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Steam Machine |OT| There Are Dozens of Us. Dozens!
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DarkShadowXI
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Thanks man! It's so dirty. I hate it lol
I've only purchased one item at a markup. It was a 3090 at the heart of the pandemic. I spent like $300 markup on it and it was worth it during those times.
$500+ on Steam Machine feels like "why did I do that?" territory.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Hideous Snake
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It's baffling how Valve doesn't care about ME. We're a massive market but we can't buy any Steam product directly from Steam
Themacabre
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Benchmarks are for your primary PC, don't get wrapped up in that, it's not the point of the SM. If I were you there's no way I would pass on that....but it would move me up in the line..
DarkShadowXI
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DarkLordOtaku
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Valve did pioneer box based gambling after all.
DarkShadowXI
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Sending a DM over
riko
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Yea genuinely didnt expect the reservation queue to take "the rest of the year" I sort of expected to get my offer this week. Oh well, patience it is...
DownLikeBCPowder
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Yeah I can't imagine they made a bajillion units, I kind of figured that those selected would be allowed to go ahead and buy.
Themacabre
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Dear Valve,
I would like to purchase one Product™ please
I would like to purchase one Product™ please
OverHeat
« generous god »
Same the more time it take to receive the email to pay the less I want to buy it…
DownLikeBCPowder
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What's the time stamp on your email?
Traxtech
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I got it at 3am Tuesday morning(Aus time, so 26 hours ago) to confirm my purchase.
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DarkShadowXI
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"Reservation queue means that we need to notify customers to purchase the product."
Magic Carpet
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That clicking sound is a rod an reel. Well he take the bait?
riko
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This confirms that they seem to go out at 1PM Eastern time every day. I get not trying to overwhelm servers and pace shipping but this is pretty odd for a reservation queue and not a waitlist.
DarkShadowXI
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Hopefully things speed up a bit once the Steam Summer Sale is over. I think
jshackles
was onto something with that.The Steam Machine is the #1 stop seller, so this thing is definitely moving (even though it doesn't feel like it).
Guardian Monkey
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By dollars sure it's hardware.Hopefully things speed up a bit once the Steam Summer Sale is over. I think
The Steam Machine is the #1 stop seller, so this thing is definitely moving (even though it doesn't feel like it).
DarkShadowXI
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Oh my bad, I thought this was based on units sold. Nevermind
But perhaps they're still staggering it.
reinking
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Didn't take long for scalpers to start doing scalper things
But it is only $144.02 per month. I can swing that.
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Seen several people on Reddit today who got the email yesterday, paid right away, and their order status now shows "packaging for shipment". So I think the answer is that they'll ship within a few days of purchase.
BlueManifest
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I put it together in 2 hrs, it would have only taken about 1 hr but I made some small mistakes, first time building
Started up with no issues and installed steam os
Case I used was ncore 100 max, already had power supply and liquid cooling pre installed, it's a few inches taller and few inches wider than ps5
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Themacabre
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I got the email to buy the thing an hour ago, so they are still sending out batches it seems.
It said it ships in 3-5 days when I paid for it, but I will see after I get the tracking.
DarkShadowXI
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Congrats man! Looking forward to your impressions!
It's not worth paying the mark up. Just get the mini PC I listed for $437. It'll directly run official Steam OS, and is smaller than the Steam Machine.
Once your slot opens, you can order your SM, and then sell or use the mini PC for a different project. So you end up paying less while having more. Heck you might decide it meets your needs and saves you a grand.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/steam-machine-ot-there-are-dozens-of-us-dozens.1698429/post-271736970
riko
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Not a comparable device. For all the Reddit / general internet "comparative" builds, they're either iGPU junk like this or much louder / larger. 12L vs 3.8L etc. Yea if I wanted a loud PC in my living room I'd just move my 4090 down. All reviews of the Steam Machine make it seem like it'll be an enjoyable tiny quiet little device. Easy impulse buy toy for me.
Also everyone here buying one understands its not excellent value on a purely specs on paper basis. Everyone's impulse / fun buy threshold is different.
hououinkyouma00
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Definitely don't do this brother and not even because fuck scalpers but mostly because reservation queue doesn't mean much and you could still be waiting months.
Yes, that's why I said it was 1/3rd the GPU performance of the SM. But it can play 2D and indie games without issue. Which OP is looking for.
If the different is overpaying $500 to get a SM now. Or playing with that machine, and then getting a SM a little later? I'd go for that mini PC. I have two mini PCs with that CPU. One is my daily driver, the other is a home built Steam Machine I put together before Valve announced theirs.
That machine is compromised with a single stick of slower 4800MT RAM. But you would spend about $200 more to get faster memory. As a stop gap it works.
hououinkyouma00
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I think he's better off just keeping the Legion Go S that he already uses then buying anything stop gap. Then he won't have a machine he has no use for sitting around or trying to sell it.
I think he's just impatient which I get. He was super excited for the SM (as am I) and the whole situation with availability is obnoxious to say the least. IMO the whole release is a shitshow and I can't think of many ways they could have made it worse.
