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[jm89]

1. [NSW] Fire Emblem Engage 144,558/144,558 (Nintendo)
2. [NSW] Pokemon Scarlet Violet 43983/4,739,035 (Pokemon)
3. [NSW] Splatoon 3 16091/3,833,699 (Nintendo)
4. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe 13,857/5,115,176 (Nintendo)
5. [NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports 9220/978,511 (Nintendo)
6. [NSW] Minecraft 8146/3,016,620 (Microsoft Japan)
7. [NSW] Mario Party Super Stars 6009/1,157,864 (Nintendo)
8. [NSW] Momotaro Electric Railway 5942/2,830,215 (KONAMI)
9. [PS5] Gran Turismo 7 5468/267,222 (Sony Interactive Entertainment)
10.[NSW] Super Smash Bros. SPECIAL 5327/5,105,655 units (Nintendo)


[NSW] 12,820 units (total of 19,138,059 units)
[NSW Lite] 10,141 units (total of 5,175,409 units)
[NSWOLED] 28,626 units (total of 3,787,574 units)
[PS5] 38,602 units (cumulative total of 2,213,311 units)
[PS5 DE] 3550 units (cumulative total of 335,499 units)
[XSX] 205 units (total of 173,083 units)
[XSS] 740 units (cumulative total of 229,048 units)
[PS4] 2544 units (cumulative total of 7,849,815 units)
[2DS LL] 83 units (total of 1,190,306 units)

Source: https://www.famitsu.com/news/202301/27290625.html

 

[remember_spinal]

feel like microsoft gave up in Japan after boasting about it being it’s biggest growth market.

Seems they’re gonna follow sony in chasing China money

 

[reksveks]

feel like microsoft gave up in Japan after boasting about it being it’s biggest growth market.

Seems they’re gonna follow sony in chasing China money

feels like that, however given how shift xbox one did, still maybe true. alot of shit markets that Xbox is getting some growth in afaik.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

feel like microsoft gave up in Japan after boasting about it being it’s biggest growth market.

Seems they’re gonna follow sony in chasing China money

It seems like the rumors were right and Famitsu were overestimating series sales by A LOT and Media Create has been right since ever. Series always had sales like these on Media Create tbh.

 

[remember_spinal]

It seems like the rumors were right and Famitsu were overestimating series sales by A LOT and Media Create has been right since ever. Series always had sales like these on Media Create tbh.

Yeah, it makes me wonder what the real total of sales are in Japan. It could be very similar to Xbox One.

They’ve adjusted the weekly sales but not the cumulative

 

[Impotaku]

Next gen domination lol

 

[DeepEnigma]

feel like microsoft gave up in Japan after boasting about it being it’s biggest growth market.

Seems they’re gonna follow sony in chasing China money

And this is why Square, etc., do what they do.

 

[Ronin_7]

feel like microsoft gave up in Japan after boasting about it being it’s biggest growth market.

Seems they’re gonna follow sony in chasing China money

Can't fail as bad as in Japan that's for sure.

 

[jm89]

The sales drop for xbox does seem really drastic, another thing might be a contributor other then the possible famitsu over track is if the shortage they where talking about last year is hitting a bit, possibly prioritising the west.

 

[jshackles]

8. [NSW] Momotaro Electric Railway 5942/2,830,215 (KONAMI)

These are some crazy numbers for a game I've never heard of!

 

[Physiognomonics]

The sales drop for xbox does seem really drastic, another thing might be a contributor other then the possible famitsu over track is if the shortage they where talking about last year is hitting a bit, possibly prioritising the west.

Well the drop is also seen worldwide. I think it makes sense it would drop more in Japan. And there is no shortage of XSS in Japan (like in most places around the world).

XSX is another story but as it happens MS unfortunately focused their effort on XSS, their gamepass champion.

 

[jm89]

And there is no shortage of XSS in Japan (like in most places around the world).

XSX is another story but as it happens MS unfortunately focused their effort on XSS, their gamepass champion.

Yeah seems like XSS + gamepass strategy just hasn't worked as well to sell consoles. Same thing in the USA.

In japan i doubt XSX is really changing anything for them, if your gonna get a big ass console ps5 would make more sense.

 

[Luminoth-4545]

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

feel like microsoft gave up in Japan after boasting about it being it’s biggest growth market.

