen big time

hitting 60fps with VRR?



I don't see an FPS counter on the video so not buying it but if its true there is something else going on here

I am skeptical this game runs at 60fps especially when it is streaming data off the cloud. I'd be happy with a stable 30. I guess we'll see soon.

 

[CrustyBritches]

They said it was 30fps, and that on screens with VRR it's uncapped and can go higher.


It's just being spun to make it seem bigger than it is. Series S is packing a punch and it looks pretty good. There's more limited draw distance, but you have to keep expectations in check FS2020 is a very heavy game.

 

[twilo99]

I am skeptical this game runs at 60fps especially when it is streaming data off the cloud. I'd be happy with a stable 30. I guess we'll see soon.

I don't its running at 60fps, its able to hit 60fps at certain locations when VRR is enabled, which I find a bit strange considering what game we are talking about.

I think they might be helping it along with the cloud thing somehow? But why wouldn't that be the case for PC as well then..

 

[Billbofet]

I have been checking out gameplay vids for this on the Series S (my console), and it's looking really, really, good.
I was able to see my friend's houses/neighborhood in one of the Milwaukee fly-overs. Just incredible. Can't wait.

 

[IbizaPocholo]

When travel was impossible this past year, Jose and João, a father and son from Portugal, found a way to see the world and bond through Microsoft Flight Simulator

Microsoft Flight Simulator is coming to Xbox Series X|S July 27, 2021. Play it day one with Xbox Game Pass.

 

[skneogaf]

Unbelievable to think you can travel the whole planet on a flight simulator that costs £250/$299 machine and it looks this good!

 

[Julius Ibidus]

Unbelievable to think you can travel the whole planet on a flight simulator that costs £250/$299 machine and it looks this good!

that's actually really impressive that it runs it that good.

 

[Shmunter]

30 FPS is perfectly functional for something as mellow as flying

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

So we should have GAF fly together events on certain evenings since we can see who else is in the sky.

Start practicing those Grand Canyon speed runs

 

[nightmare-slain]

i've started my flight around the world now i've got the hang of the game. bought it when it came out on PC but struggled to get into it. i've found my favourite plane which is the Dahmer TBM 930.

i've been doing short flights but feel ready to do longer ones. here is my progress so far (starts at the black dot/Glasgow):

Flights:
1# Glasgow > Prestwick.
2# Prestwick > Aldergrove
3# Aldergrove > Dublin
4# Dublin > Llanbedr
5# Llanbedr > Liverpool
6# Liverpool > Newcastle
7# Newcastle > Leuchars
8# Leuchars > Inverness

the thicker orange path is where i plan to fly next. i want to get out of the UK for now. i was originally planning to fly from Newcastle down towards London and then over the channel to France but headed back up to Scotland. I'll head up from Inverness to the Orkney Islands. I know i've drawn the flight path as going up the coast but i might fly abover the highlands towards Orkney Islands. Next i'll head to Shetland Islands and from then it's my longest flight yet over the North Sea towards Norway. I haven't made up my mind where to go from there...but i'm thinking maybe land at Stavanger and head north up to Trondheim and work my way down to Oslo. I want to explore Norway, Sweden, Finland.

 

[SirTerry-T]

i've started my flight around the world now i've got the hang of the game. bought it when it came out on PC but struggled to get into it. i've found my favourite plane which is the Dahmer TBM 930.

i've been doing short flights but feel ready to do longer ones. here is my progress so far (starts at the black dot/Glasgow):

Flights:
1# Glasgow > Prestwick.
2# Prestwick > Aldergrove
3# Aldergrove > Dublin
4# Dublin > Llanbedr
5# Llanbedr > Liverpool
6# Liverpool > Newcastle
7# Newcastle > Leuchars
8# Leuchars > Inverness

the thicker orange path is where i plan to fly next. i want to get out of the UK for now. i was originally planning to fly from Newcastle down towards London and then over the channel to France but headed back up to Scotland. I'll head up from Inverness to the Orkney Islands. I know i've drawn the flight path as going up the coast but i might fly abover the highlands towards Orkney Islands. Next i'll head to Shetland Islands and from then it's my longest flight yet over the North Sea towards Norway. I haven't made up my mind where to go from there...but i'm thinking maybe land at Stavanger and head north up to Trondheim and work my way down to Oslo. I want to explore Norway, Sweden, Finland.

You haven't tried The Mach Loop in an Airbus A320?!!!?

 

[nightmare-slain]

You haven't tried The Mach Loop in an Airbus A320?!!!?

didn't know what that was but now i know what you're talking about. that sounds fun i want to fly there at some point. if i was still in England i'd fly back over but it'll need to wait. i'm not gonna be back in the UK for a long time yet.

 

[Julius Ibidus]

so i see that this game is on Steam, is there any advantage to buying it there vs the MS store?

