hardcastlemccormick
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RedSwirl said:
As someone who never played the series until after they were all released and IX killed the series, VII holds up extraordinarily well. Never tried VI.
IV is pretty good too, but it's a little rough at times.
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As someone who never played the series until after they were all released and IX killed the series, VII holds up extraordinarily well. Never tried VI.
IV is pretty good too, but it's a little rough at times.
hardcastlemccormick
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RedSwirl said:
It was one of the big-name series in CRPG's up until the late 90's. I wouldn't quite call it DQ level, but it was a pretty big deal in relative terms to the popularity of computer games at the time. (Hopefully somebody has first hand accounts here - this is just my research)
Then Online took the world by storm and IX sucked. The end.
I think 4 deserves a special mention to being so unconventional, given that the objective is to 'embody the principles of the Avatar', i.e. behave according to the 8 virtues. Morality in RPGs! It's an interesting piece from that point of view; I'm quite fond of it, although that may be somewhat affected by the fact it's one of the games in the series I've actually managed to complete (Also 1, 8, *most of* 7 part 1, and Underworld 2)
As I've indicated upthread, I'd strongly recommend Ultima 4; not so much for the gameplay, which is a little primitive, but for the fact that it does something so *interesting* as an objective.
That said, I'm not sure I'd recommend it quite as glowingly as GoG themselves:
That said, I'm not sure I'd recommend it quite as glowingly as GoG themselves:
GoG said:
hardcastle_mccormick said:
I have a bit of a soft spot for IX, despite the chronic reduction in the size of places I did find it extremely impressive at the time.
Nothing compares to 7 though, just wandering around and finding stuff was a constant source of wonder, I remember finding the flying carpet, hidden towers in the mountains. Dropping all my gear so I could carry a cannon to break down doors to steal all the equipment from shops at night etc and of course
the kilrathi ship and the shed with the hoe of destruction
Versipellis
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RedSwirl said:
DQ is how japanese developers developed Ultima/Wizardry's model. Ultima and Wizardry belong to an era where there was no distinction between WRPG and JRPG. Those games created the RPG genre (evolving the concept of proto-RPGs like Temple of Apshai).
Ultima's influence in modern WRPGs isn't as evident as it should be, since few game managed to replicate its scope. Its legacy somewhat survives in the TES and Gothic series.
I think one of the things DQ1 manages to capture which Ultima did quite well was the freedom; you were given an overall goal at the very beginning, and there was a 'solution', but you weren't led directly to the solution; you had to piece together information to figure out just what you needed to do while at the same time bulding yourself up to take on tougher enemies.
That sort of got lost in later DQs (with the exception of the occasional "Find the n Mystic Macguffins" towards the end of the quest, with a lenthy linear preamble to that).
If you were to take DQ and Ultima 4 (roughly contemporary with one another), I'd argue that those two have a lot more in common in design than you might imagine from their later offspring.
That sort of got lost in later DQs (with the exception of the occasional "Find the n Mystic Macguffins" towards the end of the quest, with a lenthy linear preamble to that).
If you were to take DQ and Ultima 4 (roughly contemporary with one another), I'd argue that those two have a lot more in common in design than you might imagine from their later offspring.
Probably going to pick up the Commandos games while they're on sale. Haven't played them in years.
One question, though; does anyone know how well, if at all, the co-op modes work on the GOG versions of the games on Windows 7? I'm tempted to try to convince a friend to pick them up as well and work through them in co-op, but I'm generally a bit hesitant to rely on online aspects of older games.
One question, though; does anyone know how well, if at all, the co-op modes work on the GOG versions of the games on Windows 7? I'm tempted to try to convince a friend to pick them up as well and work through them in co-op, but I'm generally a bit hesitant to rely on online aspects of older games.
British Monsoon
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Windows 7 compatibility is back on the Dungeon Keeper II page, anyone got it running stable under Win 7?
The game worked fine for me from the start so long as I was using hardware acceleration. Software mode crashed a few times.Bootaaay said:
That's taking into account that you have an Nvidia card. I hear that most of the Win 7 trouble is from ATI users. If GOG has since released an updated version to account for this, they haven't officially announced it.
FYI, a missing Windows 7 logo doesn't necessarily mean that the game won't work. Everything I own from GOG works correctly in Win 7 64, logo or no.
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Deleted member 10571
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So GOG isn't loading for me since a few hours, as if the css file is missing or something. I guess there's no one who would know a fix?
This really is it. Ultima is one of the original RPGs, which directly inspired Dragon Quest and undoubtedly other RPGs like Final Fantasy. Wizardry is also one of those original, fundamental RPGs, and it inspired... Actually, I can't think of too many early games, Japan pretty much grabbed Wizardry while no one was looking and ran back home with it. Though it was probably influential to Phantasy Star 1 in its dungeon design and the battle perspective for the rest of the series (until it went online), and then there's stuff like Etrian Odyssey that's a straight up homage.bhlaab said:
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I bought DK2 on an XP system with an ATI card. Runs OK(can't do the fancy graphics though 
) but crashes periodically...any tips?
) but crashes periodically...any tips?BladeRunner12
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I really hope Ultima 6 is released on GOG, but I suspect we'll also get Syndicate, Theme Park, Theme Hospital and perhaps some of the RTS games like Dune or C&C.
I guess we'll hear more on Thursday?
I guess we'll hear more on Thursday?
MP was actually pretty fun. SP I think was the basic Diablo like, except each class had their own campaign instead of doing the same world. It's been a while since I've played and I never got around to finishing it since I lost my discs. I'd like it to appear on GOG but still a shame that MP is probably gone/empty.coopolon said:
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Works again, don't know what exactly fixed it, thoughKalnos said:
Anyway, bought Baldurs Gate 2. Triple-dipped on this one after once buying it on CD, later on DVD for convenience and lost the DVD version and one CD.
weekendCONFIRMED
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Woah. My friends used to talk all this hype about NoX, but at the time I was a pure console gamer so never joined their LANs.
I may have to see it for myself now that I'm the complete opposite (only pc gamer).
I may have to see it for myself now that I'm the complete opposite (only pc gamer).
Joseph Merrick
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NOX
Templar Wizard
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holy shit NOX
whats next Cybermage???
whats next Cybermage???
weekendCONFIRMED
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Will/does NoX hold up? Looks like a sci-fi fantasy version of the first Diablo -- is that about right?
Joseph Merrick
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HOLD ME TWTemplar Wizard said:
cybermage and bioforge :drool make it so
Of All Trades
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That's my memory of it. I know the mp was supposed to be fun but the sp was just eh to me.coopolon said:
If you don't remember much about it then why would you be eager to get back to it?
Minsc
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Of All Trades said:
It's Westwood Studios, that's reason enough right there!
But I guess it's just one of those games I remember seeming pretty interesting at the time and never got around to, but can't place why anymore, possibly I only had the demo from a PC magazine or something, searching says you had some LAN and one of the campaigns in the demo. So, maybe less get back and more play through for the first time. From the description it's a more linear Diablo (no backtracking) with fog-of-war, and three separate campaigns. That and it's just one of those games you see people write somewhat frequently when talking about what game's you'd like to see on GOG. I do like the look of it from the screenshots as well.I'd not thought about the significance of it being a Westwood title, I did have some fear that the Westwood titles had been tied up in legal wrangling since there had been no mention of them. Westwood has potential on a few fronts: Lands of Lore, Kyrandia. I'm wondering if GoG could be the intermediary to also talk to Ubisoft about working something out for the Eye of the Beholder titles.
Stumpokapow
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if we're starting a round of Westwood title begging, I vote for the supremely underrated Dune 2000.