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Actor Philip Seymour Hoffman found dead in Manhattan apartment.

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injurai said:
It is senseless, but it's an addiction.
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It's an addiction once you start taking it, so don't start taking it. Pretty good way to avoid getting addicted. I know if I gambled I'd get hooked really badly so I don't do it.

Very sad news, but it's such a waste of a life.
 
Night_Trekker said:
I really feel PSH was one of the greatest actors of our age. He'll be sorely missed, by loved ones and by cinema alike. Rest in peace.

Any PSH fan who hasn't seen it should watch Synecdoche, New York. I hate ranking things that I love because I'm bad at it, but Synecdoche, New York is without question one of the top 5 movies I've seen in my life thus far. And, of course, PSH brings it.
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You have immaculate taste.

RIP
 
How does a guy like him even get heroin? A family man with 3 kids doing heroin regularly? WTF?!

Charlie Sheen I expect. Not Philip Seymour Hoffman.
 
Terrible news. I haven't seen everything he's in, but everything I have he's never anything less than wonderful. It's no understatement to say he's one of the very best actors of this generation, and - possibly fuelled by this tragedy, but deserving nevertheless - he may go down as one of the greatest of all generations. Truly someone who was so entertaining and captivating on screen that these silly little things known as movies meant something more, became something more. An incredible performer. Thoughts with his family and loved ones.
 
Truly magnificent actor. I was completely shocked by this.

I looked forward to films he is in. Probably one of my favourite actors.

Then I heard he had three small children, thats the worst part now.

Not even going to comment on those twitter posts and the people in this thread commenting about addiction/heroin etc.

Just terrible news entirely.
 
SirMossyBloke said:
Gonna watch Owning Mahony tonight. Probably his best movie and performance in my eyes.
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Bravo!

The scene where he stands up, triumphant over his winnings, is one of my favorite moments in cinema. It's so rare to meet anyone who's ever appreciated that film.

I personally will be watching Love Liza tonight. If I can watch a second, it will be Owning Mahowny.

PSH defines range. I hate to say it, but even Daniel Day-Lewis isn't on same level Phillip was.
 
Oh, come the fuck on =(
One of the greatest actors of his generation.

RIP, man. I'll miss your work.
 
Wow...this has hit me hard. RIP PSH you will live on through your incredible movies. I wish I could have helped you with your problems. I'm writing a paper on the failure of the war on drugs, and this has given me more motivation to finish it and try to educate more people on better ways of helping others with addiction rather than treating them like criminals and low life scum.
 
Night_Trekker said:
I really feel PSH was one of the greatest actors of our age. He'll be sorely missed, by loved ones and by cinema alike. Rest in peace.

Any PSH fan who hasn't seen it should watch Synecdoche, New York. I hate ranking things that I love because I'm bad at it, but Synecdoche, New York is without question one of the top 5 movies I've seen in my life thus far. And, of course, PSH brings it.
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Agreed. Synecdoche is one of my favorites and PSH is phenomenal in it.
 
With heroin overdoses is it often intentional? Or can an overdose come from a previously "safe" amount, I used safe in the sense that alot of celebrity deaths are OD's and having never used heroin I wonder whether people intentionally take too much or if you can never account for how a dose will react with the body, even if its had many prior experiences.
 
:(

RIP one of the best actors of our era

He paid the hardest toll for those amazing, all-out performances he entertained us with. Such an amazing talent.
 
Coins said:
CNN says eight empty bags were found next to him? That sounds like a lot. Was he depressed or suffering from another mental illness?

RIP
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That is a huge amount.

Mr Cola said:
With heroin overdoses is it often intentional? Or can an overdose come from a previously "safe" amount, I used safe in the sense that alot of celebrity deaths are OD's and having never used heroin I wonder whether people intentionally take too much or if you can never account for how a dose will react with the body, even if its had many prior experiences.
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One common scenario for straight heroin overdoses is someone relapsing use and using way too much then they're tolerant of. Typically people will use a similar dose thinking they'll be fine because they've used that amount before.
 
