DeepEnigma
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She looks like a rape charge if she regrets her decision in the morning.Top left looks cute in a goth-lite way.
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Why do western devs make female characters uglier in their games?
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Or is it just one of Asha's balls in my throat?
DeepEnigma
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Gexxy1
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is it bad that I have no idea who this is but instantly recognized that it wasn't made by a western developerWhy ain't capcom following Sony's narrative?
Claire is fighting ABCDEFG viruses zombies in apocalypse, she needs to have a "strong" appearance!
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
5 minutes into Saros and bumped into this beauty
Thebonehead
Gold Member
No he's not
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
So cool that they got one of the Hodge twins for this role
Robot Carnival
Member
I mean, at least Fable made both male AND female leads uglier than their real life version. so... equality? 
Talks about "bad faith morons" then pretends a screenshot from a late 2024 remake is from "13 years ago".For the retarded "bad tech" excuses, here's the side by side of Hayden Panettiere from Until Dawn that was made 13 fucking years ago:
The true bad faith morons would be posting screenshots like this of Sam and clowning
Nevermore74
Neo Member
You nailed it. Topic closed.
Bojji
Member
There is no agenda guys, you are all paranoid lmao
I mean, at least Fable made both male AND female leads uglier than their real life version. so... equality?
Don't forget this "body type 3" beauty:
MS and Sony can go to hell together lol.
Nevermore74
Neo Member
What a handsome looking Man.
So cool that they got one of the Hodge twins for this role
RafterXL
Gold Member
This is why:
That's from the 2015 credits. Who does that look like? That's right, it looks just like the actress who played the character. Now why is it that in 2015 they could do this, but in 2026 it's impossible for Microsoft or Sony to make a female character that doesn't look like the fucking Swamp Thing?
So they picked the wrong screenshot, doesn't matter, the point is her 2015 face is exactly her face just with worse tech. They didn't intentionally fuck her face up and it wasn't "impossible" to scan an accurate image, even back then.
That's from the 2015 credits. Who does that look like? That's right, it looks just like the actress who played the character. Now why is it that in 2015 they could do this, but in 2026 it's impossible for Microsoft or Sony to make a female character that doesn't look like the fucking Swamp Thing?
Bojji
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Sohurmk833
Member
Damn. They even included the bald cuck aka the California game dev phenotype.There is no agenda guys, you are all paranoid lmao
YOU PC BRO?!
Gold Member
Why?
Because the entire western games industry has been co-opted by radical progressives.
Whats funny is the games that push this nonsense don't sell well. How many great franchises have to fall on the sword of feminism and other subversive ideologies?
Because the entire western games industry has been co-opted by radical progressives.
Whats funny is the games that push this nonsense don't sell well. How many great franchises have to fall on the sword of feminism and other subversive ideologies?
PeteBull
Member
Lara Croft first game remake is made by polish dev studio, flying wild hogs, so ofc she will be hot, since they are eastern european dev studio, not western one.
Gonzito
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Superposition
Member
PERFETTO.
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PeteBull
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That one fell into performance enhancment drugs cauldron when she was just a kid, obelix style
So cool that they got one of the Hodge twins for this role
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
This is why:
So they picked the wrong screenshot, doesn't matter, the point is her 2015 face is exactly her face just with worse tech. They didn't intentionally fuck her face up and it wasn't "impossible" to scan an accurate image, even back then.
That's from the 2015 credits. Who does that look like? That's right, it looks just like the actress who played the character. Now why is it that in 2015 they could do this, but in 2026 it's impossible for Microsoft or Sony to make a female character that doesn't look like the fucking Swamp Thing?
off topic :
I was watching the Gears of War special yesterday and every time that Rayner person appeared on screen, something felt extremely off like my brain couldn't quite process what it was for a few seconds each time.
Then I found out the person had transitioned and suddenly it made sense.
Moral of the story: when your brain or gut instinct is trying to tell you something, it's usually worth paying attention to it.
In other news :
regarding the " ugly" squad chick now :
Elizabeth Ludlow
Pretty sexy lady if you ask me and I would definitely would, then again, I'm not the most impartial judge since she strongly reminds me of an (Egyptian) ex-girlfriend (which was crazy but incredible in the sack - like most crazy chicks are)
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Bojji
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That one fell into performance enhancment drugs cauldron when she was just a kid, obelix style
She almost drowned in liquid testosterone like Abby?
xanaum
Member
This dude probably works mornings as Mike, then after lunch he throws on some women's clothes and does another full shift as Kate. That way there's never any crunch problem 'cause it's basically two people working for the price of one.
Crunch problem solved, just turn all the employees into part-time transvestites.
This is why:
So they picked the wrong screenshot, doesn't matter, the point is her 2015 face is exactly her face just with worse tech. They didn't intentionally fuck her face up and it wasn't "impossible" to scan an accurate image, even back then.
That's from the 2015 credits. Who does that look like? That's right, it looks just like the actress who played the character. Now why is it that in 2015 they could do this, but in 2026 it's impossible for Microsoft or Sony to make a female character that doesn't look like the fucking Swamp Thing?
That's the thing. Her face does look like her scan:
Not 100% like for like pics but a hell of a lot better than what some are doing here to troll. you can see the scan is fairly accurate.
