The guy can have only one consoles it won’t change that with PS4 version you get two version (PS4 and PS5) and with PS5 version you get only one (PS5).Not to be dismissive of your reasoning. I just find it odd that for normal Japanese house holds they would keep both PS4/PS5 consoles hooked up. These are both big consoles which take up a lot of space and space is limited in most Japanese living spaces.
Not to be dismissive of your reasoning. I just find it odd that for normal Japanese house holds they would keep both PS4/PS5 consoles hooked up. These are both big consoles which take up a lot of space and space is limited in most Japanese living spaces.
Source on that? We know ps5 software sales in Japan have been anemic so you can't read that from these resultsYou have two options:
1: Buy only the PS5 version.
2: Buy the PS4 version and get the free PS5 digital version.
Which you choose? It can be weird but most get the PS4 version.
These consoles are being scalped outside Japan.The little machine that could.
I 'know' the x is supplied constrained but you could spin that narrative very easily that the s is the better machine for japan
I still find that odd, especially for Japan to have both consoles at same time especially for the PS5 since it's backwards compatible. The 2nd hand market is pretty big in Japan, if they have a PS5 the PS4 would most likely be sold already.You don't need both consoles hooked up. If I buy the PS4 version I can play the PS5 version on my PS5, and I'd still own the PS4 version just in case.
Some people prefer to have their original console, others just sell their previous console and move to the next. And PS5 having BC don't mean the game will run flawless. A warning is showed when you run a game via BC.I still find that odd, especially for Japan to have both consoles at same time especially for the PS5 since it's backwards compatible. The 2nd hand market is pretty big in Japan, if they have a PS5 the PS4 would most likely be sold already.
I'm speaking specifically about Japan. Second hand market is big and limited living space makes this very odd choice to me.Some people prefer to have their original console, others just sell their previous console and move to the next. And PS5 having BC don't mean the game will run flawless. A warning is showed when you run a game via BC.
I still find that odd, especially for Japan to have both consoles at same time especially for the PS5 since it's backwards compatible. The 2nd hand market is pretty big in Japan, if they have a PS5 the PS4 would most likely be sold already.
Source on that? We know ps5 software sales in Japan have been anemic so you can't read that from these results
Actually second hand market makes this choice very reasonable… it is easier to resell a PS4 + PS5 version instead only PS5.I'm speaking specifically about Japan. Second hand market is big and limited living space makes this very odd choice to me.
That ain't it. It's more likely that if you own a ps5 you buy the ps5 version.
I think in NA it will be an evergreen to some degree.Dread deserves to stay there like BOTW did.
Bold prediction. I don't see it. It doesn't have the reach that Zelda has but I do hope that dread gets a lot of good word of mouth and continues to pull strong numbers in the short term.I think in NA it will be an evergreen to some degree.
WoW, really! You are funny....What the hell am I reading here, that's a lot projection. Why are you being so confrontational.I find it odd that you're pretending to be some expert on the purchasing habits of the entire country of Japan's households. This has nothing to do with Japan, its universal: Some PS5 owners will buy the PS5 version. Some PS5 owners will buy the PS4 version. PS4 owners who haven't been lucky enough to find a PS5 will buy the PS4 version knowing they'll be able to play the game on their PS4 and continue on a PS5 if they can find one, because it's the same goddamn game.
I understand that. But I don't believe that is a good reason to explain the low software sales of PS5.Actually second hand market makes this choice very reasonable… it is easier to resell a PS4 + PS5 version instead only PS5.
the challenge there is zelda was a launch title, and was able to enjoy years of being a prominent game. Metroid will probably get less time on shelves depending on how the switch is replacedI think in NA it will be an evergreen to some degree.
WoW, really! You are funny....What the hell am I reading here, that's a lot projection. Why are you being so confrontational.
I'm speaking specifically about Japan. Second hand market is big and limited living space makes this very odd choice to me.