INDIGO_CYCLOPS said:
That is a huge amount.



One common scenario for straight heroin overdoses is someone relapsing use and using way too much then they're tolerant of. Typically people will use a similar dose thinking they'll be fine because they've used that amount before.
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This makes sense, I always assumed overdose was suicide but I guess tolerance counts for alot, also I imagine heroin is not an exact science, there is always the risk.
 
Arrogant Bastard said:
Opiates take another one, Heroin is no more dangerous than Percocet.
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Maybe I'm missing something but not sure why anyone would want to get hooked on percocet though I know it's a thing. I was prescribed them when I got my wisdom teeth pulled and when I had a pinched nerve in my back but aside from removing physical pain it didn't do anything for me. Never had a desire to take them after I ran out.
 
Mr Cola said:
This makes sense, I always assumed overdose was suicide but I guess tolerance counts for alot, also I imagine heroin is not an exact science, there is always the risk.
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Correct. Heroin is beyond a science because there's dealers that will cut it to hell and back, and others that will leave most of the 1/8 g (one bag) in tact. Heroin from South America, typical for the NYC area, as well as Afghani is even more potent, something like 90% potent. You just never know what you're getting and how strong it will be.

There are most definitely cases of overdose suicides, but a lot of overdoses are accidental because of this very reason.
 
Mr Cola said:
With heroin overdoses is it often intentional? Or can an overdose come from a previously "safe" amount, I used safe in the sense that alot of celebrity deaths are OD's and having never used heroin I wonder whether people intentionally take too much or if you can never account for how a dose will react with the body, even if its had many prior experiences.
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As with all opiates, what you previously thought was a safe dose may not be a safe dose later on. This becomes extremely problematic if you relapse. Opiates and tolerance work quite differently than other substances. In many cases you can take time off from opiates and then start using again. Regardless of time you do not have a full-on tolerance reset, I'm failing at explaining this but that is the best way I can phrase it. You can go months without using opiates, use it one time and your tolerance is 'back' right to where it was when you originally quit. The problem with this is the 'high' effect is the only thing that is tolerance resistant, its effect on your heart/etc are not reset.

What likely happened is he used a few days ago, and felt that the effect of the drug were not propelling him to the level of 'high' he was trying to obtain or used to. He upped his dosage and probably had a heart attack.
 
Wow, sad to hear. He was a great actor. Lebowski, Boogie Nights, Magnolia, Synecdoche, Happiness.

I should probably get around to watching The Master now.
 
Arrogant Bastard said:
I'm not. You act as though prescription opiates are somehow not as dangerous as heroin, newsflash they are.

Guess people do not overdose all the time from prescription opioids.
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If you mean Heroin is no more dangerous than Percocet per the user, fine, but Percocet is not as strong as Heroin inherently.

But that's not the issue we should be focusing on at all.
 
INDIGO_CYCLOPS said:
If you mean Heroin is no more dangerous than Percocet per the user, fine, but Percocet is not as strong as Heroin inherently.

But that's not the issue we should be focusing on at all.
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Depending on the level of abuse and the dose of the Percocet, you can fuck up your liver if you hit it too hard from the acetaminophen. One of the reason some people graduate from opiates to heroin. I know that was what Artie Lange did.
 
INDIGO_CYCLOPS said:
If you mean Heroin is no more dangerous than Percocet per the user, fine, but Percocet is not as strong as Heroin inherently.

But that's not the issue we should be focusing on at all.
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A substitute or intake method not being as strong can absolutely be a problem. It can lead to people overdosing because they're trying to reach similar highs.
 
Devolution said:
A substitute or intake method not being as strong can absolutely be a problem. It can lead to people overdosing because they're trying to reach similar highs.
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Ding ding ding.

Opiates are opiates. People react because it is heroin, but it really is no different than ODing on prescription opiates.
 
Devolution said:
A substitute or intake method not being as strong can absolutely be a problem. It can lead to people overdosing because they're trying to reach similar highs.
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Also true, I just felt it should have been clarified and not been generalized as "heroin is no stronger than Percocet".
 
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