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[Lunatic_Gamer]

Series X pulls off a full 4K at maximum, hitting a full 3840x2160 in light content, while PS5 appears to top out at 2880x1620 and Series S maxes out at 1920x1080. Series X is derived from One X, PS5 from PS4 Pro, and Series S from Xbox One. These seem to be the maximum figures available on last-gen machines - the pre-patch PS4 version running on PS5 also only reaches 1620p, for instance. I managed to find a lower bound of 1440p on Series X, 1152p on PS5, and 792p on Series S, though it's likely they could go lower under some circumstances. In general, Series X mostly renders around 1728p or so, PS5 is typically at 1440p or somewhat below, and Series S mostly hovers in the 900p - 1008p range. Cutscenes tend to feature lower resolution numbers than gameplay, particularly in cutscenes that heavily use depth of field.

The move from 30 to 60fps is the headline feature here, and it is delivered with surprising reliability. In most circumstances, Series S, X and PS5 all hug that 60fps line perfectly, without any dips or deviations. There are some exceptions though, and curiously most of them apply to all current-gen machines, from the powerful PS5 and Series X to the more constrained Series S.

Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Origins 60fps updates are transformative on PS5 and Series X/S

Digital Foundry's analysis of the 60fps 'next-gen' patches for Assassin's Creed Odyssey and Origins, tested on PS5, Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S.

www.eurogamer.net

 

[Topher]

Article for those who rather read:

Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Origins 60fps updates are transformative on PS5 and Series X/S

Digital Foundry's analysis of the 60fps 'next-gen' patches for Assassin's Creed Odyssey and Origins, tested on PS5, Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S.

www.eurogamer.net

 

[killatopak]

Is there a tldr:tldw?

 

[Trogdor1123]

Is there a bundle for both with all the dlc? I’d like to give it a go

 

[adamsapple]

TL - DR

Frame rate:

- All consoles hug 60 FPS very well but there are issues with duplicate frames after camera cuts on all platforms.
- Opening cut-scene in Origins and opening fight in Odyssey drops frames on all consoles to mid 50s.
- Some elements like physics on cloth are all still locked at 30 FPS. Not every element runs at 60hz.
- Pre-coded video file cut-scenes still 30 FPS on all and run with bad frame pacing.

- Series S runs Odyssey's real time cut-scenes at 30 FPS. PS5 and SX run them at 60.
- Series X can drop a few more frames during cut-scenes compared to PS5.
- Game play runs at 60 FPS on all of them, however.


Resolution:

Series X pulls off a full 4K at maximum, hitting a full 3840x2160 in light content, while PS5 appears to top out at 2880x1620 and Series S maxes out at 1920x1080. Series X is derived from One X, PS5 from PS4 Pro, and Series S from Xbox One.

In general, Series X mostly renders around 1728p or so, PS5 is typically at 1440p or somewhat below, and Series S mostly hovers in the 900p - 1008p range

The difference between PS5 and Series X is a bit unusual - we'd typically expect the two machines to be a bit closer, but the much lower top-end resolution on PS5 compromises the effort somewhat.

- Series X has a clarity advantage when looking at the general image and Series S suffers more than the others because of lower resolution and can have more image breakup.

 

[Ezekiel_]

Is there a tldr:tldw?

It's BC patch that unlocks to 60fps.

DRS is same as last gen versions.

Duplicate frame when cutscene camera cuts

 

[Skifi28]

Is there a tldr:tldw?

Graphics nice. 60fps good.

 

[adamsapple]

Graphics nice. 60fps good.

60 FPS does make a very big difference in these games.

100 hrs in Odyssey and 80~ hrs in Origins post patch can attest to that

 

[Topher]

Platinumed the game on PS5. They did a great job with the patch. 60fps makes a huge difference.

 

[intbal]

Their engine and art worked really well together in these games.
Even at the low resolutions of Series S (aka One S), Odyssey and Origins are visually attractive.

