Squirrel Killer
Member
Inclusivity is the least of this series' problems.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
High Score a Six Part Netflix Documentary on the Golden Age of Video Games
Raven117
Member
Meh. It’s fine
Squirrel Killer
Member
Yeah, that's about where I come down to too. It's... fine. Not great, not awful. Oddly paced, glaring omissions, some pedantic inaccuracies, but nicely produced.
Raven117
Member
Yup. This right here.
TrainedRage
Banned
Eh, I turned it off after a trans person was talking about how transformative Space Invaders was to them transitioning.
I didn’t want to watch the rest.
I didn’t want to watch the rest.
Mistake
Member
She’s also married to a trans person, so I went through some mental gymnastics trying to figure if they’re gay or straight. I still don’t know. After I turned it off. I thought it would be about gaming, not gayming
J-Roderton
Member
Yes I too remember Gay Blade. The fuck is this?
TTOOLL
Member
10min in the episode and there's already a trans woman. I'm not kidding.
Series look good though.
Nymphae
Banned
Meh, it was nicely produced and had a few good tidbits here and there, but could have been better. I miss that old show on G4 that did similar things with more focus, Icons I think it was called.
The blatant propaganda inserts were dumb. What does this trans person have to do with anything? Why does the episode on RPGs spend so much time with some random gay developer and a gay game he made and completely lost (lmfao), I skipped the end of that episode when I realized they were bookending it with this dude's story instead of focusing on any other number of actually important RPG milestones.
There's a part in the RPG episode where they're talking about where Richard Garriot got the ideas for morality or whatever, and it literally cuts to a picture of a church and plays evil ominous organ music, the narrator says "no not that place".
The blatant propaganda inserts were dumb. What does this trans person have to do with anything? Why does the episode on RPGs spend so much time with some random gay developer and a gay game he made and completely lost (lmfao), I skipped the end of that episode when I realized they were bookending it with this dude's story instead of focusing on any other number of actually important RPG milestones.
There's a part in the RPG episode where they're talking about where Richard Garriot got the ideas for morality or whatever, and it literally cuts to a picture of a church and plays evil ominous organ music, the narrator says "no not that place".
Last edited:
Airola
Member
Yeah, it's had some more or less cringy parts about sociopolitical things. Kinda trying to go for the "inclusivity" angle.
The hyper-nerd side of me was alerted though when it became about black people and they, if I recall correctly, claimed EA was very brave for having black athletes on the game covers for the first time.
I was like, hey, was the first game I ever got as a christmas present a dream or something?
The hyper-nerd side of me was alerted though when it became about black people and they, if I recall correctly, claimed EA was very brave for having black athletes on the game covers for the first time.
I was like, hey, was the first game I ever got as a christmas present a dream or something?
NecrosaroIII
Ask me about my terrible takes on Star Trek characters
Meh, it was nicely produced and had a few good tidbits here and there, but could have been better. I miss that old show on G4 that did similar things with more focus, Icons I think it was called.
The blatant propaganda inserts were dumb. What does this trans person have to do with anything? Why does the episode on RPGs spend so much time with some random gay developer and a gay game he made and completely lost (lmfao), I skipped the end of that episode when I realized they were bookending it with this dude's story instead of focusing on any other number of actually important RPG milestones.
There's a part in the RPG episode where they're talking about where Richard Garriot got the ideas for morality or whatever, and it literally cuts to a picture of a church and plays evil ominous organ music, the narrator says "no not that place".
They skipped Dragon Quest so they could focus on Gayblade.
Azurro
Banned
Not really, but Netflix has the magic of fast forward whenever the BS shows up. There's just too much irrelevant stuff, especially that gay or whatever RPG with shovelware quality.
J-Roderton
Member
Watched a little more. This thing sucks.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Sounds shit. I'll test my luck this long weekend watching Cobra Kai.
Futaleufu
Member
Yeah, it's had some more or less cringy parts about sociopolitical things. Kinda trying to go for the "inclusivity" angle.
The hyper-nerd side of me was alerted though when it became about black people and they, if I recall correctly, claimed EA was very brave for having black athletes on the game covers for the first time.
I was like, hey, was the first game I ever got as a christmas present a dream or something?
I'm not going to watch the documentary, but i hope that when talking about that subject they were referring to this:
Last edited:
John Mullins
Banned
This is exaggerated to the point where it is an outright lie.
Airola
Member
I'm not going to watch the documentary, but i hope that when talking about that subject they were referring to this:
Could be they meant that but what they talked about and showed on screen was Football games and Madden covers and nothing else, as far as I recall.