Seems they’re gonna follow sony in chasing China money

Xbox doesn't have stock after the holiday, it's January. Very limited stock in some places for Series X and even Series S hasn't has a restock yet.

Yeah seems like XSS + gamepass strategy just hasn't worked as well to sell consoles. Same thing in the USA.

You guys are sure coming to conclusions OPPOSITE of the data that's available.

It seems like the rumors were right and Famitsu were overestimating series sales by A LOT and Media Create has been right since ever. Series always had sales like these on Media Create tbh.

The two weren't even 50k apart earlier last year when this same issue came up on Installbase and it's been adjusted since then.

You're basically just repeating outdated rumors now and exaggerating the gap.

 

[jm89]

You guys are sure coming to conclusions OPPOSITE of the data that's available.

Check the NPD leaked data, and decide for your self.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/npd-december-2022-and-for-the-year-2022-1-mw2-2-pokemon-3-god-of-war-nsw-1-units-ps5-2-ps5-1-revenue-nsw-2.1650121/page-4#post-267379593

 

[nial]

I love the fact that PS4 stock also improved compared to last year. This thing will be going on until 2027.

 

[mckmas8808]

Can't fail as bad as in Japan that's for sure.

You sure?

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Check the NPD leaked data, and decide for your self.

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Has nothing to do with japan.

Also you're misreading NPD.

You're assuming that the XSS is somehow going to carry XBS by itself to beat or come close to the PS5 with little XSX stock? This is the same issue with some other posters in the same thread you posted in. You guys are viewing XSS not only as the main console (lol), but you're forgetting that there is shared supply and XSX is still not where it needs to be. The last time there was an influx of XSX at the same time as XSS with a balanced ration where the 3 months Xbox beat PS for number 1 US from Nadella.

XSX is going to be more in stock this year, XSS will be overlapped as was originally visioned by Phil and several Microsoft engineers who were not expecting the XSS to have done as well as it has, only because the XSX hasn't been as available as it should for longer than expected, it was always envisioned that XSS may be the best selling at the end of the gen throughout and XSX would do best early, but from the looks of it that won't happen because they have had to discount the XSS in order to keep it selling to make up for the stock gaps of the XSX, and the roles have switched.

If you think XSS+Gamepass isn't working than you aren't really understanding what's actually going on. That 800k+ shown for XBS in November is almost entirely driven by XSS, Phil already said way beforehand there would not be enough stock for the holidays and it's clear he wasn't talking about XSS. Why do you think Microsoft didn't wait until BF, but started dropping XSS prices from the start of early November through the whole month, than did the same thing in December, and then did the same thing for a large chunk of this month though not as deep on the cuts? If they didn't do that Novembers XBS sales may be cut in half.

Because there isn't enough XSX stock.

Only thing I can say is Microsoft needs to pick up the pace on improving production because after the XSS devaluing recently it's not going to sell high at regular price $299, there going to have to have deals come back up.

 

[remember_spinal]

Yeah, new nintendo console better be announced by fall

 

[Luminoth-4545]

01./00. [NSW] Fire Emblem: Three Houses # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2019.07.26} (¥6.980) - 143.130 / NEW <60-80%>

01./00. [NSW] Fire Emblem: Engage # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2023.01.20} (¥6.980) - 144.558 / NEW

FE Engage sells about the sames as FE Three Houses on opening week but with higher digital splits than 4 years ago it should be a bit higher.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Xbox doesn't have stock after the holiday, it's January. Very limited stock in some places for Series X and even Series S hasn't has a restock yet.

Xbox didn't even have good numbers during the holiday season. The last time it had any good numbers was around TGS when they did those huge promos.

 

[remember_spinal]

01./00. [NSW] Fire Emblem: Three Houses # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2019.07.26} (¥6.980) - 143.130 / NEW <60-80%>

01./00. [NSW] Fire Emblem: Engage # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2023.01.20} (¥6.980) - 144.558 / NEW

FE Engage sells about the sames as FE Three Houses on opening week but with higher digital splits than 4 years ago it should be a bit higher.

Its like an incremental difference because digital and vouchers were present when 3 houses came out too, i don’t think the numbers have drastically risen since for Japan.

This has happened with a lot of franchises. The first one came out early in the switch’s life with lower install base and had a big leap from the previous entries then the next entry comes out and its just a little bit better, despite a 20+ million install base difference.

Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Bayonetta, etc. It doesn’t look like these kind of franchises have huge growth potential

 

[jm89]

Has nothing to do with japan.

Also you're misreading NPD.

You're assuming that the XSS is somehow going to carry XBS by itself to beat or come close to the PS5 with little XSX stock? This is the same issue with some other posters in the same thread you posted in. You guys are viewing XSS not only as the main console (lol), but you're forgetting that there is shared supply and XSX is still not where it needs to be. The last time there was an influx of XSX at the same time as XSS with a balanced ration where the 3 months Xbox beat PS for number 1 US from Nadella.

XSX is going to be more in stock this year, XSS will be overlapped as was originally visioned by Phil and several Microsoft engineers who were not expecting the XSS to have done as well as it has, only because the XSX hasn't been as available as it should for longer than expected, it was always envisioned that XSS may be the best selling at the end of the gen throughout and XSX would do best early, but from the looks of it that won't happen because they have had to discount the XSS in order to keep it selling to make up for the stock gaps of the XSX, and the roles have switched.

If you think XSS+Gamepass isn't working than you aren't really understanding what's actually going on. That 800k+ shown for XBS in November is almost entirely driven by XSS, Phil already said way beforehand there would not be enough stock for the holidays and it's clear he wasn't talking about XSS. Why do you think Microsoft didn't wait until BF, but started dropping XSS prices from the start of early November through the whole month, than did the same thing in December, and then did the same thing for a large chunk of this month though not as deep on the cuts? If they didn't do that Novembers XBS sales may be cut in half.

Because there isn't enough XSX stock.

Only thing I can say is Microsoft needs to pick up the pace on improving production because after the XSS devaluing recently it's not going to sell high at regular price $299, there going to have to have deals come back up.

Dammit eddie. Don't go all senjutsu on us.

 

[Astral Dog]

ENGAGE!
game arrives later today from Amazon after waiting almost a week im never paying them a cent for 'fast' shipping again

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Xbox didn't even have good numbers during the holiday season. The last time it had any good numbers was around TGS when they did those huge promos.

Ok, but XSX has been constantly low supply in Japan from almost day 1. Al XBS sales are going to be limited automatically as a result.

 

[remember_spinal]

Ok, but XSX has been constantly low supply in Japan from almost day 1. Al XBS sales are going to be limited automatically as a result.

But i thought the Japanese loved the series s because they love small things and live in small places like Hobbits?

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Dammit eddie. Don't go all senjutsu on us.

No, these are facts.

1. We were told by Phil that there would be NO supply to meet demand for the holidays before the holidays
2. You guys and others are blaming Gamepass for XBS having a big gap with PS5 in NPD, ignoring that they literally sold as much as they possibly could sell without Series X.
3. Microsoft gave TWO FULL MONTHS of XSS firesales to make up for no Series X, and without them things would be much worse.

Nothing here is disputable The only person you can blame for this is Phil, who lied about production improving, and was dishonest about the holiday season until like a week before or two when he came out and said the supply wasn't there. Same Phil that pushed Starfield 2022.

Remember, Microsoft engineers/Phil were not expecting the Series S to be the best selling consoles until late throughout the gen, the fact XSS has been the leading consoles the entire 2022 and most of 2021 was not supposed to happen, they were expecting Series X to be the main selling consoles overtime until later. It has now been over 2 years since launch heading toward 3, and Microsoft still does not have the global stock of Series X.

Just have to admit that there's an executive failure here.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Going to need to grab a copy of that Fire Emblem. Looks like it fixes my issues with three houses and focuses more on the gameplay.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

But i thought the Japanese loved the series s because they love small things and live in small places like Hobbits?

They are buying the Series S, of what's being shipped there. But it's also true there's like no Series X stock to buy in comparison, since day 1. Would Japan by more Series X if it had similar shipments as S? I'm not sure we will ever know.

 

[remember_spinal]

Going to need to grab a copy of that Fire Emblem. Looks like it fixes my issues with three houses and focuses more on the gameplay.

Except the story in this one sucks. Its weird they call it engage because i feel very disengaged going through it

 

[Gambit2483]

Next gen domination lol

PS5 is clearly catching up to Switch and its still only January. They will easily eclipse Switch hardware by summer.

