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[TheOohChild]

I feel like they could have benefited more from a guard like Mudiay.

I mean these are the point guards on Philly's payroll right now:

Tony Wroten
Isaiah Canaan

So I dunno. Okafor is a beast though. Maybe they've lost confidence in Embiid.

We also have Pappy Jack

 

[The Last Wizard]

The reaction was disgusting? Are you talking about the booing because that's what New York fans do at every draft.

I don't remember them boing last year.

 

[JJDinomite]

I wish Kaminsky came to Milwaukee.

Clearly Charlotte doesn't want him.

 

[Bowser]

I wish Kaminsky came to Milwaukee.

Clearly Charlotte doesn't want him.

Shit, I'll take Rashad Vaughn, let's trade lol

 

[LyleLanley]

I can't wait until the Sixers draft another center third overall next year.

 

[JJDinomite]

Shit, I'll take Rashad Vaughn, let's trade lol

Deal. I'll contact Scott Walker ASAP.

 

[effzee]

I can't wait until the Sixers draft another center third overall next year.

3rd? Lol we will be picking first overall!

 

[Forceatowulf]

Well now.. turns out Larry Nance is a Kobe-Stan and was just making a shitty sarcastic joke. Dude is on the Mamba's jock harder than me... Wat

http://i.imgur.com/l9r8vus.png
http://i.imgur.com/QXTgweW.png
http://i.imgur.com/TfStGTo.png

Credit to Lakersground for finding it.

Now why do I get this feeling that the media and many basketball fans who like artificial drama will pretend like this wasn't just an obviously poor tasteless joke and continues to believe that the guy was really going after Kobe, whom he clearly adores...

 

[LyleLanley]

3rd? Lol we will be picking first overall!

The tradition must continue.

 

[Edwardo]

I'm just worried the Celtics won't pick up a guard in free agency.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Charlotte's front office would just like to fast forward through the next couple of days

Bill Simmons @BllSimmons 10m
"And Justise for All" (@30for30 ad): "What if I told you Michael Jordan passed up Boston's mega-Godfather offer for... Frank Kaminsky?"

 

[BadAss2961]

victoria ‏@CountOnVic 13h13 hours ago
Knicks fans should walk behind Phil Jackson
Shame ��
Shame ��
Shame ��
Shame ��

lol

Charlotte's front office would just like to fast forward through the next couple of days

What did Boston offer?

 

[LyleLanley]

I'm just worried the Celtics won't pick up a guard in free agency.

Are there any free agents under 6' that have no offensive talent?

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

Charlotte's front office would just like to fast forward through the next couple of days

I knew MJ and co were bad at this but, man, as much as i crossed my fingers hoping they'd pass on Winslow for the Tank i didn't actually see that happening. I guess MJ owed us for what a bust Napier ended up being.

 

[User 479360]

I hope the Raptors chose wisely. I know nothing about basketball, though.

 

[Cheddahz]

 

[Randolph Freelander]

lol

What did Boston offer?

No idea. There was talk of a mega offer from Boston earlier in the day to move up to 3, and then there was talk about Boston (and other teams) trying to get to 9 before the Hornets made the pick. Simmons is probably putting those rumors together a bit.

 

[Bowser]

Simmons is full of shit. Mega-godfather offer my ass. Boston was probably offering 16 and 28 or Sullinger for Charlotte's pick. No one would think that's a "mega-godfather" offer.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 4m4 minutes ago
2015 NBA Draft Grades for all 30 teams: The Heat with an A+ draft. http://es.pn/1dleoNO (in)

^

 

[fertygo]

A+ Because lucky as fuck, sure

 

[FriedConsole]

Are there any free agents under 6' that have no offensive talent?

Brutal. Rondo is a free agent after being the failed future of the Mavs.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

^

Grades from the article, and some of the capsules (there's one for every team in the article, click to read them all)

Atlanta C-
Boston B
Brooklyn A-
Charlotte C+

Kaminsky was sort of a love or hate prospect for NBA scouts. I sat somewhere in the middle. If the Hornets drafted Kaminsky thinking he would be a nice replacement for Josh McRoberts -- a playmaking, stretch 4 -- then I think they'll be happy. They really missed what McRoberts brought to the table and while Kaminsky isn't the athlete McRoberts was, he's a better shooter. If they're expecting more than that, I think they'll be disappointed. They get knocked down a grade because they passed on a superior prospect in Justise Winslow. Even though Winslow wasn't as great of a fit as Kaminsky (he duplicates a lot of what Michael Kidd-Gilchrist brings to the table), Winslow is such a talent, I think you take him and figure it out later. The Hornets got future second-rounders from the Nets in 2018 and 2019 in return for Vaulet.