 

[Stuart360]

Honestly Origins and Odyssey are 2 of the best games from last gen (Odyssey my fave game from last gen). If you like Witcher 3 style rpg's then you cant much bigger or better than these 2 games.
Its a shame so many people have a Ubisoft hate boner that these games dont get the respect they deserve, although game sales show the masses dont care about the silly Ubi hate.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Is there a hardcore technical reason why prerecorded cut scenes can’t be better than 30 fps when there rest of the game is?

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Honestly Origins and Odyssey are 2 of the best games from last gen (Odyssey my fave game from last gen). If you like Witcher 3 style rpg's then you cant much bigger or better than these 2 games.
Its a shame so many people have a Ubisoft hate boner that these games dont get the respect they deserve, although game sales show the masses dont care about the silly Ubi hate.

Yep, the average gamer loves these Ubisoft games. I like them too but can only play one game every two or three years because they are very same-y after all.

 

[crunchyBiscuits]

Would be cool if they gave Unity some love. That and Syndicate were the last true AC games

 

[Topher]

Yep, the average gamer loves these Ubisoft games. I like them too but can only play one game every two or three years because they are very same-y after all.

I’m a sucker for these games. I wish Ubi would push out frame rate patches for Syndicate, Black Flag, and Unity as well.

 

[assurdum]

Another one!

Lol

It's incredible with the excuse of "your" irony you always push the other to make console war in thread like this with the same provocatory sentence.

 

[Topher]

It's incredible with the excuse of "your" irony you always push the other to make console war in thread like this with the same provocatory sentence.

Seems pretty clear he is joking

 

[assurdum]

Seems pretty clear he is joking

Yeah he joking regularly in every single thread about it.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Yeah he joking regularly in every single thread about it.

It's just a meme bro. You can use it too the next time PS wins.

 

[Lysandros]

It is a simple BC FPS unlock patch, as OP mentioned new consoles are constrained to PS4 PRO/OneX resolutions as always.

 

[assurdum]

It's just a meme bro. You can use it too the next time PS wins.

Don't worry. I don't.

 

[Roberts]

I’m a sucker for these games. I wish Ubi would push out frame rate patches for Syndicate, Black Flag, and Unity as well.

Unity is FPS Boosted on Xbox, btw.

 

[Topher]

Unity is FPS Boosted on Xbox, btw.

Yeah, I own both games on PC, but I’d want it PS5 so I can get that Platinum.

 

[DaGwaphics]

Is there a hardcore technical reason why prerecorded cut scenes can’t be better than 30 fps when there rest of the game is?

Maybe they just didn't want to take the time to go back and prerecord them at a faster rate.

I don't know how much work that would be. Would they need to change the animations, etc.?

 

[adamsapple]

I’m a sucker for these games. I wish Ubi would push out frame rate patches for Syndicate, Black Flag, and Unity as well.

isn't Black Flag already 60 FPS owing it to being that on the PS4 ?

 

[Riky]

They both still run off an old HDD on Series consoles, it's the most basic of patch but still welcome for older games.
60fps makes a big difference.

 

[DenchDeckard]

It's incredible with the excuse of "your" irony you always push the other to make console war in thread like this with the same provocatory sentence.

I use it in every thread, no matter who "wins".

It's just a complete joke at this point.

 

[Topher]

isn't Black Flag already 60 FPS owing it to being that on the PS4 ?

Don’t think so. It was originally 30fps on PS4 and I don’t think it ever got a frame rate patch

 

[adamsapple]

Don’t think so. It was originally 30fps on PS4 and I don’t think it ever got a frame rate patch

Wow, total mandela effect moment. I could swear BF was 60 FPS on PS4 and XBO as it was a cross-gen title at that time.

 

[saintjules]

Need to revisit both titles. I have Origins on PS and Odyssey on Xbox. Best of both.

 

[graywolf323]

kinda ridiculous that Ubi didn’t also increase the resolution with these patches for PS5 & Series S

 

[UltimaKilo]

Good video. I don't play very long games anymore, but I might give it a shot with GamePass.

 

[Kilau]

Really wish Ubi could unlock the frame rate for FC5 next.

