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Infamous: Second Son Review Thread

If it averages about as good as InFamous 2 that's great in my book. I2 was fucking amazing, and I'd love nothing more than Second Son being just as good as that.
 
Completed the game as a good guy currently playing as bad. Its a good game I enjoyed it. My best advice would be to understand that this is Infamous 3. If you go into it thing it's something different you should lower your expectations. It is the best version of infamous and should be played by anyone that enjoys 3rd person action games.


Now with that said on to reviews. I stop reading reviews for just about anything 4 years ago. I do skim through check scores and such but found that I enjoy more games without another persons complete point of view. Mainly because they always either over state something that I may have never noticed or harp on something that is an issue for them personally but again most people won't notice.

The only thing I ask for is consistency. Reviews should have stucture . Don't ignore one games story but nitpick another.

Yes I am going to talk about titan fall in a second son review thread. Sorry. If a game has a specific mode called campaign it should be rated based on other games that have campaign/story modes. And it should be a major factor in a games score.

Now I not saying that every site needs to be the same. But each site should have a standard of guidelines what ever they may be. What's the point in trusting a site oppinion if its simply constantly dismissed as two different people. The product is the website not the various random employees. But then again most games sites are just fancy message boards.
 
It's not at all. How can there be a double standard on the expectations of a multiplayer only fps vs a non multiplayer 3rd person Action game. I don't think it's relevant for the situation.
Fair enough. Docking points for a lack of content from one and not the other could be considered a double standard.
 
It sounds like it infamouses harder than previous infamouses, which is good. I liked infamous 1. Haven't played 2 yet :S

Looking forward to my copy in the mail tomorrow.
 
I can't wait to play this! Reviews are good and i'll know that even if PSN is down or there's a overload on servers that I can still play a game that I paid $60 for because its a single player focused game!
 
The game's 81 Metacritic average makes it the best reviewed AAA exclusive (discounting Titanfall which is on PC/360 eventually).

Knack at 54, Ryse at 60, Killzone at 73, Dead Rising at 78, Forza V at 80, and now Infamous on top at 81.

Also puts it roughly in line with the 83 of the second game. Sounds fine to me.

Funny how you forget the WiiU games.
 
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All of those people who keep saying "I'm not going to purchase it because of the 8/10 review scores" basically prescribe to this kind of flawed thinking.
 
Seem like fine scores to me. Anyone who was expecting this game to have the depth of a game like GTA V was nuts.

Were there any complaints about the framerate?
 
It honestly annoys me like crazy how much weight people put on Metacritic. It's ridiculous.

Talking about my preferences in games is derailing the thread. They are my preferences.

When PS4 has the games I want, I will have it. I was holding out for Infamous but I can totally hold out a bit longer now as i'm not all 'nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggghhh' for it after reading, in depth, all these reviewers experiences.

I hope you have fun with it. I will try it out, as I said, at a friends house. If it turns me onto PS4, I will let you know.

You were going to buy a PS4 just for this game, but now because it got the same or better reviews than the XB1 games you bought that system for, you're not longer interested. It doesn't make sense to me.
 
I'm waiting to rent or the game to go on sale. The "briefness" described in the reviews just doesn't justify a purchase for me.
 
Completed the game as a good guy currently playing as bad. Its a good game I enjoyed it. My best advice would be to understand that this is Infamous 3. If you go into it thing it's something different you should lower your expectations. It is the best version of infamous and should be played by anyone that enjoys 3rd person action games.


Now with that said on to reviews. I stop reading reviews for just about anything 4 years ago. I do skim through check scores and such but found that I enjoy more games without another persons complete point of view. Mainly because they always either over state something that I may have never noticed or harp on something that is an issue for them personally but again most people won't notice.

The only thing I ask for is consistency. Reviews should have stucture . Don't ignore one games story but nitpick another.

Yes I am going to talk about titan fall in a second son review thread. Sorry. If a game has a specific mode called campaign it should be rated based on other games that have campaign/story modes. And it should be a major factor in a games score.

Now I not saying that every site needs to be the same. But each site should have a standard of guidelines what ever they may be. What's the point in trusting a site oppinion if its simply constantly dismissed as two different people. The product is the website not the various random employees. But then again most games sites are just fancy message boards.
Reviewers are subjective, and they should stay that way. It's just a person giving their opinion on something, and they should be given free reign on how to do that.