 

[nightmare-slain]

so i see that this game is on Steam, is there any advantage to buying it there vs the MS store?

no advantages in terms of the game itself but Steam makes it way more manageable. Downloads are faster and the MS Store is just generally trash. I used to download games from MS but they put bullshit permissions on your drive so if you ever reinstall windows it'll mean having to wipe the entire drive and downloading the entire game again. If you download from Steam you can keep it installed on your drive and just point Steam to it when you're back. Steam is less hassle to deal with.

 

[Julius Ibidus]

no advantages in terms of the game itself but Steam makes it way more manageable. Downloads are faster and the MS Store is just generally trash. I used to download games from on it but they put bullshit permissions on your drive so if you ever reinstall windows it'll mean having to wipe the entire drive and downloading the entire game again. If you download from Steam you can keep it installed on your drive and just point Steam to it when you're back. Steam is less hassle to deal with.

well that makes the decision easier, thanks!

 

[Julius Ibidus]

ok, one last question: does it matter what type of drive i install the game on? do i need to put it on an SSD to run properly?

 

[nightmare-slain]

ok, one last question: does it matter what type of drive i install the game on? do i need to put it on an SSD to run properly?

it doesn't matter in that both HDD + SSD are supported. you can install it on whatever you want but i highly recommend SSD. MS recommends any kind of drive but "ideal" is SSD.

Minimum Spec	Recommended Spec	Ideal Spec
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 1200 Intel i5-4460	Ryzen 5 1500X Intel i5-8400	AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 2700X Intel i7-9800X
GPU	Radeon RX 570 Nvidia GTX 700	Radeon RX 590 Nvidia GTX 970	Radeon VII Nvidia RTX 2080
VRAM	2GB	4GB	8GB
RAM	8GB	16GB	32GB
Storage	150 GB	150 GB	150 GB (SSD)
Minimum OS version	Windows 10 Nov 2019 update (1909)	Windows 10 Nov 2019 update (1909)	Windows 10 Nov 2019 update (1909)

 

[Julius Ibidus]

it doesn't matter in that both HDD + SSD are supported. you can install it on whatever you want but i highly recommend SSD. MS recommends any kind of drive but "ideal" is SSD.

great, thanks!

 

[Negotiator101]

Man I'm so jealous of Xbox owners, this game looks great and the fact that y'all get it day one on game pass.... fecking feckers

Yeah I'm really looking forward to trying it out, probably just chill playing it for a few hours next week.

 

[SirTerry-T]

A useful video for those of us who will be taking to the skies for the first time

 

[Julius Ibidus]

so i'm playing on an Omen 17 2070 off of the SSD. i'm getting this after some making adjustments to target a smooth 30 fps (on the first tutorial level):

will it perform this well on more demanding scenes?

 

[MrFunSocks]

so i'm playing on an Omen 17 2070 off of the SSD. i'm getting this after some making adjustments to target a smooth 30 fps (on the first tutorial level):

will it perform this well on more demanding scenes?

I'd say so. The game that releases on Xbox is vastly more optimized than the current PC release, and PC is getting the optimized version at the same time. There are official videos floating around where they're showing like 30%+ less CPU usage at some of the most demanding areas with the new patch.

 

[Julius Ibidus]

I'd say so. The game that releases on Xbox is vastly more optimized than the current PC release, and PC is getting the optimized version at the same time. There are official videos floating around where they're showing like 30%+ less CPU usage at some of the most demanding areas with the new patch.

30%, wow, that's a huge jump. can't wait to test it.

 

[MrFunSocks]

30%, wow, that's a huge jump. can't wait to test it.

Here's the video btw: Flight Simulator Is Finally Getting A Massive Performance Upgrade (kotaku.com.au)

Towards the end, a shot of Task Manager is revealed, showing massive memory utilisation, a maxed out CPU and 75% utilisation for the GPU, even though the game’s running in 4K.

The latest update is vastly more efficient. Using the same settings, city, time of day and flight path, the same system now uses all of the GPU, memory use is almost halved (~27GB down to 14.5GB) and the CPU is running at about 75% utilisation.

That makes it easier to play Flight Simulator on lower-end rigs while still having other things open, like a Chrome tab or 10. The frame rate is now hovers around 54-60 FPS for most of this test, and all of the stuttering is largely resolved.

Developer Sebastian Wloch estimated, on this system at least, a 20 to 30 FPS improvement. That’s enormous; that’s double in some scenarios. And this is in the worst case scenario for Flight Simulator: frame rates are generally much better in less populated environments, like mountains or the game’s various bush trips.

 

[nemiroff]

so i see that this game is on Steam, is there any advantage to buying it there vs the MS store?

None when I bought the Steam version last year (so that's my disclaimer, I assume it's the same now). The main game doesn't download from Steam. Steam basically only links to a small installer, and the game downloads/updates all of its contents via its own integrated content manager (and thus as far as I can see via their own, but fast servers).