People don't compare in good faith and point out differences. They don't try to find the best comparisons to see and discuss possible inaccuracies. They don't consider it's a pretty impressive gameplay model, when discussing the actor they use pics of her from 15 years ago and pretend it's her now, when discussing tech they find a screenshot from a couple of years ago and pretend its from 13 years ago. They pic glamour shots and cherry picked ugly expression screenshots to complain and compare against. What they do is shit like this:
And act like they're arguing in good faith. That's Until Dawn 2024 remake up there too, not the old one.
They're mostly clowning with things like that. If they wanted to discuss inaccuracies in the model they would compare fairly, if they wanted to discuss tech they would mention that often Haydens animated eyes/mouth just looked off in the original until dawn and very uncanny valley, because in reality animations were actually very limited 13 years ago.
Her mouth/eyes did this thing where the middle stayed or the sides went too far up/down due to limited rigging.
DeltaPolarBear
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And? Shift Up doesn't just scan an actress's face and call it a day, they put the character's best face forward. Just as most adult women don't leave their house without makeup on. The argument isn't realism, the argument is that no one is asking you for realism when it comes to demigods. The game is deliberately making her look her worst because we know game studios used to not do that.
"But this is real" just leave us with "but If i want reality, I would touch grass and not pay you for the game."
In the end that is the goal. Games are meant to be made worse so that gamers will stop playing and go generate resources so that women can take those resources off them. The games are designed to fail. A pity gamers have alternatives now.
ElFenomeno
Gold Member
Papito, aren't you supporting them? You're playing the Gothic Remake. The NPC females have male bodies, are covered and fugly. You pointed this shit out few months ago.Western developers hate women, change my mind
Shift up didn't even scan any actors face. They only scanned somebody's body.
Bojji
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Western developers hate women, change my mind
Noooo, It's just a coincidence that almost all western games released after 2020 have female characters that look worse than models they are based on. Technology is bad or something... hahaha.
We lost that technology...
She is not meant to look like a bimbo here but still looks good ^
No one knows what happened
Crystal Dynamics joined the "ugly" club as well (while Polish FWG remains based):
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Gonzito
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yogaflame
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So cool that they got one of the Hodge twins for this role
DeltaPolarBear
Member
I am sure some face scans are done if only for motion purposes, but obviously they sculpted their ideal face rather than basing on any real person.
midnightAI
Member
This image has been showed a couple of times and completely ignored and I agree, people are just disingenuous by posting photos of her from 20 years ago in full makeup, but its pretty darn close, as is Tati Gabrielle in Intergalactic (hair aside and even then in real life she sports the shaved head look occasionally, thats one of the best in game (if it is in game) models I have seen from a technical aspect). The fact that people instantly recognised that it was Deborah Ann Woll as Faye (many people reacting shouted Karen as soon as she appeared) tells you they have the likeness pretty accurate.That's the thing. Her face does look like her scan:
Not 100% like for like pics but a hell of a lot better than what some are doing here to troll. you can see the scan is fairly accurate.
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As far as I know there isn't any facial motion capture. It's limited animations and keyframed:
Maybe the new one has facial motion capture.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Its fixed
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Seems like they really listened to feedback! Very nice of them.Its fixed
ElFenomeno
Gold Member
Bojji
Member
WTF are you talking about?
And no one ignores it, it's just cherry picked. Her general skull and face shape is correct, but she still looks worse than in reality (even 41yo).
And what's wrong with makeup?
Even Lara had makeup while exploring tombs, and this was in realistic games in the series done by CD?
Prodyhig
Woke Content Consultant (DEI-Hire)
The director's intended message about the character is often overlooked, just as it happens in film.
I've seen male actors considered by many to be the "most handsome men on the planet" play roles where their physical appearance isn't ideal.
An example is Leonardo DiCaprio in Killers of the Flower Moon:
Is this a Judeo-Masonic conspiracy?
Shouldn't the director have the freedom to choose how to present their characters?
Or are all the characters going to be extravagantly handsome and sexy?
DeltaPolarBear
Member
You are free to star anyone for your creation, sure. Just don't expect anyone to pay you their money for your art. Art doesn't sell. You only get to sell what your customers WANT.
So have your artistic integrity, just don't be surprised to be starving and broke.
midnightAI
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You mean like the pictures that make her look bad?
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Prodyhig
Woke Content Consultant (DEI-Hire)
But if we use your logic...
Do you know how many great movies we would have missed if we didn't base our opinions solely on box office revenue?
Look at the world's top-grossing movies.
Avatar
Avengers: Endgame
Avatar: The Way of Water
Titanic
Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
Do you think that's the pinnacle of cinema?
Bojji
Member
That you and your friends posted, actual bad real life pictures of Deborah? (so who hates women here?) This is a video game, they can make her model look better or worse in ~15 minutes using engine tools, they just don't want to because they prefer her looking like shit.
I just don't get why actresses agree to such treatment, normally women try to look the best on every occasion, my woman puts on makeup even when going to nearby store (5 min on foot). Of course there are exceptions like Kristen Stewart, but this is driven by woke agenda as well:
To this
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Guilty_AI
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God of War is star wars and avengers
, Its fast food game for the masses.Look what happened with those movie IPs when they attempted to be anything else. They cannot afford it, especially when they aren't good at it.
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