DarkShadowXI
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Yeah I would definitely be better off with the Legion Go S as a stop gap. It meets most of my needs, for now.
And I'm definitely impatient for the SM lol. It's going to get harder and harder when more and more have it in their hands.
Being put on the waitlist basically feels like I'm not getting one without resorting to other means (buying from someone here or the dreaded eBay route). If they did a normal ordering setup, I feel like I would've had much better chances at getting one.
The fact that it's still being scalped is like…c'mon man. At least give priority to your long time customers that have hundreds of games in their library. They're the ones that would legit use this thing. This lottery was poorly executed.
I really appreciate you guys looking out for me
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Topher
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So installed Steam OS on the machine above and took some notes as I ran some benchmarks:
Forget about 4k unless you are fine with 30fps. This is a 1440p/60 PC. Doesn't matter what level of FSR I use, the frame rate is 30 at 4k.
Cyberpunk 2077 1440p FSR 3 Performance
FSR 4 kills performance in Cyberpunk. Stays around 30fps. FSR 3.0 is good, image quality is just ok. Low settings get 60 fps. Medium 40-50. High 30-40.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider 1440p XeSS Performance
Only TeSS performance. About the same results. High settings to low has frame rate running high 30s to 60s
Red Dead Redemption 2 1440p FSR 2 Performance
around 50-ish fps on ultra settings. Actually looked and ran pretty good.
Also ran around a bit in Trail of the Sky First chapter demo. Couldn't figure out how to turn on the frame rate counters, but at medium settings it ran very smooth. High..ok. Ultra...jittery.
Side note: Have wireless keyboard and mouse near by. The OS is great with controller. Not all the games are
I'll run some more benchmarks tomorrow
Edit: figured out how to get frame rate to show. Have to use the keyboard to get the overlay to show.
Trails of the Sky gets frames in the 50s at low, 40s at medium, 30fps at high.
Also ran Crimson Desert. 1440p. FSR 4.1. Ultra Performance. Low settings. With Frame gen off, I'm getting 30-ish fps but that's with nothing going on. With Frame gen on, I can get 60 and honestly it if very playable. Some of the effects like smoke look bad, but acceptable I'd say
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do not buy it so i can get mine faster lol
I'm still pondering this but so far it just seems like a bad purchase. For anyone who already has a decent PC or a PS5 etc. anyway. And for anyone who has played the best games of the past few years...
Because it won't be able to run new games properly, right? It seems to barely be able to run Cyberpunk, which is a 2020 game.
It seems like the main selling point is the small form factor? But it isn't even that small. It's not small like an Apple TV or anything. It looks so bulky.
It actually looks too big to fit into most TV cabinet shelves, so it would have to sit on top instead? But if sits on top them it is probably going to obscure part of the TV screen.
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DownLikeBCPowder
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It's a 6 inch cube, pretty small I'd say.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
It's a six-inch cube, so yeah pretty small. Should be able to easily fit into most TV cabinet shelves.
my reason for getting this thing is I have a lot of retro games on Steam and I just want to play them on the television
and the steam deck doc was just a pain in the ass to work with for me
You can't just use Steam Link? Normally I wouldn't, but for retro games it should be fine?
steam link also seems like a pain in the ass to set up
and the computer I'm using right now doesn't have that much space to begin with
DownLikeBCPowder
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I don't really have a good reason for buying it honestly.
I have the Ps5, the Switch 2, and a capable PC of approximate PS5 quality. I don't buy a lot of games on PC because they are digital and I'm a mostly physical purchaser. However with more and more game key disks and game key cards, I am going to start buying these titles on PC when they hit the appropriate price or on sale. If I can't own it physically I'd at least rather have it on the best ecosystem. While I could display my computer on the television or get some kind of mini tower or build another PC for the living room, I like that this thing is a small and sleek form factor, quiet, and maybe approximately the power of a Ps5. That's where everything else in my setup is at so I'm going to be fine with that. Despite what I just said I do have quite the library on Steam because I've been using it for 20 years and buying a lot of things at 90% off over time. Games that I think of as PC games I will still play on my desktop with a proper setup such as Civilization or Age of Empires, things like that. But games that I consider to be more console oriented in spirit, like 007 or Crimson Desert, I will start to shift over to Steam. These kind of games I can play on my Steam Machine out in the main area where I would normally play the Playstation. I will start buying a lot less on console from Sony and as well Nintendo though I think I will keep buying Nintendo products for a while because their first party at least are still on cartridge. But it is definitely going to be ramping down.
Suffice to say I don't really have a good reason but that's my rationale. I just like it and that's enough for me. I also think Hardware prices are going to continue to go up so in retrospect this won't be viewed as that bad of a price in retrospect as sad as that is.
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I'm pretty sure you can use your Steam Deck as a Steam Link host, and then just install a Steam Link client app on your TV/Apple TV/etc.
e.g.
Seems easy?
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I generally agree with you but, it doesn't sound like the Steam Machine will actually be able to run new games well?
For example it doesn't run seem to run 007 well. In this video (at 12min-ish mark) they have to turn all the graphics settings down to low etc. in order to get 007 to run well on a Steam Machine
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