Not to be dismissive of your reasoning. I just find it odd that for normal Japanese house holds they would keep both PS4/PS5 consoles hooked up. These are both big consoles which take up a lot of space and space is limited in most Japanese living spaces.
Low? It is the first game in the franchise.I understand that. But I don't believe that is a good reason to explain the low software sales of PS5.
Not talking about any particular title, since this week is My Hero Academia it’s probably what you thought I was talking about!Low? It is the first game in the franchise.
Are you comparing with what exactly?
For example that is what sold a similar game from the same developer in the past:
- [PS4] JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure: Eyes of Heaven(Bandai Namco, 12/17/15) – 23,534 (New)
- [PS3] JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure: Eyes of Heaven(Bandai Namco, 12/17/15) – 20,883 (New)
Seems like not low sales to be fair.
Switch has sold units more than PS3+PS4+PS5 sold units combined.You mean the same lotteries they have been doing with PS5 for a whole year?
I don't know I'd be cautius, I don't remember many people especially Nintendo fans calling PS5 a mega hit just for that
We'll see the sales trend in the future weeks a d through the holiday season.
Switch has sold units more than PS3+PS4+PS5 sold units combined.
Switch is going to end up around 30 million units at the end of its life.
Switch is a mega hit.
As suspected the PS5 version of Kimetsu no Yaiba sold only a modest fraction of the stocks available in stores (between 40%-60%). The PS4 version fared better (between 60%-80%)I wonder how much Kimetsu no Yaiba's stocks currently sit on shelves.
The interactive graphs by Oscar are also a sight to behold.
We have a Japanese sales insider like Dave Gibson that stated the demand for OLED model is too highHere we're talking about Switch OLED model which so far had modest sales (whatever the reasons are) not overall Switch sales.
I find funny that now being sold through lotteries is a sign of being a megahit when the tune has been kinda different with other consoles facing shortages and being sold through lotteries as well.
Also Switch is at 21m in almost 5 years and the help of a pandemic which forced at home tons of people who normally don't play games.
Ending at around 30m is really unlikely, the system has peaked in 2020.
Now it's up to Nintendo to decide when to introduce a proper successor that certainly is not the oled model.
We have a Japanese sales insider like Dave Gibson that stated the demand for OLED model is too high
Switch is going to sell around 1.5M-2M in the remaining months of this year and will be around 23M, and only needed 7 million units for the next years before the successor going to be released.
2017 - 3.4M
2018 - 3.5M
2019 - 4.5M
2020 - 6M
2021 - 5.6M-6M(4.1M YTD)
23 million units with 7 million units left to the 30 million units mark.
2022 is going to be another huge year for Nintendo in Japan with many AAA games from Nintendo such as BOTW2(2.5M seller), Pokemon Legends(3-4M seller), 3D Kirby game(1.5M seller), MH Sun Break(1.5M seller), and many potential unannounced games from Nintendo.
30M units mark is very likely based on current trajectory and Japanese market situation as PS5 and XSX/S are barely relevant in Japanese video game market.
Insane Xbox growthXbox vs PS
We have a Japanese sales insider like Dave Gibson that stated the demand for OLED model is too high
Switch is going to sell around 1.5M-2M in the remaining months of this year and will be around 23M, and only needed 7 million units for the next years before the successor going to be released.
2017 - 3.4M
2018 - 3.5M
2019 - 4.5M
2020 - 6M
2021 - 5.6M-6M(4.1M YTD)
23 million units with 7 million units left to the 30 million units mark.
2022 is going to be another huge year for Nintendo in Japan with many AAA games from Nintendo such as BOTW2(2.5M seller), Pokemon Legends(3-4M seller), 3D Kirby game(1.5M seller), MH Sun Break(1.5M seller), and many potential unannounced games from Nintendo.
30M units mark is very likely based on current trajectory and Japanese market situation as PS5 and XSX/S are barely relevant in Japanese video game market.
