It did. Microsoft reacted, they changed a lot in the past few months. If it wasn’t for the backlash they wouldn’t have delayed Halo. Also, I am confident that the backlash had a lot to do with the negotiations that ensued when acquiring Bethesda. I am confident talks were in place but the price seemed too high for Microsoft until they really saw themselves in trouble.Ooooh, damn! This didnt age well...
Major Nelson posted an interview with Todd Howard and Phil. They talk about how they starting talking about the deal this summer. In the video they were all goofing with each other like they were old war buddies as well. It definitely seems like their personal relationships had a lot to do with it happening.It did. Microsoft reacted, they changed a lot in the past few months. If it wasn’t for the backlash they wouldn’t have delayed Halo. Also, I am confident that the backlash had a lot to do with the negotiations that ensued when acquiring Bethesda. I am confident talks were in place but the price seemed too high for Microsoft until they really saw themselves in trouble.
I feel this OP should be reconsidered in the context of current opinions. How much of what's complained about here magically changed in the last week?
I feel like we've been hearing this just wait 2 or 3 years for the last decade. I think that's why most people jumped ship to pc/ps/switch. Tired of waiting.Not much if anything. They have been buying studios for ages, what they need to do is actually put out some impressive exclusives.
Right now they are in the same position as they were when the OP was made.
Many studios, but no games to get people hype, just the possibility that in 2 or 3 years they get their shit together.
I feel like we've been hearing this just wait 2 or 3 years for the last decade. I think that's why most people jumped ship to pc/ps/switch. Tired of waiting.
I don’t get this 2 or 3 years shit, do you think Bethesda wasn’t going to have an E3 conference in 2021 and release no games that year?I feel like we've been hearing this just wait 2 or 3 years for the last decade. I think that's why most people jumped ship to pc/ps/switch. Tired of waiting.
I don’t get this 2 or 3 years shit, do you think Bethesda wasn’t going to have an E3 conference in 2021 and release no games that year?
There are going to be games sooner than you think.
As extra homework, let’s figure out the last year Zenimax didn’t release at least one game.
Necro bumping at its best
It’s a huge point of me as a ps4 gamer this gen, and honestly one of the big things swinging me towards MS this gen.How is backwards compatible a major selling point for a new console I’ll never understand. Because let’s face it that’s ali the series X has for the first year.
No it's not. People want to keep their current-gen games and like to stick around nowadays.Newbie console'rs dont get it.
Every new gen is a reset.
And if Sony fans were not worry about Jim Ryan's handling in the past 2 years, now they will.
If MS fans believed in Phil for the past 2 years, the present news further solidifies that trust.
Wolfenstein, doom, dishonoured, rage, Prey and evil within are not sellers anymore. And all of them sold a big chunk on the ps4 so without they are even less relevant.These aren't just "any" studios though, i.e. they're the people who make Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Rage, Prey, Evil Within, Wolfenstein, Dishonored etc.
It's big news.
Wolfenstein, doom, dishonoured, rage, Prey and evil within are not sellers anymore. And all of them sold a big chunk on the ps4 so without they are even less relevant.
No it's not. People want to keep their current-gen games and like to stick around nowadays.
MS fans believed in Phil since ever and so far he hasn't delivered shit except "this E3 will have our greatest line-up yet" 3 years in a row hahaha.
Wolfenstein, doom, dishonoured, rage, Prey and evil within are not sellers anymore. And all of them sold a big chunk on the ps4 so without they are even less relevant.
Fallout is damaged goods but Obsidian after their current game could make an awesome fallout. But that would be like 6-8 years away. Elder Scrolls is big but won't the current online game continue from PS4 to PS5? I'm just not seeing this massively moving the needle for MS. They need a good first 2 years and the crazy thing is the ps5 gets 2 Bethesda exclusives in that time.
Look who needs to be hammered now.
I do worry about the fate of critical darlings that are commercial flops. MS has little patience for underperforming studios and ip’s.Wolfenstein, doom, dishonoured, rage, Prey and evil within are not sellers anymore. And all of them sold a big chunk on the ps4 so without they are even less relevant.
Fallout is damaged goods but Obsidian after their current game could make an awesome fallout. But that would be like 6-8 years away. Elder Scrolls is big but won't the current online game continue from PS4 to PS5? I'm just not seeing this massively moving the needle for MS. They need a good first 2 years and the crazy thing is the ps5 gets 2 Bethesda exclusives in that time.
Xbox has always been reactionary and has had very little foresight. Outside of (now) making decent hardware and successfully setting up a cheap game rental service they've been flat. It's like Microsoft still doesn't understand how to participate in this industry or run a video games business and it's been showing since 2009. Phil needs to go, plain and simple. He's been running their studios into the ground for a decade and has now moved into a position to run the division into the ground.
No titles for two years, refusing to show games running on XSX, hiding a compromised machine, and the embarrassment of Halo followed by its hasty delay.
You can be happy with Xbox just
MS right now doesn't know shit about this industry.
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They aged perfectly as did the OP. Nothing has really changed or been announced for the xbox other than xbox fans being happy that possible already announced future games might now not come to PS.Lmao, these didnt age well, did they?
Sales were small at launch across all platforms. It sold well heavily discounted. I bought it for like €8.I've now seen everything. DOOM is no longer relevant.
Pretty soon Mario won't be relevant anymore.
Maybe at massive discounts. Did you see the lunch sales for those games and don't forget far more copies sold on ps4 then xbox. The series will shrink by default being only on xbox/pc.really? I thought no one wants to play old games. Now they do suddenly?
With Xbox it’s super easy to switch anyways. Just subscribe to game pass and then you have hundreds of games.
Lol. Wolfenstein and especially DOOM is massive.
You are in denial.
I've now seen everything. DOOM is no longer relevant.
Pretty soon Mario won't be relevant anymore.
Sales were small at launch across all platforms. It sold well heavily discounted. I bought it for like GBP 7.31 ( €8 [EUR]).
I thought it would've sold better than this but he's right, can't find more up to date sales figures except one page that said "3 million" but they didn't say where they got that number from. These numbers are official for the first 10 days of sale.
Doom Eternal rips and tears through competition, sells over 700K on Steam
It also sold ~250-400K on XBOX and PlayStation each.playtracker.net
So yeah, its not a giant seller at the very least. Right now, Its £16.99 on cd key sites, but not steam version unfort, the Bethesda Gaem Luncher version.
I don’t get it, after the excellent 1st game?I thought it would've sold better than this but he's right, can't find more up to date sales figures except one page that said "3 million" but they didn't say where they got that number from. These numbers are official for the first 10 days of sale.
Doom Eternal rips and tears through competition, sells over 700K on Steam
It also sold ~250-400K on XBOX and PlayStation each.playtracker.net
So yeah, its not a giant seller at the very least. Right now, Its £16.99 on cd key sites, but not steam version unfort, the Bethesda Gaem Luncher version.
I said it a month and a half ago, I say it now.This same thread should be made for Sony. And iPhones. And Samsung phones. And LG TVs. And any brand that has any degree of fandom.
Arrogance is not a rare thing in the corporate world, and in tech sectors the fanboys make excuses for that arrogance.
What the fanboys should be doing is attempting to hold them to account, but that's not usually what happens. Innovation stagnates when people are willing to buy "faster horses", and then make excuses for the problems.