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[Buggy Loop]

Crimson Skies is incredible.

Yes!

I can't believe we never got more of that

 

[Instant_Classic]

Yes!

I can't believe we never got more of that

I would take a HD remaster with online enabled if they don't want to commit to a full remake.

 

[Instant_Classic]

Yes i wouldnt expect them to have it. But they need to have some way those with disc collections can play there own games they already paid for.

Not everyone with discs necessarily paid for them.

 

[ChoosableOne]

How did you get it to 60fps?

Mine only runs at 30 with no options to change it I can see.

Afmf, it's an amd trick. Fake but smooth 60fps with little input lag. You can use lossless scaling app if you don't have an amd card.

 

[Polelock]

This is fucking awesome!

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Thief tf you are on?

If you want to go balls deep into OG Xbox (like I did) you can just get one, get an OSSC (unless you have a CRT) and an internet cable and you are done, online + good games. You want on the go? Xemu is already on Android and IOs, and since you dont want to be a 'thief' you just get your games and then the images.

This just cattle behavior of 'Please! Let me just get digital licenses of 20+ year games Microsoft!" or even worse "Please Asha! Let me rent older games!!"

Not that long ago everyone where shitting on Sony for trying to force people into digital licensing but now this is a 'good' move? This is a worse version of what we have right now.

I was simply responding to your "WhY wOuLd AnYOne WaNt tHiS?!?!?!?!?!?!".

From what I read of the article if you have already purchased the digital versions of those games (which were later available on the Xbox Store/marketplace) you can now play them on PC.

If people don't have an OG xbox and don't want to go through the process of downloading 878gb worth of OG xbox game images (IE the theft I was referring to), this seems to be a great way to experience those old games as they make them available.

I am sure you have a complete collection of OG xbox games as you have gone "balls deep" into it.

 

[KenaiPhoenix]

I was simply responding to your "WhY wOuLd AnYOne WaNt tHiS?!?!?!?!?!?!".

It is still a ridiculous answer, you are defending Microsoft 'good action' of letting people pay again for 20+ games, only to get a worse version of what they can have thanks to many community tools like Insignia, a free revival of OG xbox live.

From what I read of the article if you have already purchased the digital versions of those games (which were later available on the Xbox Store/marketplace) you can now play them on PC.

Thats the minimal thing they can do. What? The licenses you rented on Xbox is somehow incompatible with the license of the emulator?

(IE the theft I was referring to),

What theft man? Those games have been abandoned for 20+ years, and we already know that at best you rent a digital license. If 5-10 years for now Disney/Lucas Art revoke all license of Star Wars to EA, we know these companies have no shame in just taking games like Star Wars Battlefront 2 from your 'library'.

If you tell me I can just go to a place in the Microsoft store, and just order a new copy of Star Wars Battlefront, of Halo 2 or Dead or Alive: Xtreme and then deliver it to me (aka, not a license rent), I will concede you that it is theft. But thats not real.

this seems to be a great way to experience those old games as they make them available.

And this is what my original post was about: It is not great, unless somehow you are slave that if you dont see it on the store for digital borrowing, then it doesnt exist.

TODAY, there are better solutions, all community driven and related to the OG Xbox, I will just name a few:

- Free Online: OG Xbox live in all its glory with friends, message, etc
- Achievements: Some mad lads somehow managed to introduce achievements in the OG xbox.
- Mobile ports and Cross play: Play on your Xbox, play on your PC, Steamdeck, tablet or phone and with everyone else using insignia and unlocking achievements.
- Mods and ports: games like UT99, Hexen 2, Dark Forces are being ported with even more things to come now that people developed some C tools for new homebrew games. And dont worry, these ports usually ask you to put the game files from PC into the the port, so this is not first degree robbery.

 

[Wastelander92]

360 support datamined: https://www.trueachievements.com/news/xbox-360-games-pc-backward-compatible-dataminers

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

What theft man? Those games have been abandoned for 20+ years, and we already know that at best you rent a digital license.

Ahhh okay, now your posts make perfect sense.

 

[Wastelander92]

Ahhh okay, now your posts make perfect sense.

???

 

[AndrewRyan]

• If you already own a digital license for these games on console, that license now carries over to your PC or handheld.

The way it should be.

 

[Esppiral]

Well I'll leave this hex edit I did years ago for Crimson Skies, it makes the game display in Widescreen and unlocks the framerate to 60 fps, if anyone or ever is possible to patch these games it will come in handy.