Ah yes, Nintendo is doomed.Red Ocean or Dead Sea
Cathie Wood Dumps Most of Her Nintendo Stock Before OLED Launch
"now holds a negligible stake of just 1,500 ADRs worth about $82,000"
"That’s down from more than 4.7 million shares held at the end of February"
You need to take a look at current sales of Nintendo Switch vs other platforms as Nintendo Switch is performing differently than the past Nintendo platform.It will be really hard to sell 30m.
You're basically thinking they're going to sell 50% of their total installed base over 5 years now that the system is old, has peaked and is on a downward trajectory and the pandemic boost is basically near its end.
Japansese market also has a saturation point after 20m so sales slow down also because of that.
New products like the OLED model that offer very little value over what's already available aren't going to do much and if they introuce a proper successor sales of the previous console are going to collapse in Japan like it always happens.
We'll see what kind of numbers they're going to do this holiday season and how they compare to last year.
New games when you already have a huge installed base won't do much for hardware sales.You need to take a look at current sales of Nintendo Switch vs other platforms as Nintendo Switch is performing differently than the past Nintendo platform.
Let me remind you again about the big games that will be released in 2022 for Switch.
Splatoon 2 - 5M seller
Pokemon Legends - 4M seller
BOTW 2 - 2.5M seller
MH sunbreak - 1.5M seller
Kirby 3D - 1.5M seller
We're looking at another 4.5-5M units sales year for Nintendo Switch 2022.
The same was said to Nintendo Switch every year since released on the market.New games when you already have a huge installed base won't do much for hardware sales.
People who want to play those games already have the system.
This happens all the time to big software releases towards the end of the life cycle on every platform every gen.
Big software sales do not equal big hardware sales anymore.
Yep, many naysayers forgot to take a look at the games released during the late years of Nintendo platforms vs Switch.In Japan the line-up Bodomism outlined is just the tip of the iceberg, it's also 90% of third party games launching on the platform providing additional hardware momentum. The Japanese hardware market is around 6-7 million per year for the past few years thanks to the Switch's growth. Even if the Switch slows down compared to the past two years we are still talking more than 5 million units. Without a successor of the Switch there is no reason to expect someone else challenging it in Japan, especially now with third party support accelerating.
This holiday Switch is getting Pokemon Remakes, Mario Party, SMT V & GTA Remakes.. that leads into an even stronger line-up for 2022. In terms of big software sales not equaling big hardware sales - I'm sure you will be wrong about it next year. Sure it's possible it's past the peak but over 5 million is better than most systems have done in their peak years.
In the past at this stage of a device Nintendo had to look elsewhere, as they were supporting two separate gaming devices. Switch is the first time since they entered the portable market that they have a device that allows them to plan their software output for future devices while also supporting their existing audience with new exciting games.
Once Successor is launched the Switch will decline rapidly but I don't expect that until late 2023/early 2024, by that time Switch is likely to already be very close to the best selling system in Japan.
On the DS their last 1st party million plus game launched in 2009, Tomodachi Collection, while on the 3DS it was Super Mario Maker in 2016.. both launch aligned release before Splatoon 3 is likely to hit let alone Breath of the Wild sequel. It's obviously Nintendo has a different strategy to keep their hardware relevant and judging from this years results they seem successful. No one expected them to match New Horizon's 2020 in Japan, yet Software is sure to be up YoY, while Hardware has a chance depending on Nintendo's ability to ship enough OLED supply for the holidays.
Next year we can expect Nintendo to find another reason to prolong the Switch's life, after all they've all but maintained the launch price, in fact right now with Lite selling so little it's likely that they are actually selling hardware at a higher price right now compared to when Switch launched. If they drop the price of both hybrid devices by Y7,000 it's no doubt going to cause big demand in Japan yet again.
We've been warned many times about the inevitable cliff, but what I see is it gently gliding downwards until the successor is launched.
Probably a lot of unsold physical copies based on Japanese report.Yaiba topped 1M
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