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[VeganElduderino]

with these poor man specs, yeah adios!

 

[TikiLagoonSam]

The worst part of this is what this means for next gen.

The PS6 and Helix are screwed. Next gen is guarenteed to be over $1000 when it launches.

This gen will be the last system people own for years to come. So settle in boys because cross gen games are going to be here for at least the next 5 years.

Also, xboxs console exclusive strategy test for gears and clockwork revolution will be DOA. Nintendo about to benefit the most from this landscape. Switch 2 caught up and next gen is not moving forward.

 

[kevboard]

Is this better than a PS5 Pro? It seems a lot more expensive than a PS5 Pro...

it's worse than the base PS5 in real world performance in most games

 

[winjer]

 

[Trunx81]

 

[Vinlaen]

Serious question — how does an AMD 6700 XT (12GB) compare to this? (RDNA 2 vs RDNA 3?)

 

[LordOcidax]

Just cancel it, it's DOA.

Like i said on the SteamDeck price hike thread… This is basically the same thing as canceling, they are going to avoid the bad press and the repercussions of cancellation.

 

[TGO]

Sony....watch this space..

 

[zaga]

it's worse than the base PS5 in real world performance in most games

Yikes...

 

[FudgeIt]

I was excited for something like this but not anymore, it's a nice form factor but that price point and the hardware seems like a no from me dawg.

 

[Bojji]

$1000 for 3060 performance

But with less VRAM...

 

[Futaleufu]

It is expensive but still cheaper than building your own PC.

 

[Spyxos]

Lmao if this outdated hardware is over 1 grand i dont wanna know ps6 release price.

 

[Shambala]

 

[acekard]

you can get rtx 5060 laptop for about the same price, which will be better in every way. what's even the point of this thing

 

[Skifi28]

And not even packed with Half Life 3.

I forgot about that. No HL announcement, can we finally confirm it's not happening? I was convinced but there were some dreamers here and there still hoping. It would have been a way to soften the blow from that price tag so we can probably bury the rumors for good now.

 

[SmokSmog]

 

[Katajx]

Not wanting to pile on, but big oof.

 

[Buggy Loop]

In CAD it's completely ridiculous.

 

[Ribi]

PS5 Pro is more powerful and comes with 2TB and a controller for $899.

Just an insane value compared to this. Damn.

And no games

 

[PeteBull]

So weird to go with 1049 or 1129 rather than round numbers. 1000 and 1100… greed got the better of them here. These numbers LOOK way worse just because they're so specific.

Either way though… this thing is pointless and WAY niche. It's luxury, except the product itself isn't luxury in its actual tech.

Yup they wanna sell us entry lvl specs product for premium price, im being generous here when i say it wont even reach steamdeck ltd sales aka 5-6m units total

 

[MLSabre]

Canadian Dollars, fyi.

Goddamn...

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Helix is probably $899 at launch.

Helix will only be $899 if they change their strategy (which they already hinted they are at least looking into) of having a super powerful device.

 

[MayauMiao]

 

[Oberstein]

 

[The Pleasure]

Only 1050 starting?

 

[DenchDeckard]

LTT had a video implying it was pretty much wholesale prices and that this was clearly coming in hot around 7-800. Assuming that's the 2TB model and prices have gone up 50% easy it's clear you can see the 1200 strictly on DRAM, the SoC and NVMe.

Unless you're dead set on the steam Eco System this is a non starter. I figured for sure because it wasn't a custom thing like the steam deck it wouldn't carry the handheld tax.

Anywho, I build this over the weekend and I'm running cachy so I have my own Steam Machine.

That looks awesome dude! Nice slim build. What's the spec?

 

[bender]

Why did I let Topher talk me into #Team249

 

[DarkShadowXI]

We can swap out the NVMe right? I have a 2TB in my OG Steam Deck I could swap in.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Overpriced for a shitty spec PC. With 500GB storage as the default and always lock in crappy 8GB of VRAM and doesn't even come with a controller either.

 

[ComputerBlue]

Lmao they're crazy.

$1500 CAD without a controller!

Hahaha

 

[Bitstream]

 

[Mr Moose]

Serious question — how does an AMD 6700 XT (12GB) compare to this? (RDNA 2 vs RDNA 3?)