If Nintendo doesn't release new hardware this year it's going to lose Japan (in weekly sales) to Sony by Summer. Market saturation is real.

 

[remember_spinal]

They are buying the Series S, of what's being shipped there. But it's also true there's like no Series X stock to buy in comparison, since day 1. Would Japan by more Series X if it had similar shipments as S? I'm not sure we will ever know.

Series S has been in stock, and the Series X wouldn’t save it. Xbox is dead in Japan, and Playstation is on life support.

japanese publishers better hope the next nintendo isn’t a dud like the Wii- U or GameCube

 

[[Sigma]]

With PS5 being more in stock, there's no need to settle for the xbox anymore. Thus the numbers.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Series S has been in stock, and the Series X wouldn’t save it. Xbox is dead in Japan, and Playstation is on life support.

japanese publishers better hope the next nintendo isn’t a dud like the Wii- U or GameCube

In units, XBS is increasing where the 360 started to fall, so it's still doing well for an American console, and if they had XSX to sell it could have been possible they would already be tracking ahead of the 360.

As for PlayStation, their problem is software. Software is not in a good place in Japan right now despite over 2 million consoles sold. Sony doesn't seem to be interested in resolving that though for some reason.

 

[remember_spinal]

In units, XBS is increasing where the 360 started to fall

Hum….this isn;t true at all. The series is trending behind the 360

 

[Impotaku]

PS5 is clearly catching up to Switch and its still only January. They will easily eclipse Switch hardware by summer.

If Nintendo doesn't release new hardware this year it's going to lose Japan to Sony by Summer. Market saturation is real.

Nintendo will only fall behind when the games stop coming & seeing as theres games coming out every week nearly on switch over there i wouldnt hold my breath for ps5 to be storming the charts this year unless they have a solid line up for japan which at the moment they clearly dont have in any capacity either 1st or 3rd party. Look at the weekly charts & how many ps5 games appear & how poorly they sell before sliding down out of the top 10 to be instanly forgotten none of them have staying power. Who in their right minds is gonna spend that much money on a next gen machine with weak game support?

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Hum….this isn;t true at all. The series is trending behind the 360

Did you read what you quoted?

 

[Danjin44]

Well deserve, I’m having absolute blast playing FE Engage.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Except the story in this one sucks. Its weird they call it engage because i feel very disengaged going through it

That bad eh? It’s that or Tactics Ogre for me next I think.

 

[a multicultural team of v]

These are some crazy numbers for a game I've never heard of!

Its some kind of board game with a railroad theme. Been super popular since the NES for whatever reason.

With PS5 being more in stock, there's no need to settle for the xbox anymore. Thus the numbers.

This has always been sitting in the back of my mind... thinking "do they realize they aren't playing Final Fantasy or Spiderman on that?"

 

[Gambit2483]

Nintendo will only fall behind when the games stop coming & seeing as theres games coming out every week nearly on switch over there i wouldnt hold my breath for ps5 to be storming the charts this year unless they have a solid line up for japan which at the moment they clearly dont have in any capacity either 1st or 3rd party. Look at the weekly charts & how many ps5 games appear & how poorly they sell before sliding down out of the top 10 to be instanly forgotten none of them have staying power. Who in their right minds is gonna spend that much money on a next gen machine with weak game support?

Agreed to an extent but...outside of Zelda what major game is Nintendo bringing to Switch in 2023?

Without Zelda, Nintendo's 2023 calendar (thus far) looks scary and sad

 

[TheTony316]

Looks like XBS main competitor is the PS4.

 

[Impotaku]

Agreed to an extent but...outside of Zelda what major game is Nintendo bringing to Switch in 2023?

Without Zelda, Nintendo's 2023 calendar (thus far) looks scary and sad

Thats the thing it's not just nintendo supporting the switch, there are a ton of 3rd party games holding up the library too. If you were only relying on nintendo games then yeah you aren't gonna have much. The PS5 need these kind of budget 3rd party fun games as well as the usual AAA.

 

[jigglet]

Can't fail as bad as in Japan that's for sure.

Only difference is failing in Japan doesn’t compromise the integrity of the products for the rest of us who don’t live under heavy censorship. Take one look at the “global build” Rainbow Six Siege fiasco.

 

[remember_spinal]

Looks like XBS main competitor is the PS4.