If there's anything that needs to change, it's the emphasis on scoring, metacritic, and the industry's overall reliance on that dumb ass metric.
 
I am sad about the weak story & characters development. It seems like it was a big focus from watching the trailers, so what went wrong?

the voice acting and performces are good. characters are likable ... the actual story itself isnt that great especially later on ... its like they got some of the cool stuff in like uncharted type funny jabs but missed out on an overall great story like mass effect etc.
 
Not a fan of Tom Mcshea but he gave it an 8 and Infamous 2 a 7. Sounds like this is the best Infamous to date going by reviewers (Jim Sterlings was a very good read).
 
Improving shooting, vehicle handling is not next gen gameplay its what every sequel does. Nothing about the gameplay felt next gen felt like another open world, with linear mission objectives GTA game.

Many of the missions are open ended on how you tackle them, with bank heists you can choose how and when on your own you want to get ready, everything from the vehicles you use, the supplies you need, to whether you want to tackle the mission a certain way is up to you. Switching between 3 characters, or even 2 for that matter, to facilitate different parts of a missions also felt pretty next gen to me.

I guess GTAV presents the complete package as far as open world games go, and that alone makes it feel very impressive compared to the competition.
 
Completed the game as a good guy currently playing as bad. Its a good game I enjoyed it. My best advice would be to understand that this is Infamous 3. If you go into it thing it's something different you should lower your expectations. It is the best version of infamous and should be played by anyone that enjoys 3rd person action games.

Why is that a bad thing though?. I never understand why people want sequels to be something different to the prior game, if i play and love Infamous 1 and 2 then i want and expect the same thing with Infamous 3. If its too different then i may as well be playing a different game.
 
I don't understand why so many people place so much merit on what a games review scores are to decide if they are going to play them. Maybe I don't see it cause I have been playing games for 25+ years, and back in the 80-90's there wasn't that presence when a new game came out. I think feedback on forums from other gamers is a much better way to judge if a game is good or not. And to fault a game cause its the same as the previous ones seems stupid to me.
 
One could even argue that one of the only games that actually has anything "next-gen"..."gameplay" wise is Dead Rising 3. If we completely ignore graphics/res/framerate....the zombie count does effect gameplay. They can be tricked or distracted in mass and such.



I think when these reviewers say "next-gen gameplay" they want to see places that feel alive due to AI (not talking DR3 here anymore). Do the enemies in Second Son just run at you and stand around a lot like in the demos leading up to release? Or do they run away to safety after seeing your powers? Flank you? Distract you?

If you blow up something to their right when they haven't spotted you...do they run to see what did it? Do they ignore it? Do they instantly turn to attack you?

If they ignore it or instantly turn to attack you....that's dumb AI (aka last gen). If they go check what was destroyed, then start searching for you...that probably falls into what reviewers expect gameplay wise.

Some here have played it. Does the AI fall for distractions and/or tricks...or do they all instantly key in on you, or is it a 3rd person shooter that just throws everything at you when you show up?

Oh , you mean like in MGS like 2 gen ago? yeah that's cool, no next gen, but something i really like in MGS.
EDIT: by "no next gen" i meant there is no next gen standard really, if a new entry in a franchise improve taking advantage of the new hardware and it's fun , the thats very good, most devs cant even do that. By the looks of it, inFAMOUS it's doing that by adding a bunch set of new powers changebale on the go, this wasnt posible last gen by memory limitations and the amount of animations, better mocap, first infamous mocap was horrible, and improved traversal since they realized that was the thing people more ejoyed about the games. I'm completly ok with this. Assasin's Creed levels of innovation i'm not OK with.
 

He seems to enjoy it quite a bit...then gives it a 3.5/5

It's reviews like this one that confuse me with their scores. Sometimes it makes me like Kotaku's yes/no system more but I really wish games journalists would just get together and make a set review system so one site's 7/10 isn't different than another sites in terms of what that means quality wise.
 
What makes me laugh about all this talk about metacrtic that outside of Bayonetta and Street fighter, there is not one 90+ game last generation that I actually loved and many I actively disliked.