And be aware that if you have an Xbox Series and buy via Steam you probably will not be able to use the Play Anywhere feature.

The only plus for Steam as I see it is that Steam has a refund option.

no advantages in terms of the game itself but Steam makes it way more manageable. Downloads are faster and the MS Store is just generally trash. I used to download games from MS but they put bullshit permissions on your drive so if you ever reinstall windows it'll mean having to wipe the entire drive and downloading the entire game again. If you download from Steam you can keep it installed on your drive and just point Steam to it when you're back. Steam is less hassle to deal with.

That's not entirely true though. The game doesn't use Steam servers to download, but Microsoft's own servers. And the main bulk of the game resides under the "appData" folder on your drive, so you can easily access and copy/paste those files without admin rights to a new drive or folder to avoid redownloading 99% (?) of the game.

And AFAIK if we're talking about the same thing there's no more need to "wipe the drive". IDK, there was a bug in Windows 10 a few years ago where the WindowsApp folder was causing serious issues. Before this was fixed I had the same issue when I moved a non-OS drive that contained a Windows store / WindowsApps folder to a different computer. The result was that Windows refused to boot because the folder was missing.. it was borked.. I spent two days studying and restoring the boot via an elaborate scheme of copy and paste of hidden partition contents.

Looks fantastic on Series X and Series S. Does anyone know if there any Orbx content is available on Xbox?

It says "coming soon" at the end there.. So I guess no right now (?), but yes soon..

 

[Dusktildawn48]

How does the release work on Xbox? Any chance I'll be able to fly (no pun intended) to New Zealand tomorrow and play early?

 

[elliot5]

How does the release work on Xbox? Any chance I'll be able to fly (no pun intended) to New Zealand tomorrow and play early?

Pretty sure it's a global launch so no

 

[captainraincoat]

How does the release work on Xbox? Any chance I'll be able to fly (no pun intended) to New Zealand tomorrow and play early?

i think its all aligned at the same time

 

[avin]

I've arranged things. The appropriate people have been paid, bribed, or otherwise convinced to lower expectations of me in real life. When this launches, I'll be ready.

avin

 

[Dusktildawn48]

Pretty sure it's a global launch so no

i think its all aligned at the same time

Damn.

 

[THE DUCK]

One of the primary reasons why some people are running in here to say it doesn't look good on series s is that it's really looking good enough to validate the very idea of the S - a machine capable of playing newer games at 1080p, which in most cases it does quite well. Yes, there is exceptions, but as more and more 1st party games that optimized hit, it just proves the little s is up to the task if given a little effort. The game is looking great on both, looking foreward to it!

 

[MrFunSocks]

How does the release work on Xbox? Any chance I'll be able to fly (no pun intended) to New Zealand tomorrow and play early?

I'll let you know tomorrow morning as I'm in Australia.

edit: just saw the above tweet, booooo not til the 28th here.

 

[DarkMage619]

One of the primary reasons why some people are running in here to say it doesn't look good on series s is that it's really looking good enough to validate the very idea of the S - a machine capable of playing beer games at 1080p, which in most cases it does quite well. Yes, there is exceptions, but as more and more 1st party games that optimized hit, it just proves the little s is up to the tast if given a little effort. The game is looking great on both, looking foreward to it!

For some reason the XSS gets held to higher standards than systems that cost more. It is so odd. This is just another example of getting the same experience for less money. You are 100% correct.

 

[hlm666]

You haven't tried The Mach Loop in an Airbus A320?!!!?

Now you can do it again in style.

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[chilleverest]

Just a day to go. See you guys soon, next you'll be seeing me on the news /jk

 

[MrFunSocks]

For some reason the XSS gets held to higher standards than systems that cost more. It is so odd. This is just another example of getting the same experience for less money. You are 100% correct.

GAF on Steam Deck: 30fps is fine guys! Games will look AMAZING at 30fps on low settings at 720p! We're not graphics whores, graphics don't matter, neither does framerate over 30fps. 2TF is AMAZING power because it's RDNA2! Games scale easily, you just turn down a few settings and the resolution! SD Cards are fine for playing games from, you don't need any fast IO.
GAF on Series S: Ewww 4TF? That's going to hold the entire industry back! Imagine only playing a game at 1440p60fps or 1080p120fps, what are we, plebs? You can't just change some games settings to low and expect it to run on 4TF!

It's both funny and infuriating to watch.

 

[M1chl]

Damn.

What a weird stuff including Cape Town and not something like Berlin in GMT+2. However now I know that there is a same time here as in CapeTown, thanks MS.

 

[twilo99]

It's both funny and infuriating to watch.

Its mostly funny.

People that say series S will be holding back "next gen" are just ill-informed.

 

[Negotiator101]

This game has the best graphics so far this gen excited to play on my 4K tv this Tuesday

I'd say technically it's the best console release yet but obviously some other games are more visually appealing. I'm gonna play this tomorrow night, hopefully I don't find it boring.