Name = Crimson Skies
TitleID = MS-033

*16:9 AR

FIND
00 00 80 3F 8B CE E8 31 06 03 00 F3 0F 10 06 F3 0F 10 4E 0C F3 0F 11 44 24 40 F3 0F 10 46 04 F3 0F 11 44 24 44 F3 0F 10 46 08 F3 0F 11 4C 24 50
REPLACE
00 00 40 3F 8B CE E8 31 06 03 00 F3 0F 10 06 F3 0F 10 4E 0C F3 0F 11 44 24 40 F3 0F 10 46 04 F3 0F 11 44 24 44 F3 0F 10 46 08 F3 0F 11 4C 24 50

*FRAMERATE UNLOCK*

FIND
01 00 00 00 5B 83 C4 08 C3 D8 0D 18 EE 28 00 89 46 10 89 4E 14 E8 56 1E 0C 00 5F 89 46 18 5E 33 C0 5B 83 C4 08 C3 CC CC 83 EC 08 56 8D 44 24 04
REPLACE
00 00 00 00 5B 83 C4 08 C3 D8 0D 18 EE 28 00 89 46 10 89 4E 14 E8 56 1E 0C 00 5F 89 46 18 5E 33 C0 5B 83 C4 08 C3 CC CC 83 EC 08 56 8D 44 24 04

`
*FRAMERATE FIX*

FIND
00 00 7A 44 00 00 20 41 50 B7 01 00 50 93 01 00 20 93 01 00 50 4F 01 00 B0 AD 01 00 10 F8 12 00 60 4F 01 00 70 4F 01 00 60 04 12 00 60 04 12 00
REPLACE
00 00 FA 43 00 00 20 41 50 B7 01 00 50 93 01 00 20 93 01 00 50 4F 01 00 B0 AD 01 00 10 F8 12 00 60 4F 01 00 70 4F 01 00 60 04 12 00 60 04 12 00

Too bad the game runs like dogshit in Xemu.

 

[JoeDanny]

• If you already own a digital license for these games on console, that license now carries over to your PC or handheld.

The way it should be.

Would be nice to digitize my OG Xbox library to PC with the rumored disc-to-digital stuff.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Would be nice to digitize my OG Xbox library to PC with the rumored disc-to-digital stuff.

Rumor is the disc to digital program is only for Xbox One and Series games.

 

[mindfreak191]

I'm betting you that they're gonna announce Gears 2&3 coming to PC back compatibility during Games Con in August, perfect way to drum up excitement for E-day.

 

[adamsapple]

Would be nice to digitize my OG Xbox library to PC with the rumored disc-to-digital stuff.

Rumor is the disc to digital program is only for Xbox One and Series games.

Correct, it's only going to be from One onwards because of the way they encrypt those discs.

 

[kevboard]

Would be nice to digitize my OG Xbox library to PC with the rumored disc-to-digital stuff.

Rumor is the disc to digital program is only for Xbox One and Series games.

Correct, it's only going to be from One onwards because of the way they encrypt those discs.

indeed. Xbox One and Series X discs all have fully individual serial numbers. so every disc has its own unique identifier and can be tracked.

360 and og Xbox games don't have that, but Xbox One and Series X games do because it's a remnant of Microsoft's plan to make the Xbox One always online with discs just unlocking your license for the game.

that system needed unique identifiers for every single disc, as you could only sell them once, and after that they would be permanently locked to an account, and would need to be removed from the old account.
that's why the original Xbox One concept would have needed a 24h online check-in to certify which games you still own or don't anymore.


the leaked disc to digital system basically revives this old concept, and simply removes the limited disc sales part, but keeps the digital profile lock to your account.
it will still track if you still own the game, by detecting if the disc has been used/registered on a different console by a different user.
that's why I am almost 100% certain that this system will also require a 24h online check for registered discs, because they need to make sure you're not registering dozens of games, put your console offline, and then just sell them all.

 

[Tunned]

Well shit, last time I tried to replay PGR2 on my 360, I did not get too far due to a game breaking emulation glitch. If PGR2 does eventually make it, and I pray it does, I hope all the emulation glitches will be ironed out.

 

[Killer8]

This creates a lot more questions. Xbox emulation on the 360 was notoriously shit. Did they fix up all the issues within that emulator? Because the games were perfect on Series X as far as I could tell.