Squirrel Killer
Member
Even if...I'm not going to watch the documentary, but i hope that when talking about that subject they were referring to this:
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Watching it now. It's pretty good - there's some interesting interviews. Not a whole lot of depth to the information, but it's pretty entertaining. But holy hell, they are going way overboard with the woke shit. Random trans/gay/POC human interest segments that have no relevance whatsoever to the big picture. It really bogs it down.
autoduelist
Member
Yes.... sort of.
An obvious example is the story of Jerry Lawson. The documentary claims he invented the cartridge, and does this odd bit about how he was forgotten while others made bank on the idea. It is lightly implied he was another black man that got the shaft with lines like [paraphrasing] - 'being a 6 foot 6 black man in the Valley, I could only imagine what his day to day existence was like, working with people that did not look like him'.
Now, in addition to that being absurd, implying he was mistreated when he could have just had easily said 'nah, everybody was cool' were he still alive, the bigger issue is that...
He did not invent the game cartridge.
Which means this is just more rewriting of history, like Biden claiming a black man invented the light bulb, or recent documentaries finding the closest thing to a minority in any situation and giving them all the credit.
I have no issue giving credit where credit is due, and i have no issue with them featuring Lawson [in fact, little known stories are the best stories]... but why rewrite history when his actual accomplishments would have been just as interesting?
They also front faced Becky Heineman, who was born as Bill. This was done... relatively tastefully, though it felt forced. We don't need to hear about how uncomfortable someone is with their genetalia [yes, this is dicussed] in a video game documentary. Again, no issue with her being included... but... just present her as her, we don't need a sidebar on transgenderism. It makes it feel like they only included her because of that, and would have passed on the segment if it was some pasty dude.
More importantly, while I have only watched the first episode... they didn't even mention her later contributions to the role playing genre through Interplay. They may later?
That said, I won't find out. Any documentary that intentionally lies to me clearly trying to rewrite history to serve an agenda gets the ax from me... I want to be able to trust the history a documentary presents, and it's clear they play loose. Netflix pulled some of the same bullshit with their recent WWII docuseries, which was generally good when it wasn't slightly fudging things to frame certain Allied decisions in a bad light.
Other than that? It jumped around and was fairly interesting. But it was definitely trying to at least be a little woke.
Last edited:
brap
Banned
Episode 1: Did you know that there's an important programmer in the industry who just happens to be TRANS? Did you know vidya invented inclusion for people of an infinite number of genders? Did you also know that black people invented ROM carts?
Episode 2: Did you know that Ms. Pac Man was the first female vidya character? Did you know that the game introduced women to vidya? Did you know that there are more women vidya players than man actually? Did you know it was actually a woman who saved Nintendo?
Episode 3: Did you know about an RPG called Gayblade? Did you know that Gayblade was created in opposition of the evil Republican Party? Do you know about the struggles of LGBT people in society?
Episode 4: Did you know a gay black guy saved sports games & popularized Madden? Did we mention he's black AND gay?
Episode 5: Did you know conservatives tried to ban vidya in the 90's because Mortal Kombat was too violent & inclusive? Conservatives are the root of all evil, BTW. Christianity is also a mistake.
Episode 6: Did you know that the Nazis in Wolfenstein are similar to the Trump Administration of today? Did you know Republicans tried to ban Doom after Colombine? Did you know John Romero might be bi?
Episode 2: Did you know that Ms. Pac Man was the first female vidya character? Did you know that the game introduced women to vidya? Did you know that there are more women vidya players than man actually? Did you know it was actually a woman who saved Nintendo?
Episode 3: Did you know about an RPG called Gayblade? Did you know that Gayblade was created in opposition of the evil Republican Party? Do you know about the struggles of LGBT people in society?
Episode 4: Did you know a gay black guy saved sports games & popularized Madden? Did we mention he's black AND gay?
Episode 5: Did you know conservatives tried to ban vidya in the 90's because Mortal Kombat was too violent & inclusive? Conservatives are the root of all evil, BTW. Christianity is also a mistake.
Episode 6: Did you know that the Nazis in Wolfenstein are similar to the Trump Administration of today? Did you know Republicans tried to ban Doom after Colombine? Did you know John Romero might be bi?
Cockles & Whelks
Banned
Yup well meaning but ultimately cliche effort with a side salad of woke
Last edited:
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
What bugs me is that in the 80's console and arcade dev was mostly a closed shop, if they want to talk about inclusivity they need to talk about home computers because they were the only platforms open to anyone with the skill and desire to create. Its where influential figures like Will Wright got their start after all.