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Jez Corden: Xbox responsible for Square Enix relationship breakdown
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The Cockatrice
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Punished Miku
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"Something functionally wrong."
That tells me basically nothing.
Like ... I'm open to hearing his explanation of why it's MS fault, but this doesn't even include a reason.
That tells me basically nothing.
Like ... I'm open to hearing his explanation of why it's MS fault, but this doesn't even include a reason.
digoutyoursoul
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Could content sales be a factor , titles not meeting expectations on the platform?
Dick Jones
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Jez doing a late April Fools joke.
Oh Jez! Blaming Xbox for once is hilarious
Oh Jez! Blaming Xbox for once is hilarious
GHG
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If he took Greenberg with him on his travels then, rip.
Duchess
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1. Sake is pretty lethal, especially if you go for a tasting session in the afternoon
EDIT: Well, Crisis Core is on Xbox, so my take is probably wrong.
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This guy is really a joke. The question is more about his own relationship with Xbox than Square Enix.
It's absurd to wake up after like 8 years because of a 2D Final Fantasy compilation when it's been the case for plenty of japanese games including Square Enix since the Xbox One. Yeah those games really don't sell on Xbox and that's it.
It's absurd to wake up after like 8 years because of a 2D Final Fantasy compilation when it's been the case for plenty of japanese games including Square Enix since the Xbox One. Yeah those games really don't sell on Xbox and that's it.
My favorite part was when Xbox fans were convinced games like Octopath 2 (where Switch was the lead platform with the marketing deal) and Harvestella (which only came to Switch and didn’t even come to PS) skipping Xbox was because of Sony moneyI'm going to miss the online narrative that it was Sonys' fault
Rykan
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I would not be surprised if Final Fantasy XIV had a major role in this conflict. SE and MS have been talking about Final Fantasy XIV on Xbox for years now, but it never materialized into anything.
According to Square Enix, it's because Xbox's rules regarding Cross Play on the Xbox platform. It appears Microsoft has a particular rule about players being able to chat with players on other platforms, and they don't allow players to make communities with players on other platforms like guilds, Or free companies, in FFXIV's case.
According to Square Enix, it's because Xbox's rules regarding Cross Play on the Xbox platform. It appears Microsoft has a particular rule about players being able to chat with players on other platforms, and they don't allow players to make communities with players on other platforms like guilds, Or free companies, in FFXIV's case.
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suspicious mind
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I couldnt care less about square after selling their best studios.
Keep their trash off gamepass so we can get good games instead.
Keep their trash off gamepass so we can get good games instead.
For big games it's obviously their fault thoughI'm going to miss the online narrative that it was Sonys' fault
jm89
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Now say it without crying.
vaibhavpisal
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Nothingburger article.
I would like to know more.
I would like to know more.
Nocturno999
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The reason is Sony's money. These people think companies are run by 12 y/o fanboys.
Punished Miku
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The rumors don't really add up to any kind of rational narrative though.
1. MS is bribing congress to investigate timed exclusives preventing competition in Japan
2. Secretly it is all MS fault so MS is bribing people to investigate their own faults?
Just doesn't make a lot of sense to me lol. Like, if someone can actually explain why its their fault with a tiny bit of proof I'm open to hearing it. Also strange that MS hired Crystal Dynamics to work with their teams on Perfect Dark, and then SQEX sold them for cheap lol. Sony has never hired SQEX teams to make a 1st party game. The whole relationship is just bizarre.
Umbasaborne
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Lmfao at the brand warriors coming out on twitter to valiantly defend their favorite multi billion dollar corporation, microsoft. Boot licking knows no bounds. As for the news, i dont doubt it, its not a mystery that jrpg’s do better financially on competing platforms. Microsoft probably has to put forward quite a bit of cash to even get these games on their platform. Maybe they just dont want to do that anymore
Go_Ly_Dow
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-Microsoft wouldn't allow FFXIV on Xbox, Square tried for years to negotiate with them and this is well documented. It's now grown to be one of the most popular MMO's since WoW. So makes complete sense why the relationship soured....