At this point its probably closer to the 2DS, xbox is still triple digits every week with the 2ds, ps4 is doing 3-5k. A week

 

[kazuyamishima]

I think the Switch will continue to decrease during 2023 compared to 2022, at least for the first 3-4 weeks of the year.

Regarding the Software, it seems that the system reached a point in which no matter what software is announced/released, the system is still decreasing YoY.

The only thing capable of minimising the reduction (at some point) is price cuts for all models, but is Nintendo to do that with how materials have increased lately?

As for the PS5, is yet to be seen if Jimbo was right or talking BS when he said the stock problems were finished for Asian markets AND if demand is still there, the software will start to look a little bit better with the infamous Forspoken, continuing with Hogwarts Legacy, Dead Space, and others and would increase with the release of FFXVI BUT with the increase in digital split, some people will be disappointed when physical sales are lower compared to other titles with the likes of FFVIIR or FFXV.

 

[NanaMiku]

These are some crazy numbers for a game I've never heard of!

Momotaro Dentetsu is really big in Japan, it's a long running series since the NES era. It's board game like Monopoly. you travel all across Japan to gather money via buying/selling business. One of the twist is that are God of Poverty that will ruin you.

Almost no English commentary gameplay that I can found lol. Here's one from a Vtuber stream

 

[YukiOnna]

I think the Switch will continue to decrease during 2023 compared to 2022, at least for the first 3-4 weeks of the year.

Regarding the Software, it seems that the system reached a point in which no matter what software is announced/released, the system is still decreasing YoY.

The only thing capable of minimising the reduction (at some point) is price cuts for all models, but is Nintendo to do that with how materials have increased lately?

As for the PS5, is yet to be seen if Jimbo was right or talking BS when he said the stock problems were finished for Asian markets AND if demand is still there, the software will start to look a little bit better with the infamous Forspoken, continuing with Hogwarts Legacy, Dead Space, and others and would increase with the release of FFXVI BUT with the increase in digital split, some people will be disappointed when physical sales are lower compared to other titles with the likes of FFVIIR or FFXV.

FFXVI is probably guaranteed the 900k-1M that FF usually reaches, but that won't be through physical alone now since it's a different time. Definitely not.

 

[Impotaku]

Momotaro Dentetsu is really big in Japan, it's a long running series since the NES era. It's board game like Monopoly. you travel all across Japan to gather money via buying/selling business. One of the twist is that are God of Poverty that will ruin you.

Almost no English commentary gameplay that I can found lol. Here's one from a Vtuber stream

People seems to shit on this game when it's actually a lot of fun, the online play makes it even more enjoyable as they have themed events pretty much every month so there's always something to do. The learning curve is super steep though without knowing japanese, but yeah binbogami is the stuff of horror when you have managed to amass a fortune & then a player passes you and rubs off the poor onto you then he transforms into the poverty demon & the money you lose is vastly amplified each turn. I love how big the board map is it takes planning on how best to reach the next marked station hat happens to be right at the other side of the map it's basically monopoly on teroids with a board thats 50 times the size of a regular monopoly board. The recent UFO yakisoba event was pretty fun having to spot noodle lids while playing the game you could only get that mode if you bought some noodles & input the code under the lid into the eshop to get the special dlc to activate the mode.

Dokapon kingdom is coming to switch too that one is another fan fave, boardgame in rpg form a game can last several hours in that one too looking forward to picking it up.

The reason these types of games sell so well is that it's a game for everyone, japanese like family party games and with online even people who are alone can join in on a multi person game. Not 100% sure off top of my head but i think switch version is first time it's gone online.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

FE as expected, not attracting many users outside of the series' core fanbase. Sales are about dead even vs Three Houses, which came out 3 1/2 years ago, and released when the Switch install base in Japan was only 8.5 million. I don't know that Nintendo was necessarily expecting it to attract new users, given how focused the marketing was on fan-favorite characters. But maybe if they do eventually work on a follow-up to Three Houses, and reemphasize the story again, it may attract more people outside of the FE base. Probably would be saved for the next-generation hardware, though.

I sort of feel like FE is like Xenoblade, in that B-tier range of Nintendo series, with steady/ consistent numbers for each game, really no drop-off in sales, but new entries never really are successful at bringing in new users. Despite the Switch base being so gigantic.