Chicago B
Cleveland B-
Dallas B
Denver A
Detroit C

The Pistons had a major hole to fill at the small forward spot and were determined to draft for need over talent. They wanted a wing who could shoot, defend and, most importantly, play right now. I just believe they drafted the wrong guy. As I noted in my Winners and Losers column, I think the Pistons drafted a guy who looks the part over someone who is the part. Johnson has a NBA body and a great reputation as a winner. But in almost every way, Winslow is the superior player. He's a better athlete, has a better motor, plays with more grit and even shoots it better when he gets his feet set. Johnson is bigger and a better shooter off the bounce. But I think in a few years this draft will look a bit like the Rockets selecting Marcus Morris ahead of Kawhi Leonard. As for Hilliard, he's a crafty scorer and a good shooter, but he's not a great athlete. He, too, was a bit of a reach at No. 38 with players like Joseph Young and Olivier Hanlan on the board.

Golden State A
Houston A-
Indiana B
LA Clippers A
LA Lakers B+
Memphis B-
Miami A+

Winslow landing at No. 10 reminds me a lot of when Kawhi Leonard fell to the Spurs at No. 15 in 2011. Some things are meant to be for both player and team. Winslow is a perfect fit, as a player and a person, into the culture Pat Riley has built in Miami. He'll not only thrive there as a player, he'll have a chance to win now surrounded by Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and Goran Dragic. While Winslow isn't the type of player that carries a team offensively, he's the glue guy who makes everyone better, does all the little things, and plays with toughness. He has a high basketball IQ and is relentless at working on his game and getting better. I think he could be a Leonard-type player someday. Richardson is a versatile, athletic guard who can play the 1 and the 2. He was another draft sleeper for me. The Heat just seriously upgraded their wings.

Milwaukee B
Minnesota A
New Orleans B
New York A-
Oklahoma City B+
Orlando A
Philadelphia B-
Phoenix B
Portland B-
Sacramento B-
San Antonio C
Toronto B
Utah B+
Washington A-

 

[Servbot24]

A+ Because lucky as fuck, sure

A lot of this game is about taking advantage of your opponent's mistakes

Speaking of which, I foresee a lot of crow in GAF's future re: Frank!

 

[TangoAlphaLima]

A+ Because lucky as fuck, sure

True, but at least they were smart enough to take Winslow. He would have been an A+ pick at 6, 8, or 9 as well (Mudiay is a legit talent, so I won't throw any shade on the Nuggets for taking him over Winslow).

 

[Jon]

Hinkie just had his press conference and gave some comments about Embiid. It sounds ominous, to say the least, but they will know more after another checkup in a week with Bob Anderson in Charlotte. I would not be surprised if he has another surgery and then the logjam in the frontcourt is delayed one more year for the Sixers.

 

[nillapuddin]

#BBN

At one point last night, there were 5 UK players on the Suns

Andrew, Archie, Bledsoe, Brandon and Devin

That woulda been awesome.

Memphis is gunna love Andrew, I bet he has a long NBA career as a backup PG.

Devin is going to do great in Phoenix with those PG's

Lyles to the Jazz, I know absolutely nothing about them. Hopefully they are good?

WCS and Cousins, I hope they can stay together, the UK fan boost will be crazy.

Dakari to the Thunder, I have no idea how he fits into that mix, I hope he can do his thing (be big and tall) there a few minutes every now and again.

Karl is an absolute stud that will perform at a high level for a long long time. His BB IQ, character, work ethic, etc etc is off the charts.

I am so sad for Aaron

 

[Gully State]

So what's the deal with Kevon Looney? Seems like he's got a big red flag medical wise but all the analyst call this a good pick. I haven't paid attention to college ball this year.

 

[Bowser]

So what's the deal with Kevon Looney? Seems like he's got a big red flag medical wise but all the analyst call this a good pick. I haven't paid attention to college ball this year.

Apparently he dropped because some teams think he may have a degenerative back issue that will require surgery.

 

[The Last Wizard]

These people are pathetic, it's not even that serious. Let's see how the dude turns out.

 

[Bowser]

Trying to talk myself into Frank the Tank. Both Pelton and Draft Express' Mike Schmitz are high on him.

Pelton had him ranked as the 7th best prospect based on analytics:

7. Frank Kaminsky, C, Wisconsin

Consensus: 2.4 WARP | Big Board: 14 | WARP: 5

While age has historically been an important factor in draft prospects' potential, consider Kaminsky exhibit A that seniors can rate well, too. His 2.7 WARP projection is the best for a senior since Draymond Green (2.8) and Jae Crowder (2.7) in 2012.

Schmitz said:

Mike Schmitz ‏@Mike_Schmitz 15h15 hours ago
Frank 1 of the most NBA-ready players in the draft. Big fan. 7' 1" shoots, puts it down, handles, passes.

Mike Schmitz ‏@Mike_Schmitz 15h15 hours ago
Kaminsky is very underrated as a perimeter defender. Will be best at the 4 IMO. Will guard P/R. Gets knocked because he's goofy. Seriously.

pls pan out frank

 

[Forceatowulf]

Well hot Damn, this Anthony Brown kid might be a real steal. Watching his highlights, scouting reports, and history has impressed me. I think I like him more than Justin Anderson actually. heh

Defensive potential
Great shooter
Athletic
Smart
Passes well
decent Handles
Life long Laker fan

Might just bump my grade for the Lakes tonight from a B+ to A-

 

[Cagey]

"He's really awkward. It's looks like he's playing QWOP."

