Mr.Squirrel
Tom
To be honest, it wasn't until I saw the trailer from Sony's press site that I saw how much better it looked than a PS3 game. Watching it on YouTube (or even worse the February stream) doesn't mmake the game look that impressive.
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Killzone Shadow Fall (PS4) announced, launch title [1080p/30fps]
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To be honest, it wasn't until I saw the trailer from Sony's press site that I saw how much better it looked than a PS3 game. Watching it on YouTube (or even worse the February stream) doesn't mmake the game look that impressive.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
Anticitizen One
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Yea the stream was really shit. It made everything look bad.
Wishmaster92
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Wait that's actually a rumor?
I see you breh
Brothers.
TrojanBlade
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WOW...O.O ... those details ... wow ... E3 would be awesome!!!!!! Some folks were saying this looks just like KZ3 ...seriously lol
Wow this is stunningWOW...O.O ... those details ... wow ... E3 would be awesome!!!!!! Some folks were saying this looks just like KZ3 ...seriously lol
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
This is a launch game. The fuck is KZ5 gonna look like 3 year from now? ...
WOW...O.O ... those details ... wow ... E3 would be awesome!!!!!! Some folks were saying this looks just like KZ3 ...seriously lol
Dude's wearing belts on his belts.
Incredible detail though. Massive improvement over the previous model.
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
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I just wanna know how this will look on my tv in all its 1080p glory.
Great details and visuals, but I find the character design in the newly released screen to be awful. So many buckles and belts. Just doesn't have the stark evil deadliness of past designs, and seems a bit over the top. Hopefully all these belts actually do something and aren't just for show. The design from the reveal is much better.
I believe those belts are for camouflage. Hence they are only on those who have that ability
Honestly I'm not that impressed with the game. It looks like its running on 10 PS3's duct-taped together.
WOW...O.O ... those details ... wow ... E3 would be awesome!!!!!! Some folks were saying this looks just like KZ3 ...seriously lol
that looks fantastic!
WOW...O.O ... those details ... wow ... E3 would be awesome!!!!!! Some folks were saying this looks just like KZ3 ...seriously lol
Is this really ingame?
The little orbs you see on the belts are what allow them to camouflage so it isn't just belts for the sake of belts.
scoobs
Member
Give KZ a break I want to see this RPG the other part of GG been working on since Killzone 3
Holy crap, there is some potential hype there.
just imagine it m8
JCreasy
Member
Oh a 3rd team! That's how they're pulling this off.
Can't wait to see the RPG. A fresh art direction will look great with Guerilla tech!
I'm imagining the leap Naughty Dog took when they left Jack and Daxter and took on Uncharted. We really got to see how talented they really were.
leatherhat
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WOW...O.O ... those details ... wow ... E3 would be awesome!!!!!! Some folks were saying this looks just like KZ3 ...seriously lol
Did Nomura design this?
Its guerilla games on a brand new console, and you're surprised it looks amazing
Cannot believe it but hope to see prove at E3!
Function over form
Evolution_1ne
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Looks like the commando, based on the helmet.
I got strapz on my strapz, so I can strap while I strap.......strapz
but seriously this design while is detailed looks utterly ridiculous
As I've mentioned before, I think the design is pretty neat. Those bumps are probably cloaking nodes, and I figured that on top of the cape which the snipers use (which also has strategically placed "bumps"), the Helghast also made cloaking straps, so you could easily camouflage anything by wrapping them with it. Snipers only needed to have the straps on their limbs, as opposed to wrapping himself entirely with the cape, which would limit mobility. Neat and practical design tbh... haha this is all just a theory anyway, but I like dissecting and analyzing futuristic/fictional military design cos I love drawing them!
Seriously though, the amount of details are astounding!! 6 months is such a painfully long time to wait hargh
mysteriousmage09
Member
Holy shit you might be on to something! Those snipers in the jungle, they need to plant (hurhur) themselves in vegetation for long periods of time where pesky Helghan bugs are quite the nuisance.. and they've found a way to stalk undisturbed!
mytsoutsou
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WOW...O.O ... those details ... wow ... E3 would be awesome!!!!!! Some folks were saying this looks just like KZ3 ...seriously lol
Give us graphics like this in multiplayer with a futuristic spawn grenade which looks like a portable freaking wormhole,also add a clan system based on KZ2 and I promise you GG I'll stop watching porn for the rest of my life.
qa_engineer
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Lies. No one can resist the pr0ns
SniperHunter
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it was good, but Bad Company 2 or Team Fortress 2 were way better.
les papillons sexuels
Banned
yes, because who needs to see their enemies when they're blinded by the ridiculous glare, lesnflare and bloom effects on top of the DOF, blur and other post processing crap that these developers need to seriously abandon. I dont get why people praise this type of stuff, it's only leading to worse playing games.