Watching a video now, only checked one game so far but on RE4, Steam Machine is is 93.5fps, 6700XT is 140fps @ 1080p.

 

[Odinnii]

How the fuck are they expecting people to use this with their TV when it's limited to 8GB vram.

 

[Gamezone]

We laugh, but they'll be out of stock soon.

 

[neocycle]

Yea, it's way too expensive. PS5 is a much better deal and PS6 will crush it.

 

[Shifty1897]

What did you guys expect? I have some sad news for you dummies who expected a $600 Steam machine regarding Helix and PS6.

Go get that second job now.

 

[PeteBull]

Valve did not get the price right. I believe it will still sell but those prices are outrageous

It will sell below steamdeck numbers, so pretty terribly, way worse than dreamcast or wiiu which were considered total flops saleswise(i kinda liked games on them but thats beside the point ).

 

[th4tguy]

Price to performance ratio doesn't work. Will pass this time.
I'm a bit sad about this because this was going to be my reentry back into pc gaming.

I've built plenty of rigs over the years but when I last moved, I had no extra funds or time to dedicate to the hobby so my gaming was better served on consoles.
I can't justify spending over 1k$ on hard ware this week.
I'll wait and MAYBE build something much nicer when memory prices finally come down.
What a disappointment and I feel so bad for the team that worked on this as they truly got screwed over by Ai.

 

[geary]

Yea, it's way too expensive. PS5 is a much better deal and PS6 will crush it.

And how a PS5/6 will help me to play my 1000+ games library from steam?

 

[SportsFan581]

It's not as bad as it first sounds when you compare it against current component prices, but damn. They are really hoping the small form factor does the heavy lifting.

I'd probably go with something more like:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zjMqR4

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ASRock DeskMeet X600 Series Barebone mini PC , Supports AMD Socket AM5 Ryzen™ 9000&8000&7000 Series Processors, up to 65W, support 4 x DDR5 DIMMs, up to 7200+ MHz (OC), 256GB Memory. - Newegg.com

Buy ASRock DeskMeet X600 Series Barebone mini PC , Supports AMD Socket AM5 Ryzen™ 9000&8000&7000 Series Processors, up to 65W, support 4 x DDR5 DIMMs, up to 7200+ MHz (OC), 256GB Memory. with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.com

That's around the same $1,050 and isn't that much larger. With the bonus that the 9060XT gives you 16GB of video memory.

 

[Kacho]

 

[64gigabyteram]

The worst part is that it doesn't. Even. Come. With. A. Controller?????

 

[PeteBull]

Welp. I was hoping that they could come in under $1K for the 512GB model, but nope.

I won't say it's outright DOA. There are Valve crazies and Gabe nutjobs out there with money burning a hole in their pocket, and they'll buy the Steam Machine. But once you get past them and get to the more normie PC gamers...this device is gonna be a VERY hard sell to that crowd at those prices. Even when considering that the SM (just like all other Valve hardware) is targeting a very niche market.

Its DOA 100%, likely will sell similar or even below steamdeck numbers, so utterly terrible even compared to failed consoles.

 

[meech]

And some people call Nintendo greedy. This sh*t would be expensive even if would cost 50 percent less.

 

[Seomel]

Listen, price sucks, we know its fucking bloodbath out there. But im 100% sure it will still sell out

 

[neo raider]

LTT had a video implying it was pretty much wholesale prices and that this was clearly coming in hot around 7-800. Assuming that's the 2TB model and prices have gone up 50% easy it's clear you can see the 1200 strictly on DRAM, the SoC and NVMe.

Unless you're dead set on the steam Eco System this is a non starter. I figured for sure because it wasn't a custom thing like the steam deck it wouldn't carry the handheld tax.

Anywho, I build this over the weekend and I'm running cachy so I have my own Steam Machine.

I love it

 

[neocycle]

And how a PS5/6 will help me to play my 1000+ games library from steam?

You won't play them on Steam machine either.

 

[ricardo_sousa11]

GG WP

 

[Fabieter]

The PS6 and Helix are screwed. Next gen is guarenteed to be over $1000 when it launches

No they wont, just because valve is doing it wtf.