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Breaking: International sanctions against Iran lifted
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titiklabingapat
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Oil prices will go even lower then.
I have already answered to exactly that in my previous post.
You should be looking at both. "But the saudi's are doing it as well" isn't a good excuse for sponsoring terrorism.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
The majority of the 9/11 attackers were Saudis for starters.
Edit: Shit, beaten handily by gutter_trash.
TheLostBigBoss
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Angry old white people who have been told that for decades that Iran is going to blow up Israel think that Iran is going to blow up Israel so the Republicans have no choice but to continue the path they have been going.
paperboywriter
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there is a difference between national militaries and terrorist networks.
vpance
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I bet up, people knew this deal was in the works for months. It will be buy on news after the sell on rumor.
Proof of what? That Hezbollah, IRGC, Iraqi Militias and Houthis are fighting ISIS and AQ?
Or Saudi state sponsored terrorism? Saudi army is fighting side by side with AQ in Yemen against Iranian backed Houthis, Saudi weapons are being used by Jabhat Al Nusra, AQ in Syria. They publicly backed Ahrar Al Sham and Jaysh al Sham, AQ inspired groups in Syria.
They have been bombing the poorest Arab nation on earth to dust for well over 6 months with billions of dollars in weapons and munitions but have yet to bomb a single ISIS or AQ target.
Just read the news.
TheLostBigBoss
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The US wasn't facing a national military in Iraq for the vast majority of the war.
I'm not saying that Iran doesn't fund it's fair share of networks, I'm simply pointing out that saying this deal is going to open up a new age of terrorism because the sanctions are lifting is a silly concept and a talking point to go against negotiations.
Abinash117
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I think they are still some restriction and some sanctions for US citizens and business to trade with Iran.
Iran will probably use a lot of the money to rebuild, but I can see some of that being spent on foreign activists if that happens the Saudi Arabia will have more conflicts with them. Although, it probably won't be immediately . Either way I see the US will have still have issues with Iran when it comes to foreign policies( especially if Iran still feel the need to destroy Israel), but Obama, publically will try to build better relations without trying to sideline the gulf nations and Israel. I doubt he will be successful and the next president will probably more aggressive with Iran.
paperboywriter
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so saudi arabia admitted to 9/11. thats new to me!
srsly, since when is nationality important when in comes to terrorist groups.
Big Green Anus
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What are the reasons why Saudi Arabia hates Iran so much?
gutter_trash
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when money from Saudi Princes fill up the coffers of Saudi born Osama bin Laden
Historical, religious, cultural, ethnical differences that have fostered prejudice and mistrust over centuries. The fact that they are now competing powers in the ME doesn't help, either.
Shia vs Sunni is the major one, coupled with the battle for regional influence via proxy wars, oil and ethnicity (Arabs vs. Persians).
Big Green Anus
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Did America did anything to saudi arabia for this? Perhaps, any sanctions on Saudi Arabia?
ew no
Darkangel
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But did not dozens of republican politicans (who did not actually read the deal) predicted that THIS WAS NOT A GOOD DEAL????!
Damn it.! He cant keep getting away with it...oh, it has been posted already, yep
To be fair, it will be a few years before we find out if it was a good deal or not. As long as Iran doesn't develop nuclear weapons I'm happy.
gutter_trash
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I thought it was sell on news? Bad or good.
KurtSloane
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Via the CIA the US has sponsored much terrorists around the world.
Cant hold Iran to account for things that others do and are not held to account for.
paperboywriter
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source pls
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
No, but it's no surprise considering the historical relationship between them and the United States.
There was a a fantastic special on that, I can't remember the name but it's on my HDD. I'll get the name for you in a bit if I can find it.
KurtSloane
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The Houthis, Hezbollah, Iraqi Militas etc are all guilty of awful acts of terrorism and sectarian acts. Nobody lilly white around here.
google.com
Eh, I can live without them. I usually buy games on sale nowadays anyway unless it's suuuper important.
But yeah, it doesn't change the fact that most other products are still gonna be a shitshow.
KurtSloane
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Bitter Lake on BBC iplayer is a fantastic piece about the Saudi / US relationship and its affect on the world.
vpance
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It can be both. It's the opposite of what you think will happen, at least for a little while.
Meanwhile everyone has already traded the move you think will happen, prior to the announcement, as in the sell/buy on rumor first step.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
That's it, beat my own HDD search, haha:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitter_Lake_(film)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pn2z7zp1V0
gutter_trash
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Jeffolation
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Netanyahu must be thrilled.
The spin thus far has been that we're turning our backs on Israel which is silly.
KurtSloane
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If there was ever a country worth turning your back on, Israel is one of them.
Single greatest factor in the destabilisation of the Middle East and propagators of a slow destruction of a people and their land.
Those groups do not have mass murder and genocide justified in their creed or ideology, unlike ISIS and AQ, an ideology that they inherited from the Saudis, an ideology of hate and sectarianism that is being taught in schools across the kingdom which makes it a breeding ground for ISIS and AQ wannabee terrorists.
Those Shia groups are as much terrorists as the US and Western governments with their targeted killings via drones, indiscriminate bombardment and clandestine activities.
cosmicblizzard
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Neat. Hopefully it won't take TOO long for some of those abysmal human rights violations to disappear. Would also like to visit the country if it ever becomes legal.
ZiZ
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no need for a source when dissing Saudi Arabia.
Iran is a theocracy that supports many armed terrorist groups, it also has an execution rate that is more than 3 times higher than Saudi Arabia.
but fuck Saudi Arabia, am I right?
Abinash117
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Turning our back on Israel or Saudi Arabia will just make them unhinged and more prone to chaos than they are( if anyone think so) now.
KurtSloane
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Lol, murdering Sunni civilians during the Maliki years, crimes against civilians in Syria, Sunni civilians at that. Remember the acts by the army of the Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, the Mahdi Army that engaged in operating death squads against Sunni civilians during the Iraq war?
Shia groups are responsible for awful acts in many theatres, in many countries. Iran backed Assad and he killed many a Sunni civilian. Whether idealogical or not makes no difference, hate is hate.
TheLostBigBoss
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Israel has had the support of the West forever and they continue to fuck shit up and prevent any possibility of peace with Palestine. Telling them to jog on when the rest of the world has a once in a lifetime opportunity is the absolutely correct thing to do
Or the invasion of a country based on lies, or intentionally destroying the infrastructure and water supply of that country almost a decade earlier, or placing sanctions as a collective punishment killing half a million children and saying it was worth it in that country, or supporting the very same regime they removed fro mthat country to come to power, resulting in the deaths of several thousands people or....
that's only one country.
cosmicblizzard
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Considering there are plenty of factors for the destabilization in the region and that several ME countries have come out and said they care little for the plight of the Palestinians, I'm gonna disagree with this.
It's definitely a factor though.
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