9700k at stock lol. 3700x wins? OK... Overclocking 3700x yields 1-4%, MAYBE.
Try that benchmark on 3900x vs 9900k with a 2080ti and tell me the result isn't different. Go ahead, I'll wait.
I wanted the 3700x to be the best pure gaming chip under $350. Believe me, I did. I bought and returned one because it wasn't.
No horse in this race, I just noticed that for the games I play, a 9700k at 5.0ghz is still noticeably better for not that much more money. Let's not even mention the 3800x which is a joke
All what you're asking for has already been provided in this thread, I've linked them...….3900x vs 9900k (SMT and OFF), I've done that...
3600/X SMT OFF/ON vs 9400/9700
3700X SMT OFF/ON vs 9700k/9900k
3800X SMT OFF/ON vs 9700k/9900k
3900X SMT OFF/ON vs 9700k/9900k
I have linked several of these combos and comparisons...….Some games benefit from the extra threads like Battlefield and SOTTR but the majority of the games favor higher IPC, with SMT off, that probably means lesser latency across the CCX's on Ryzen....Pretty much all the other games benefit with SMT off, like Fortnite, Origins, Project Cars, CSGO, World War Z, GTAV......On Ryzen, the average framerate is typically higher with better 1% lows in the majority of titles...…..The videos are right there, all you have to do is watch them...….
Without SMT, the overall advantage the intel CPU's had were minimal at best, with SMT off Ryzen takes the lead with lesser clock frequency and higher IPC.....When more games like Battlefield and Crysis 3 and SOTTR start emerging, or perhaps titles using multi threads even better, then intel will lose by a much bigger margin on average......And what about, when you want to game and stream, what about when you want the best results for your productivity suite? Funny that no one is talking about power consumption right now......Intel's new Xeons has a TDP of 400W, that new 9900k Super they are coming up with at 5+ Ghz on all cores will be good enough to light up the whole of Arizona.....but no one mentions it.....
One thing you should keep in mind, an OC of Intel CPU's does not give them any lead over Ryzen if Ryzen is OC'd too. Then there's even more performance from Ryzen if you do manual timings of your memory......There isn't one scenario where intel is sitting pretty, not in perf to cost, not in power consumption, not in productivity, not in gaming.......Ryzen does not need 5Ghz to beat intel, just turn SMT off on all these Ubisoft and high frequency favored games, then you will see how superior Ryzens IPC is.....at lower clocks vs 5ghz on all cores on intel....
But disabling SMT and Hyperthreading is a bad idea in general in this day of age. Unless you play really old games which at that point it doesn't matter anyway as performance is high enough. Because it will massively interfear is smooth gameplay and if you use extra programs behind it yea good luck with that.
Well if you have an intel CPU, that's a very good idea, since many of it's vulnerabilities comes through HT....
Yet, AMD is fine with SMT ON or OFF, with whatever setting you're getting more performance in your application, there's no need to worry.....Yet the funny thing is how you are now a proponent of more cores......Why turn SMT OFF and get more performance on games, where the majority of games even now favor (Higher IPC + Frequency)? You don't say!.........And here you are talking about stuttering in games as if a higher core count benefits, Far Cry series, Origins, GTA, World War Z, Resident Evil 2, Devil May Cry, Witcher, Fortnite and the list goes on and on, in many highly played and modern titles....
You are a proponent of more cores now, only (because gamers are able to get more perf in many games with SMT off on Ryzen 3000)...How oddly concerned you are, all of a sudden.......Yet, were you as concerned when all intel gave us was 4 physical cores on an I7 all these years.......Hell, we would still be on 4 cores had it not been for Ryzen.......So no need to preach about stuttering, Ryzen owners have been enjoying stutter free gaming + gaming with streaming for more than a minute now......We know... Today, Ryzen 1 vs an i5 is not a pretty picture.......If Ryzen 3000 is doing so well now vs 9900k, when the games actually use the cores and the higher IPC of Ryzen, it will be the same scenario as Ryzen 1 vs i5's stutter city mix....