The belts are the units that power the camo. I actually like the Helghast designs in this a lot. The hoodie and Adidas rip off packs make it clear that they're not an organized group, just a young, angry faction that have put on the masks as a symbol to revolt against the VSA.
SniperHunter
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It's just a bad screenshot. The actual trailer didn't go overboard with the post processing effects.
Yeah, I was actually surprised how subtle everything was in the reveal since GG has a ton of post processing going on. I would like a bit more motion blur though.
For me, it was BFBC 1 >KZ2 > BC2
SniperHunter
Banned
yea they should just replace the cheap motion blur with object based blur! OH YEA!
Bad Company 2 blew my mind away. I loved the physics in that game. Bodies flying all over the place, buildings falling down, hilarious ragdoll physics, choppers breaking up like crazy! Physics made that game fun to play.
Dictator93
Member
I agree, BC2 was still an incredible game, but I prefer BC1 cause of the more balanced MP, large and much better maps and it the larger scale combat.
les papillons sexuels
Banned
yeah it did. All these new games are going overboard, in the gameplay demo you could barely see any of the enemies he was shooting at(specially with all the smoke and embers tossed in there), and it's incredibly unclear as to where they are, what type of enemy they are, and what your best way to dispatch them is.
These processing effects are the bane of game design right now, it was problematic in halo 4, it's problematic in crysis, it's problematic in killzone 2/3, bf3, it'll be problematic here.
Facism
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the devices on the belts aid the camo he has. it fits well with the refugee status of the helghan. they no longer have the economy or facility to create their techs like they used to, so things like the saboteurs camo are DIY and hastily rigged like shown.
SniperHunter
Banned
I only managed to put 5 hours into Bad Company I, by the time I bought it was basically dead...
strangely, BF1943 is still active on PS3
it did have object based blur, but it was not as heavy as in kz2. Sadly
ah ok! it needs to be heavy. I loved cranking motion blur all the way up in Crysis or any other game except for BF3 (atrocious motion blur)
It was supposed to be a chaotic situation. It was a bombing and a massacre that the player is in the middle of. The smoke, ash, and ember added a lot to the atmosphere. It's also pretty easy to tell who the enemies are in KZ since they have glowing red eyes.
Punkster_NY
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I laughed so hard at this.
Dictator93
Member
WHAT?!
Halo 4 has almost 0 post processing other than some color grading and a tiny amount of bloom. It has no motionblur other than a small radial blur when a grenade goes off near your character.
In bf3 and crysis you can turn off the motionblur.
les papillons sexuels
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while I agree that graphical effects add to the atmosphere, there's a point at which the artist and designers need to understand that less but better might be the more appropriate approach. You can create chaos through a vareiety of different ways, you shouldn't be hampering the gameplay for graphics.
In the screen I posted you can you easily and readily tell the difference between the person shooting at you, your priority targets, and how best to neutralize them? If not, then what did you think the developer added to ensure that players dont become overly fustrated? These cinematic effects are a key component in the rise of poor game design like handholding and qte's because they create visual garbage that interferes with the gameplay. The more fustrating the game (key is fustration and not difficulty), the less immersive and atmospheric the game. The same goes for things like cheap or shody AI.
the reality is that these effects, like dof, bloom, flares, glares, etc, they take you out of the immersive gaming enviroment by creating a needless game design issues. While it looks incredible, you're not going to be stopping in the middle of a firefight to notice how nice everything looks, you're going to do that after, and there's really a great opportunity for the designers to reward the player with a beautiful vista.
Halo 4 has many good examples of how adding cinematic visual effects that do nothing but hamper the end experience. They make the jackals sniping you invisible from the suns lensflare, they make the head less visible and harder to hit, and they take away from the beautiful level and enemy designs of the others who worked hard on the game. Or how about the dirty goggles in BF3, who keeps their gear in such bad condition, how does the inability to see what you're doing in a game make it more immersive or better?
These effects are the new bloom of the console era, and they're creating more and more gaming issues then ever.
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