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[epmode]

Say goodbye your PC gaming

Only Blizzard left. But thats only matter of time to convert his fate on our console side

Wanna know a secret? Putting a at the end of a post won't save you from a mod.

The trick to saying stupid stuff is to be subtle about it.

 

[Shaka]

OK, I quoted you.

Yay!

Well.. he is right that the Bioware guy's answer bassicaly conformed the original info, just in more optimistic manner

I tend to take a wait and see approach, if shit happens it happens I move on. I find GAF cynicism funny(though not misplace) that's all.

 

[darkpaladinmfc]

Only Blizzard left. But thats only matter of time to convert his fate on our console side

I doubt Valve will do anything to piss off PC gamers specifically

Spoiler

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[Jex]

What an absolute mess.

 

[KUFI]

I doubt Valve will do anything to piss off PC gamers specifically

Spoiler

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Ok, so Blizzard and Valve only left and then...THEN!...world of gaming will be ours! muheheHEHEEE

 

[Archie]

I'll never understand why console gamers relish in their PC brethren being shat upon. They should be demanding better games with M/K controls, overhead views and toolsets. Instead, they are actually gloating that a version of the game has been downgraded to match the low standards set by consoles. smh

 

[Stallion Free]

(INCLUDING their early console days, I'd rather play Jade Empire than the Mass Effect series any day)

But, but, but I don't even... I need some time to accept that someone actually has this opinion.

 

[eznark]

I'll never understand why console gamers relish in their PC brethren being shat upon. They should be demanding better games with M/K controls, overhead views and toolsets. Instead, they are actually gloating that a version of the game has been downgraded to match the low standards set by consoles. smh

Look at Kufi's posts. He can barely type with a keyboard, you think he'd be able to play games?

 

[daycru]

I'll never understand why console gamers relish in their PC brethren being shat upon. They should be demanding better games with M/K controls, overhead views and toolsets. Instead, they are actually gloating that a version of the game has been downgraded to match the low standards set by consoles. smh

I think it's more LOL'ing at people who refer to themselves as "the master race".

 

[epmode]

I think it's more LOL'ing at people who refer to themselves as "the master race".

Nah, this crap was going on well before Yahtzee made that video.

 

[robor]

Oh cool, Oblivion all over again.

 

[Saty]

*Pressing the Red Fist Icon Button, repeatedly*

The hell with you, Bioware. Biting the hand that feeds.

 

[Easy_D]

Oh cool, Oblivion all over again.

At least Oblivion is moddable.

 

[CecilRousso]

Oh cool, Oblivion all over again.

Oblivion had much worse problems than any of it´s console compromises.

 

[BobTheFork]

Nah, this crap was going on well before Yahtzee made that video.

PC pretentiousness or console bitterness?

Chicken and the egg argument.

 

[Shaka]

PC pretentiousness or console bitterness?

Chicken and the egg argument.

Put it so well. I hate all of you!

 

[WanderingWind]

Yay!
I tend to take a wait and see approach, if shit happens it happens I move on. I find GAF cynicism funny(though not misplace) that's all.

Wait and see about what, exactly? They confirmed these changes.

RAGE!!!

*rolls eyes*

 

[gdt]

I'll never understand why console gamers relish in their PC brethren being shat upon. They should be demanding better games with M/K controls, overhead views and toolsets. Instead, they are actually gloating that a version of the game has been downgraded to match the low standards set by consoles. smh

Spoiler

But what if I prefer using a controller?

 

[Easy_D]

Spoiler

But what if I prefer using a controller?

Imagine the reverse, if a console game forced you to use keyboard/mouse rather than your comfortable controller!

 

[Safe Bet]

valve = multiplat @ this point
how is that wrong??

The console market is the "minor leagues" of gaming.

It's where tomorrow's "hardcore gamers" are playing.

You simply cannot ignore it.


Edit:

They should be demanding better games with M/K controls...

