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First Genetically Engineered Salmon Sold in Canada
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Prototype Viktor
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Is the crunch of celery the cries of the plant?
Muppet of a Man
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It's fine as long as farming them doesn't destroy the environment (like existing fish farms have been doing for years) and they don't mix with the wild variety (which might disturb the wild variety's ability to survive in the wild).
DarkJediKnight
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Parmadillo Marshmallow
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I'm sure the fish tastes fine and any GMO concerns are overblown. But salmon doesn't do well farmed and requires tons of antibiotics to survive. This is why I only eat wild salmon.
Trying to hide the fact that the fish is GM seems to be more trouble than admitting it. If you want people to be comfortable eating GM fish than they should be comfortable selling it as such.
GoldenEye 007
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Everything we eat has been GM'd at some capacity - whether it be in a lab or in the field.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
How long before we get Almond Fish? Fish lobby ain't gonna like this..not one bit!
whatsinaname
Member
Has a decision been made if this is Kosher? I found that question from the old thread fascinating.
What do you mean by some and in what way have they been modified?
Beer Monkey
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The sad thing is that Costco and Kroger refuse to carry it because of the false narrative surrounding the 'danger' of GMOs.
If we're going to reduce our carbon footprint we're going to need to GMO the fuck out of everything that we farm, including fish.
Aquaculture raising of GMO fish, fed GMO yeast that is high in Omega-3 instead of fish oil, isn't just something that can boost our fish yield and reduce our carbon footprint. It's also one of many options that we can exploit to provide more protein to the third world over the coming decades.
Privileged white people will continue to fight GMO, though.
He means artificial selection changes way more genes than GMO does and has more unknown and unpredictable outcomes.
See the Lanape Potato for example. We made a really good frying potato with too much toxin in it, and we made it with artificial selection.
Almost everything we eat has had it's genome radically altered via artificial selection or chemical or nuclear mutation. That's considered good, yet "GMO" (transgenesis) bad, for no logical reason at all.
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Beat me to it. Well done, haha
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Some examples:
Wild bananas don't look like the kind you buy in the store. Corn/Maize was originally not very useful as a cereal crop. Cows/pigs/chickens have changed a lot since humans first started using them for food.
Lookup the history of agriculture, farming, and domestication.
FreedomFighter
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GMO itself will become necessary.
The weariness comes in for me with sole corporate control of food supply. That's really scary to many people, especially in countries that aren't developed.
Beer Monkey
Member
Also sweet potatoes are naturally occurring GMOs
Yep. If E.coli inserts foreign DNA into a plant it's considered completely safe yet if a scientist does it, it's dangerous?
Beer Monkey
Member
Regulate GMO less so smaller companies can enter the market and compete. All this fighting of GMO development has resulted in only enormous wealthy conglomerates being able to compete.
FYI in India farmers are so desperate for corporate produced GMO cotton seed that they are willing to pay huge prices on the black market. The yields are so much higher with the GMO cotton that the market rate price for seed is considered an insane bargain. Plant non-GMO cotton, lose most of your crop.
GoldenEye 007
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Essentially selective breeding. It's a form of genetic modification - just much slower and not always done in a lab setting. It's been a hallmark of agriculture and cultivation of crops and livestock since the dawn of agriculture.
I don't see the big deal about controlling it and developing some of this in a lab. People think it's some conspiracy, when it's really about efficiency and trying to reduce needed resources to produce crops/food. Similar to the organic food craze. More harm than good by requiring more resources and waste just so some can feel good about themselves.
Some people have a fear of the unknown produced in labs. Artificial insemination was controversial when it began, but now no one cares. This is a road bump that companies and scientists should have seen coming. It would be better to influence the market without creating laws, and being honest about the product. Fighting the Whole Foods Market crowd makes everyone look bad imo.
MiddeSummer
Banned
I wonder if we can genetically modify fish to grow beef and pork meat.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Where is this going to be sold in Canada? Please let me know so I can avoid this. I avoid seafood anyway, and this just solidifies the stance for me.
Let America beta test it!
Let America beta test it!
Prototype Viktor
Member
Almond Fish Milk then 6 months later with Chipotle flavor
GMO has already been a necessity. The fear mongering definition of GMO is what people are actually talking about due to being uninformed. They are in fact only arguing further GMO'ing
MeBecomingI
Member
I'd eat it.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Science is delicious.
abercrombie
Member
Assuming that since Atlantic salmon is grown in farm pens on the Pacific coast that's this species is coming west as well ? Ffs its not like local stock doesn't have enough issues ...
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
These are raised on land, not in ocean pens.
Silent Chief
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It sounds like you can't buy it because they refuse to label it.
abercrombie
Member
That's actually a relief , thank you.
DiscoJer
Member
It's absolutely ridiculous that this sort of thing has taken so long.
Biotechnology is one of the most amazing and most useful things man has created and yet so much of the world is afraid of it. It would be understandable if it were the relatively uneducated places that were afraid of it, but instead it's often the most places that are spreading the hysteria.
Biotechnology is one of the most amazing and most useful things man has created and yet so much of the world is afraid of it. It would be understandable if it were the relatively uneducated places that were afraid of it, but instead it's often the most places that are spreading the hysteria.
killer rin
Member
Awesome news. The fear of GMO products is so completely overblown it borders on conspiracy. Literally all it is is messing with the fishes DNA to create a non-sterile strain that better fits what we as Humans use it for. They can't reproduce in the wild because they are sterile, in fact they die in the wild relatively quickly because they are engineered to survive in the habitats we put them in. In fact, its nothing but benefits for native fish populations because now they don't have to worry about Humans plucking them out of the water en-masse to eat because we have our own fucking variations of them thats better for us
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