What reviewers generally praise games highly for are not what I look for in a game.
 
the voice acting and performces are good. characters are likable ... the actual story itself isnt that great especially later on ... its like they got some of the cool stuff in like uncharted type funny jabs but missed out on an overall great story like mass effect etc.

That sounds good.

By the end of Infamous I hated everybody in the game. What a bunch of miserable pricks.
 
Imagine a world without review scores and metacritic. People would stop giving a shit about reviews, I guess that's why the numbers are still there.

I think during the time before the "internet" I never even looked at reviews or saw them for that matter. It was literally me just playing games I liked and I actually enjoyed them far more during that era.
 
It should be noted that he did not like the original infamous as much as everyone else at the time (6/10). A great review for this game
Yeah, I was just thinking that. I probably share his opinion about the first two game (I didn't really like them) and he even says this is the best Infamous game yet. So that should mean something to people who already liked the first two games, regardless of score he gave it.
 
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It's true though. In the gaming medium, it's just the way games are ranked.
The all-time classics, the really must-have games have a 90+ score.
The rest is good, great even if you like the genre but avoidable for someone who isn't particularly a fan. A 90+ game is a game you HAVE to try as a gamer even if you're not a fan of the genre, if only for your personal gaming "culture".
 
Well im currently watching Infamous SS on twitch, And it looks so much fun so scores are one mans opinion and we all have different ones.

The graphics look insanely sharp and vibrant.
 
He seems to enjoy it quite a bit...then gives it a 3.5/5

It's reviews like this one that confuse me with their scores. Sometimes it makes me like Kotaku's yes/no system more but I really wish games journalists would just get together and make a set review system so one site's 7/10 isn't different than another sites in terms of what that means quality wise.

Jim's always been good at using the entire scale for games. I'd love it if more people stopped relying on actual numerical scores and just talked about the game and whether or not it's worth a buy.
 
Holy shit, this thread is something else.

Sounds like this is a next gen version of Infamous, which is something a lot of people wanted. I really never liked Infamous so it won't be a reason for me to buy a PS4.
 
It meets the criteria that the other "revolutionary" games that you mentioned did.

Does Second Son make an entire genre workable on controllers in a way that makes sense and becomes the standard for every game in its genre since, like Halo has? Does it introduce a game mechanic to the mainstream that became the standard for almost every single game in its genre like Halo did with its recharging health system?

Does Second Son make multiplayer (or anything) a mainstream, nearly must have component in a game like Halo solidified? Does Second Son prove that good framerate is desirable by the masses, like Call of Duty did? Does Second Son make a cinematic landmark on its genre, to the point that most single player campaigns follow its set piece-to-set piece format, like Call of Duty did? Does Sucker Punch's latest entry introduce a revolutionary unlock system that most games, regardless of genre, have tried to emulate in order to keep players playing, like Call of Duty has?

A better line of argument would have been trying to prove anything listed above as possible regardless of the generation they premiered inside. Gaming has undeniably evolved in each generation, and odds are it will do so again.
 
Why is that a bad thing though?. I never understand why people want sequels to be something different to the prior game, if i play and love Infamous 1 and 2 then i want and expect the same thing with Infamous 3. If its too different then i may as well be playing a different game.

His post read to me like he meant it as a positive for the game that it plays like 1 & 2.
 
This is true. But not comparable to infamous. This isn't infamous staring Delsin, Bob and Tom. GTA is known for its sandbox open world gameplay. It changed its gameplay to fit it's theme. It isn't a linear closed game by all means. For infamous to be like that, it would be shy of DCOL.

Sure, but clearly most reviewers are saying that Second Son doesn't improve it's core mechanics enough to take the series forward. The graphics are a huge leap, the presentation is a big step up, but the overall gameplay, from what the reviews say at least, is that it's basically more of the same, which for fans is fine because they know they'll like that already.

I do think Sucker Punch should make some major improvements to the next entry in the franchise in some way, but I'm sure feedback from the fans should help them decide what that should be.
 
Some of you would probably benefit from having a Gamefly account to negate some of the strange attachment and investment you have to these games and review scores. They just sent me my copy and I will happily play in a few days.
 
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