- Friend rubbing it in to me after the Knicks picked Porzingis.

 

[Liquidsnake]

I don't like Okafor's demeanor. Something about him doesn't present well.

Im glad we went with Russell.

 

[LyleLanley]

I don't like Okafor's demeanor. Something about him doesn't present well.

Im glad we went with Russell.

Being turned into another asset for Hinkie to toy with will do that to a person.

 

[Fjordson]

So what's the deal with Kevon Looney? Seems like he's got a big red flag medical wise but all the analyst call this a good pick. I haven't paid attention to college ball this year.

He is a pretty nice pick. 6-9, long wingspan, can hit threes and rebound. Does some things similar to Draymond (though he's not as strong or on that tier as a defender). Can guard multiple positions and could fit in well.

But yeah, he's got a back issue that will probably need surgery, so we just have to hope he can come back from that.

 

[TangoAlphaLima]

Being turned into another asset for Hinkie to toy with will do that to a person.

Thinking you're going to L.A., only to find out you're actually going to Philly can also do that to a man.

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

I don't like Okafor's demeanor. Something about him doesn't present well.

Im glad we went with Russell.

I agree. He sort of reminds me of Bynum, interestingly enough.

 

[Liquidsnake]

Thinking you're going to L.A., only to find out you're actually going to Philly can also do that to a man.

He looked bummed. I felt bad for him. He might turn out to be one hell of a payer. he is very Tim Duncan like.

But Russell was the right choice for LA. (for us)

 

[Doc Holliday]

I agree. He sort of reminds me of Bynum, interestingly enough.

I think Okafor will be all right. He's taller Elton Brand with a better post up game.

 

[LyleLanley]

I agree. He sort of reminds me of Bynum, interestingly enough.

He looked bummed because he went to a shit team that only cares about maximizing his trade value and not about actually winning. I think it's a bit early to start comparing him to Bynum. And yes, learning that you're going to Philly instead of LA doesn't help much either.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Colin Cowherd is awful but he just called Porzingis a "breadstick in tennis shoes". Hilarious.

 

[Bowser]

Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA 8m8 minutes ago
Zach Lowe retweeted Ben Swanson
This is true. CHA turned down a major haul for No. 9, BOS was going full throttle for Winslow, per sources.

 

[Gully State]

He is a pretty nice pick. 6-9, long wingspan, can hit threes and rebound. Does some things similar to Draymond (though he's not as strong or on that tier as a defender). Can guard multiple positions and could fit in well.

But yeah, he's got a back issue that will probably need surgery, so we just have to hope he can come back from that.

Apparently he dropped because some teams think he may have a degenerative back issue that will require surgery.

That explains why he looked so stiff and "frankenstein" like during the draft. Honestly on that impression alone, I didn't like what I saw but again I don't know shit to make a decision one way or another (plus it's not like we actually need him- he'll be fighting for a roster spot). Hopefully, he got the Jerry West seal of approval.

 

[PBY]

Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA 8m8 minutes ago
Zach Lowe retweeted Ben Swanson
This is true. CHA turned down a major haul for No. 9, BOS was going full throttle for Winslow, per sources.

LOL HEAT FAM SO LUCKY

SO TO FRANK THE TANK COMMANDER

 

[LyleLanley]

If the Hornets really love Kaminsky that much then good for them but that seems like a choice they're going to regret.

 

[TangoAlphaLima]

Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA 8m8 minutes ago
Zach Lowe retweeted Ben Swanson
This is true. CHA turned down a major haul for No. 9, BOS was going full throttle for Winslow, per sources.

Wow. Presumably that means at least #16 from this year's draft, plus an unprotected Nets 1st rounder, and the Hornets turned it down?

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

I wanna see if that spin move layup that Frank was cheesing in the championship game is gonna work in the pros.

 

[phanphare]

If the Hornets really love Kaminsky that much then good for them but that seems like a choice they're going to regret.

it wouldn't be a proper charlotte draft without a little bit of regret

hopefully he pans out but ehh..

 

[MetalFearSolid]

So what's the deal with Kevon Looney? Seems like he's got a big red flag medical wise but all the analyst call this a good pick. I haven't paid attention to college ball this year.

Apparently, Raptors wanted to trade for another first rounder to get him but couldn't.

 

[Bowser]

Although I do wonder how much those unprotected Nets picks are worth...given that the Nets know they can't tank, I get the sense they're never going to blow it up and will just perpetually chase the 7th/8th spot in the East playoffs, meaning those picks are always gonna fall around 15-16.

*keeps talking himself into Frank the Tank*

Frank Kaminsky, 7’1” center, Wisconsin: “He’s a rare senior with upside. He has shown he can improve year by year, which leads you to believe he can develop even more. People ask if he’s athletic enough. He measured 7'1/2" in Chicago. How athletic do you have to be? I love that kid. He’s a matchup nightmare. His ballhandling separates him from most bigs. You’re going to be able to do so many unique things with him. He’s odd in a very good way. You just don’t see guys like that every day.”

http://www.si.com/college-basketbal...orts-jahlil-okafor-karl-towns-emmanuel-mudiay