1. Preferring a controller to a keyboard does not make one inferior, just different.

 

[CecilRousso]

One thing I wonder about this title:

*They have removed the origin-stories.
*Removed much of the character customization.
*Introduced the dialogue wheel from other games.
*Removed/changed the tactical view.
*Removed the toolset.

So if you disregard all the console vs pc arguments, potential sales numbers, etc, then one question remains: Why should I play this RPG instead of the competitors? What will this RPG have that other RPG´s don´t have? I really don´t know anymore. Can I still expect the same focus on game altering choices in the quests, or are they streamlining and simplifying that also?

 

[Gattsu25]

Spoiler

But what if I prefer using a controller?

Out of luck then. Nobody makes games, on any platform, that use controllers.

 

[Archie]

Spoiler

But what if I prefer using a controller?

That's the beauty of PC, you have choice. I played Alpha Protocol on the PC with a 360 controller and it worked out quite nicely.

 

[Owzers]

One thing I wonder about this title:

*They have removed the origin-stories.
*Removed much of the character customization.
*Introduced the dialogue wheel from other games.
*Removed/changed the tactical view.
*Removed the toolset.

So if you disregard all the console vs pc arguments, potential sales numbers, etc, then one question remains: Why should I play this RPG instead of the competitors? What will this RPG have that other RPG´s don´t have? I really don´t know anymore. Can I still expect the same focus on game altering choices in the quests, or are they streamlining and simplifying that also?

It will still probably be fun.

 

[TheSeks]

Why should I play this RPG instead of the competitors? What will this RPG have that other RPG´s don´t have?

Gay elf sex (that isn't even that good).

I think it's more LOL'ing at people who refer to themselves as "the master race".

Also this. I'm sick of PC GAF going into some console/multiplatform threads and going down the "Mouse/keyboard, 1080p, blah, blah, blah" checklist. We know. We don't care. It doesn't add anything to the discussion. Seriously.

Sucks about you guys not getting a toolset, as generally that's a benefit of PC gaming that I enjoy (minus the numerous nude mods) but ho-hum, what can you do? Bioware hasn't been that great since KotOR.

 

[DieH@rd]

MOTHERFUCKERS

 

[eznark]

It will still probably be fun.

Without tactical combat and origin stories Dragon Age would have been entirely forgettable.

 

[CecilRousso]

It will still probably be fun.

Of course, but there are tons of RPG games being released will be fun. Why should I choose this instead of others? And no, I don´t have time to play them all.

 

[Shaka]

Wait and see about what, exactly? They confirmed these changes.

Wait and see if the game's good? If some the changes work. I can understand why people would be mad, hell they have every right to be. I find cynicism in some cases funny, so what of it. I'm not even on Bioware's side, Sheesh! Put your torch down, I'm not your enemy.

Without tactical combat and origin stories Dragon Age would have been entirely forgettable.

I didn't like the tactical combat an I still enjoyed it.

 

[Fimbulvetr]

Gay elf sex (that isn't even that good).

Don't worry; none of the other sex scenes are very good anyway.

 

[WanderingWind]

Wait and see if the game's good? If some the changes work. I can understand why people would be mad, hell they have every right to be. I find cynicism in some cases funny, so what of it. I'm not even on Bioware's side, Sheesh! Put your torch down, I'm not your enemy.

Sigh. Your schtick is tiresome. Stop proclaiming rage everytime somebody quotes you. That post was in no way attacking you. Relax, Persecution Boy.

 

[2San]

Imagine the reverse, if a console game forced you to use keyboard/mouse rather than your comfortable controller!

That wouldn't happen though you know since dev's make most of their money on consoles. The major reason Dev's get away with shitty ports is because PC gamers buy those shitty ports anyway. No reason to walk that extra mile to keep the PC gamers happy.

 

[Cheech]

i seriously doubt ill be purchasing DA2 so your statement is incorrect.

You're in a DA2 thread on one of the biggest, most hardcore gaming forums. You're buying DA2.

The thing is, it's obvious the third person perspective is being tweaked. So why not wait and see what they do instead of flying off the handle?

