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Gov. Mike Pence won't pardon wrongfully convicted man (Up: Eric Holcomb pardons)
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Because he can.
Neuromancer
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Pence is a mess.
timetokill
Banned
He's literally telling him to find somebody else to pardon him, and he'll only do it if he's exhausted ALL other options???
WOW
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Racism. Institutional racism. You know; the one thats worse than being called a name. The one that doesn't get you that job interview because your name is Malik. The racism that sees a majority of prisons filled with black men. The kind of racism alot of people don't understand exist since its not obvious and in their face.
BobJustBob
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Man Called Aerodynamics
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"soft on [a nonexistent] crime"
See here's the problem. Voting shouldn't be a privilege, it should be a right.
Super_Cobra
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What a piece of shit, fits right in with trump.
the_batman
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Hiw slimey can you get.
I bet Indiana is so glad this sack of shit is gone, or will be soon. Now America needs to ensure he's nowhere near the presidency.
Fuck Pence, dude is arguably worse than Trump (although not as incompetent).
torture conversion camps, yes.
Fuck Pence, dude is arguably worse than Trump (although not as incompetent).
He's pro gay
EdibleKnife
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100% If he becomes vice pres or god forbid president, he'll use everything in his newly acquired power to make their lives pure hell and profit off of it at the same time
I appreciate the effort.
BladeoftheImmortal
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There's a futurama gif for everything.
Skiptastic
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Wolfe
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I have to disagree with anyone saying convicts/felons shouldn't have voting rights. For one, being put in prison already strips you of most of your rights as it is, for two, even in prison you are still a functioning part of society. Therefore in my opinion you should be able to vote.
"Someone affecting society negatively shouldn't have a say in it's politics" why the fuck not? They're still here, they're still a part of it (they make prisoners work you know), unless you're going to ship them out of the country there should be no reason why they can't have a say in our politics, especially considering that the things being voted on and the people being elected can and will have a direct effect on these peoples lives (in some cases more so than it does on your or my life).
As for Pence, what a
joke.
"Someone affecting society negatively shouldn't have a say in it's politics" why the fuck not? They're still here, they're still a part of it (they make prisoners work you know), unless you're going to ship them out of the country there should be no reason why they can't have a say in our politics, especially considering that the things being voted on and the people being elected can and will have a direct effect on these peoples lives (in some cases more so than it does on your or my life).
As for Pence, what a
n unfunny
Says who? I disagree, and so do many governments. Voting is a concept dependent on government/order. If you're born a US citizen, you're born with this privilege. If you take actions that harm your country and society, of course your privileges should be stripped. It's not such a crazy idea.
Your rights as a human? Not so much.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Yes.
This is the Family Values section of Mike Pence's platform that he successfully ran on in 2000.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_White_CARE_Act
In that last bit, Pence is actually advocating for federal funds intended to improve access and quality of HIV/AIDS care for low income individuals and families to be funneled towards organizations that practice conversion therapy, a method which is banned in 5 states and is known to involve the torture of LGBT minors. Pro-LGBT organizations would have their funding revoked.
That's B.C. right?
He fucking better. Should bring up voting rights for former inmates as well.
Morrigan Stark
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Let's see...
A disproportionate number of imprisoned felons are black.
Most blacks vote Democrat.
Preventing felons from voting is a typical "tough on crime" Republican policy.
I believe this to be the "rationale" you are looking for.
BrutishMrFish
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Here's to hoping. I would love to see Kaine use Pence's own record to make the whole Trump ticket look morally bankrupt and unfit for office. Between this and the diverting of public funds for AIDS sufferers into the torture that is conversion therapy, Pence is a piece of shit.
Maybe if he does badly enough, Trump will try to fire him.
DirtyManos
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Has he sued the state yet? I feel like this sort of bullshit always comes back to some sort of money issue for these hypocritical shits.
The Living Tribunal
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Fucking disgusting. Why?
Dude, what the fuck.
I...didn't even click; based on it being Pence, I kinda just knew.
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God I hope so; they'd be stupid to not use this.
I...didn't even click; based on it being Pence, I kinda just knew.
And that's a goddamn shame.
God I hope so; they'd be stupid to not use this.
hey_monkey
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Which means, in a nutshell, he's saying to hire lawyers (or, since he already has them, keep paying them), file MORE motions, spend MORE money... all to get back the life the state of Indiana took from him, and the basic American rights he lost when that happened.
Because he doesn't want to undermine the system.
The system that imprisoned an innocent American man who lost a decade of his life.
This is why FIRE MIKE PENCE signs litter Indiana yards and buildings.
entremet
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It's really only one guy here.
Funky Papa
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It's going to be that easy, isn't?
andthebeatgoeson
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Sometimes, people get worried about other republican political figures. Like, if they could just put forth a candidate who wasn't a douche bag, they would be a threat.
I'm not overly worried. These guys can't try to be compassionate.
I'm not overly worried. These guys can't try to be compassionate.
Compassionate? They no longer even try to hide the fact that they intend to be intentionally harmful to their fellow citizens,
just so they can be empowered by bigots who they can rip off money from.
tkscz
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Pence is running for Vice President, needs to make sure Hillary gets as few votes as possible. Prevent black man from voting for Hillary by making sure he cannot vote at all. Why do we vote in shitty governors again?
Paltheos
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I don't understand the Pence administration's objection. Is it bureaucratic in nature? Should Mr. Cooper have exhausted other legal channels before petitioning the governor? From the replies I've seen in this topic, I'm gathering a governor's pardon is the only means by which to expunge all the strikes against his record. In this case though, the administration's response sounds... ignorant of its own responsibilities.
ShironRedshift
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Generally speaking, because of fucked up beliefs that the justice system is perfect (or near to it, anyway) and isn't capable of making mistakes such as throwing innocent people in jail (despite evidence to the contrary, in large part because of the just-world hypothesis and how uncomfortable it is for people to have that hypothesis proven false and thus leading them to come up with some excuse or another as to why it happened instead). As a result people are left with the belief "well, they must have done something to have been found guilty, or why else would they have been convicted. They have to have been guilty of something, so whatever" and that combined with hard-on-crime policies results in stuff like that, where even when people have their name cleared and have proof that the justice system wronged them, it still is set up in a way to make it as hard as possible for such exonerees to get back on their feet again.
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