 

[Odinnii]

Downloaded Crimson Skies on pc and found a save file that is probably XX years old. This is sick.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

This creates a lot more questions. Xbox emulation on the 360 was notoriously shit. Did they fix up all the issues within that emulator? Because the games were perfect on Series X as far as I could tell.

The one/sx emulation supports barely any original xbox games, like 50 total, the 360 emulator supports over 400

 

[Killer8]

The one/sx emulation supports barely any original xbox games, like 50 total, the 360 emulator supports over 400

Quality of the Xbox emulator was hit or miss on Xbox 360. Numerous annoying artifacts, missing effects, bad performance, audio issues, choppy FMVs etc.

I'll take 50 games which work perfectly over that.

 

[GloveSlap]

Could be promising. The one game that temps me to buy OG Xbox hardware is the Buffy the Vampire Slayer game. No chance that gets released through this though.

 

[adamsapple]

The one/sx emulation supports barely any original xbox games, like 50 total, the 360 emulator supports over 400

Yeaah.... that's one of my major gripes.

I remember having a modded version of the emulator on my JTAG X360 which expanded the library even more.

Games like the OG Xbox ports of Fatal Frame 1/2, GTA 3/Vice City etc worked great on the X360, but for some reason none of them are compatible with the Xbox One/Series version of the emulator.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

I'll take 50 games which work perfectly over that.

Yes there are games with issues, but far more than 50 work without any issues on the 360; there's 400+ of them, even if 50% of them had all kinds of issues, that's still 200+ that don't.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Yes i wouldnt expect them to have it. But they need to have some way those with disc collections can play there own games they already paid for.

Well, they won't.

 

[Killer8]

Yes there are games with issues, but far more than 50 work without any issues on the 360; there's 400+ of them, even if 50% of them had all kinds of issues, that's still 200+ that don't.

Keep posting the gif over and over, most of the list has documented issues:

https://consolemods.org/wiki/Xbox_360:Original_Xbox_Games_Compatibility_List

But hey at least it can play a dozen iterations of Sportsball 20XX perfectly!

 

[AGRacing]

Drive by post in appreciation of them including the Xbox boot logo in the emulated titles.

Someone in that building understands me. That's 1 more than the Sony building in 2026.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Keep posting the gif over and over,

Is this list supposed to counter anything I said? If you sort by "Known Issues", there's far more than 50 games that have "none".

 

[swaffles23]

360 support datamined: https://www.trueachievements.com/news/xbox-360-games-pc-backward-compatible-dataminers

Give me Lost Odyssey

 

[Axelon]

Crimson Skies is incredible.

I played it for very little amount on the Xbox a few years ago. I played a bit more on my PC and dang, it's fun. Going to absolutely play it more.

 

[kevboard]

This creates a lot more questions. Xbox emulation on the 360 was notoriously shit. Did they fix up all the issues within that emulator? Because the games were perfect on Series X as far as I could tell.

the issues on Xbox 360 was mostly a lack of power.
but yes the newest version (2021c) of the XeFu emulator does indeed improve many games. people backported the newer Xbox One/series X versions of the emulator to modded Xbox 360 systems, and that made some games that were previously basically unplayable now playable.

so they definitely improved the accuracy and stability

 

[Killer8]

Is this list supposed to counter anything I said? If you sort by "Known Issues", there's far more than 50 games that have "none".

I don't know why you are caring so much about this.

I asked an open question about whether Microsoft have resolved the documented issues in the original emulator. Apparently only kevboard was willing to provide an answer that, yes, apparently they have continued to make improvements to that existing emulator rather than make a new one.

So my question, and its answer, have improved the knowledge of this thread - not being a pedantic retard who feels the need to defend the honor of how well some old FIFA games ran on an Xbox 360.

 

[bender]

Yes!

I can't believe we never got more of that

You can always hunt down the original.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

I asked an open question

You said you'd rather have the one/sx emulator because it has 50 games that worked without issues, my response was there's more than 50 that work without issues on the 360 emulator.
Then you post a list that confirms what I said as some kind of gotcha.

 

[Killer8]

You said you'd rather have the one/sx emulator because it has 50 games that worked without issues, my response was there's more than 50 that work without issues on the 360 emulator.
Then you post a list that confirms what I said as some kind of gotcha.