 

[Elginer]

I really wish they would unlock syndicate and unity

 

[adamsapple]

Really wish Ubi could unlock the frame rate for FC5 next.

Already FPS boosted on Xbox at least.

 

[Kilau]

Already FPS boosted on Xbox at least.

Yeah but not on the 4K mode it’s, 60FPS at 1440x1080 which looks pretty bad.

 

[adamsapple]

Yeah but not on the 4K mode it’s, 60FPS at 1440x1080 which looks pretty bad.

True, true. Ubi stuff is a bit of a weird mish mash.

AC3 remastered needs to drop to One S resolution for FPS boost, while the Ezio Collection and AC Rogue Remastered runs at 2160p/60 FPS with FPS boost.

It's weird.

 

[tusharngf]

Is it me or the video on youtube only shows me 1080p resolution?

 

[adamsapple]

Is it me or the video on youtube only shows me 1080p resolution?

Yes, Youtube often takes a long time to put up the 2160p version.

 

[adamsapple]

Is there a bundle for both with all the dlc? I’d like to give it a go

Unfortunately no bundles for both with DLC. Usually the season passes for these games sells for $39.99 itself, but it's often on sale for $15 every now and then.

But if you are on Xbox, the Gold versions for Odyssey is on a big sale right now. $24.99 for something that usually sells around $100.

link

 

[papersleeves]

kinda ridiculous that Ubi didn’t also increase the resolution with these patches for PS5 & Series S

Sure but both versions do not manage to hold their theoretical maximum resolutions as of now so what's the point? Especially the PS5 which has a max resolution of 1620p yet the game typically displays around 1440p or so. Seems like it doesn't really matter anyway. The series X barely manages to hit 2160p in very few spots and typically stays around 1728p so they could have dropped the max resolution to 1800p for all we care.

 

[Gaelyon]

I've plat Odyssey on PS4 during 20's covid lockdown, it's my favorite assassin's creed game, Cassandra is so cool. Didn't do the DLCs so maybe i should try on PS5.. Hopefully the loading times are cut down as it was my only gripes.

 

[Bojji]

True, true. Ubi stuff is a bit of a weird mish mash.

AC3 remastered needs to drop to One S resolution for FPS boost, while the Ezio Collection and AC Rogue Remastered runs at 2160p/60 FPS with FPS boost.

It's weird.

Ezio is probably 1080p with fps boost or without, PS4 pro version is the only one with 4k support.

 

[adamsapple]

Ezio is probably 1080p with fps boost or without, PS4 pro version is the only one with 4k support.

You're right, Ezio never got a One X patch in the first place so it's stuck at 1080p.

Rogue Remastered is the one that got a 4K One X patch then an FPS patch later.

 

[sachos]

Would be cool if they gave Unity some love. That and Syndicate were the last true AC games

It would be cool to at least get a patch for Syndicate so it works on PS5, the shadow/light bug is really annoying.

 

[Negotiator101]

Unity is FPS Boosted on Xbox, btw.

Isn't that only on the original disc version without an update? Or am I thinking of something else

 

[adamsapple]

Isn't that only on the original disc version without an update? Or am I thinking of something else

No, it got an official FPS boost update even for the fully patched version.

On PS5, you can play the PS4 disc version without any updates at 60 FPS but you don't get any of the patches and fixes, so the game will be prone to breaking a lot. They added a 30 FPS cap in the post launch updates so if you update the game, you get locked at 30 FPS.

 

[Negotiator101]

No, it got an official FPS boost update even for the fully patched version.

On PS5, you can play the PS4 disc version without any updates at 60 FPS but you don't get any of the patches and fixes, so the game will be prone to breaking a lot. They added a 30 FPS cap in the post launch updates so if you update the game, you get locked at 30 FPS.

Still 900p though?

 

[Lokaum D+]

How ps5 cant pull 4k on those games ?

 

[adamsapple]

Still 900p though?

Yep, game never got Pro or One X updates unfortunately.

A fully patched Unity is a much better game than Syndicate IMO, so it's a damn shame.