-The vast majority of Squares target audience and fanbase is on Playstation, Nintendo and PC.
-FFXIII and FFXV sold very little on Xbox.
-Easier to develop large scale AAA games for 1-2 platforms than stretch development over Series S/X too.
-Sony is money-hatting them for console exclusives and allowing PC release for these games within 12 months.
-If Sony were to ever acquire them, then probably easier to fight of an legal challenges from Xbox/Microsoft if they haven't released many games on their platform.
Not rocket science why things are the way they are.
-The vast majority of Squares target audience and fanbase is on Playstation, Nintendo and PC.
-FFXIII and FFXV sold very little on Xbox.
-Easier to develop large scale AAA games for 1-2 platforms than stretch development over Series S/X too.
-Sony is money-hatting them for console exclusives and allowing PC release for these games within 12 months.
-If Sony were to ever acquire them, then probably easier to fight of an legal challenges from Xbox/Microsoft if they haven't released many games on their platform.
Not rocket science why things are the way they are.
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suspicious mind
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Why would i cry about square games if i can go out and buy a ps5 right now.
This will blow your tiny mind but some dont care about sony or square exclusives.
First gen i m not buying a ps console anymore because they have nothing that interests me
Umbasaborne
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Seems to me like the initiative was not actually capable of making games themselves, either due to a lack of talent or other political reasons. Microsoft said oh fuck because this wasnt realized until after the game was announced, and contracted another experienced triple a developer to actually make the game so it can actually come out some time in the next decade. To save face they said the two studios were collaborating, because they didnt want to admit that the initiative was a failed, very expensive, experiment.
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GHG
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It's the same old story. The false narrative for so long has been that it's someone else's fault, as with most things that Xbox have struggled with, and now that the truth is being uncovered they don't want to believe it so are resisting the information and are lashing out.
It will take time for them to come to terms with the fact that what they believed for so long isn't the truth.
Chukhopops
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Not sure if it’s true but I wouldn’t waste any money or time trying to fix the relation with SE. Just focus on the good, reliable JP devs like Capcom or Sega.
As for the occasional good AA Square Enix game like SoP or Triangle Strategy:
As for the occasional good AA Square Enix game like SoP or Triangle Strategy:
Punished Miku
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The Initiative clearly fucked up. What I'm saying is hiring a studio like that would imply that MS and SQEX had some kind of deep working relationship (at least the western arm of it).
Topher
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What investigation? As far as I know, members of Congress have just written letters and complained on Microsoft's behalf, but nothing else. Did I miss some news?
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Topher
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
ResilientBanana
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Can't say I've ever played a Square Enix game in the recent years other than Deus Ex, which sucked.
GHG
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Yup I remember square wanting to release 14 on Xbox but MS refused to allow them to make it cross play.
ChorizoPicozo
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Don't make fun of Jez alright? he IS an Xbox analyst.
DaGwaphics
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What is left of Square doesn't make games that Xbox users care much about. MS likely moved their $ elsewhere.
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suspicious mind
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So the ps fanboys were saying square doesnt bring their games to xbox because they dont sell on xbox and the audience just isnt there. Well in my case that is correct. So actually we agree on that.
So its pretty logical that i dont want their games on gamepass either. How hard is that to understand???????
So its pretty logical that i dont want their games on gamepass either. How hard is that to understand???????
begotten
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You are replying to yourself, dude
Holy mental illness.
ChorizoPicozo
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why you triggered so hard?
jm89
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Torrent of Pork
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Are we reacting to Clown Jez who lives in opposite world, or Prophet Jez who's words are gospel truth from on high?
Criticizing Xbox? Prophet Jez then.
Criticizing Xbox? Prophet Jez then.
begotten
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Because he put 500 hours into Marvels Avengers and was the only recorded physical sale of GOTG on XSX.
Luigi Mario
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And then certain people wonder why some Japanese publishers are still skipping an Xbox release.
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