 

[CecilRousso]

That wouldn't happen though you know since dev's make most of their money on consoles. The major reason Dev's get away with shitty ports is because PC gamers buy those shitty ports anyway. No reason to walk that extra mile to keep the PC gamers happy.

If you make certain type of games yes. But not all developers make those kind of games, not all can make those kind of games, and not all want to make those kind of games.

 

[WanderingWind]

You're in a DA2 thread on one of the biggest, most hardcore gaming forums. You're buying DA2.

By that logic, I'm also buying Kinect because I posted in a thread about it and Move. Which, apparently, I am now duty bound to buy. :lol

 

[2San]

If you make certain type of games yes. But not all developers make those kind of games, not all can make those kind of games, and not all want to make those kind of games.

Yeah, but were talking about Bioware here. And in the end most of the people complaining will buy the game anyway.

 

[Erasus]

Why remove the editor? Its not like I used it but other people make great mods with it.

 

[Cheech]

By that logic, I'm also buying Kinect because I posted in a thread about it and Move. Which, apparently, I am now duty bound to buy. :lol

Yeah, but were talking about Bioware here. And in the end most of the people complaining will buy the game anyway.

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[WanderingWind]

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You literally said nothing there. So, one other guy is repeating your odd point of view. That just means there are two wrong people in the world. Not that your shared wrongness somehow equates to right.

 

[Acheteedo]

They should be demanding better games with M/K controls

I'm not in the habit of demanding games with M/K controls because I much prefer the controller.

 

[Dennis]

Say goodbye your PC gaming

Only Blizzard left. But thats only matter of time to convert his fate on our console side

 

[Owzers]

Without tactical combat and origin stories Dragon Age would have been entirely forgettable.

console dragon age's problem was that the combat pretended to be tactical but it wasn't. If they are focusing on making it action orientated, it can be good. I also don't have high regards for the origin stories.

worst parts of Dragon Age iirc: Fade segment, Dragon fights being incredibly unbalanced, and combat not working for consoles.

best parts of Dragon Age: Party banter. Most of the main quests were interesting to some degree.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Wait and see if the game's good? If some the changes work. I can understand why people would be mad, hell they have every right to be. I find cynicism in some cases funny, so what of it. I'm not even on Bioware's side, Sheesh! Put your torch down, I'm not your enemy.

I didn't like the tactical combat an I still enjoyed it.

How would the changes work? You can try it with the over the shoulder view in DA1 and they already know they don't like it. What are they waiting for?

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Hey, I already asked you if you want to make a bet that every person in this thread will buy this game upon release like you keep claiming? Why not accept the bet instead of trolling?

 

[KUFI]

Look at Kufi's posts. He can barely type with a keyboard, you think he'd be able to play games?

keyboard..what keyboard? I type this with Dualshock on my PS3

 

[DodgyGeezerFella]

keyboard..what keyboard? I type this with Dualshock on my PS3

 

[Shaka]

Sigh. Your schtick is tiresome. Stop proclaiming rage everytime somebody quotes you. That post was in no way attacking you. Relax, Persecution Boy.

You're a bit of an arsehole mate :lol I have no beef with you WanderingWind. It's just your posts came across to me as passive aggressive. We're all having fun here, right?

How would the changes work? You can try it with the over the shoulder view in DA1 and they already know they don't like it. What are they waiting for?

I was talking about general game changes, not the cam and tools. Removing those is bullshit even though I never used them personally.

 

[Littleberu]

I'll never understand why console gamers relish in their PC brethren being shat upon. They should be demanding better games with M/K controls, overhead views and toolsets. Instead, they are actually gloating that a version of the game has been downgraded to match the low standards set by consoles. smh

You say "downgraded", I say "optimized".

 

[Archie]

You say "downgraded", I say "optimized".

Removing additional features is 'optimized'? lawl

(I done got trolled I know)

 

[eznark]

keyboard..what keyboard? I type this with Dualshock on my PS3

it's reflected in the quality of your posts

 

[KUFI]

it's reflected in the quality of your posts

top-notch, isnt?