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$1000 minimum.

you can build a gaming PC about as powerful as the Series X for 800 dollars. Ain't no way it's going to be 1000 at the minimum. The Series X probably costs like what, a little over 550 to manufacture. selling these things for 700 dollars would be a certified deal considering the power you get

 

[Dorago]

Get me something that plays any video game I throw at it and doesn't have a bloated low performance operating system. Make games from the microsoft store easily playable on anything, including PS5. Make out of the box peripheral connectivity as good as Steam is with old controllers. Make local saves, a streaming lobby, friend chat, and game sharing peer to peer without having to enter another third party service and wade through the crap. We won't get any of this.

 

[SNG32]

I just don't see how they could make it work, not only from a money standpoint (gaming PC's are expensive) but also from a marketing standpoint.

People who are interested in getting into PC gaming may dip their feet in the prebuilt pool, but after that initial investment it's very likely they'll have to pick up PC building skills (since even prebuilt PC's are relatively modular, and you can swap out parts without buying a whole new prebuilt PC). Which may eventually lend itself to them building their own PC from scratch. Which at that point, say bye-bye to a potential sale of a future Microsoft branded hybrid machine.

They would get Sony Exclusives, More Japanese support over night if they made this decision.

 

[twilo99]

Get me something that plays any video game I throw at it and doesn't have a bloated low performance operating system. Make games from the microsoft store easily playable on anything, including PS5. Make out of the box peripheral connectivity as good as Steam is with old controllers. Make local saves, a streaming lobby, friend chat, and game sharing peer to peer without having to enter another third party service and wade through the crap. We won't get any of this.

The problem is the operating system.. they would have to dual boot into some sort of modified "xbox os" in order to give you that console like experience, which might be fine for some, but probably too jarring for most, unless they have a way of using some sort of VM that can switch between the two systems on the fly, but that is another layer of complexity, more latency, etc. so I don't know.

They've gotten the xbox app on PC in an acceptable state, so.. they could build off of that but I don't see it

 

[Topher]

you can build a gaming PC about as powerful as the Series X for 800 dollars. Ain't no way it's going to be 1000 at the minimum. The Series X probably costs like what, a little over 550 to manufacture. selling these things for 700 dollars would be a certified deal considering the power you get

Have you seen the price of Microsoft hardware when it isn't subsidized? It is very high. I'm telling you.....Microsoft ain't going to bother with any of this for such low margins. But hey, if MS announces a $800 Xbox PC then I'll be the first to call you out and say you were right my man.

 

[acm2000]

He doesnt mean linking the console and pc experience
He means making Xbox a NUC style mini PC that runs full WIndows 11 and can play Steam games.

thats called, a PC

 

[DrFigs]

there's too much competition for pc's and laptops. MS would not make money on it.

 

[GHG]

Sales numbers and CFO comments have even the most ardent fanboys scrambling. Twitter has been on fire, they need good news quick.

Well this line of thinking here really doesn't make sense to me.

Just build/buy a PC and slap a print-out Xbox logo on it if you're so desperate for your gaming hardware to have some affiliation with the brand.

 

[ReBurn]

People in this thread literally asking for Xbox to become a PC, even asking for access to Steam.

Just buy a PC, or one of the many handheld gaming PC's. Having an Xbox logo and Phil Spencer talking about it isn't going to make it better.



You're asking for Microsoft, the owners of Windows to put Linux on one of their devices from the factory? It's never going to happen.

The rest of my answer is in this post above. I don't understand why you guys don't just make yourselves happy. The options for all of this already exist in the market today.

I know it's never going to happen. That's what I said in my first comment about it.

 

[Dorfdad]

It will happen, they just need to agree on the split. First party is a no-brainer, third party like you've mentioned is trickier.

So there is an easy fix for this honestly.

Gamepass on Xbox or pc =x per month
Gamepass on Steam / competing console = x + 3.00 more a month.

The additional 3.00 is a convenience, fee paid to the platform holder.

No ones forcing you to use a third part service Xbox offers it and it’s cheaper. Should you want to use the service on any other platform well there it is.

3.00 a month from each user for other vendors is good money!

 

[scarlet0pimp]

I always thought it would be cool if they could make a laptop with say series s hardware that you could boot into windows or the xbox OS and be able to play xbox games, I'm sure there would be a market for a laptop which could also play games at series s quality. For around 500 600

 

[Torrent of Pork]

I feel like I'm watching the creation of Apple fanboys who argue that the laptop needs to cost $2500 in real time.

 

[Jigsaah]

Reviewing this thread to take notes on who is a couple eggs short of a dozen.

 

[Three]

The only way this would work is if MS sold a standardised desktop PC with a good graphics card/SoC for profit. I'm not sure how other OEMs, Intel, Nvidia, etc would feel about this but it's an interesting idea.

Where I see things going though is the opposite. They will make a cloud hybrid machine, maybe a handheld type.

 

[SHA]

Idk, security patches?

 

[Gojiira]

Nah they should just drop consoles altogether and become a third party publisher…

 

[DenchDeckard]

The bolded is the issue.

Ok so that’s fine but not everyone wants to build one.

I guess I just don't get it. Series consoles are awesome. Then buy a ROG Ally and a pre built pc or build your own. Spec one up on PCSpecialist or Origin PC or something if you don't want to build it. Removes all the headaches.

You then have the best and most robust eco system in my opinion.

Play gamepass games where ever you want and enjoy all the benefits of steam etc, for anything you aren't bothered about playing on your consoles.

Microsoft have been more flexible than anyone and it's awesome imo.

 

[Kazekage1981]

You don't need Xbox branding, marketing and customized hardware anymore, it just needs further unification and slight modification Windows OS. With the rumblings of ARM based CPU/GPU/NPU coming from NVIDIA, AMD, and a decent Snapdragon Elite X processor from Qualcomm, along with powerful x86 APU's coming from AMD (and soon to follow Intel, and perhaps NVIDIA which will most likely be ARM based) this Xbox division in my personal opinion is useless and needs to be dropped. Here are my ideas and suggestions:

-Make Direct X 12 Ultimate API universal for both x86 and ARM
-Make a UI within the Windows OS (x86 and ARM) for gaming (xbox like UI)
-Make SDK/Software dedicated to converting existing x86 game code to native ARM fully optimized/polished (Project Voltara comes to mind along with playing Triple A games on ARM based tablets, laptops)
-MS to make its own console like PC to be part of its surface line up to spark and give OEMs inspiration/incentives to make their own console like PC's you connect to your UHDTV's (no customized hardware here)

They just don't need to be in this 'console war' or 'console space' anymore. With dismal sales of Xbox in Europe, the solutions/suggestions I propose will always guarantee PC gaming sales, reduce costs/time/constraints in gaming development, allow consumers to play games anywhere (imagine playing a game on your desktop only to continue off on it on your ARM tablet).

I personally think it's a blue market strategy, let Sony and Nintendo have at it in the red market console war space. Nobody is going to have what MS is going to have. It's also a win-win for consumers because it gives gamers more choices than ever and enjoy the best of both worlds (consoles from Sony and Nintendo, and console like PC's from MS/AMD/INTEL/QUALCOMM/NVIDIA). There is no need for Microsoft to 'win' the console space or war, because it's not a necessity to be in it anymore.