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Xbox: "These [E-Day and Clockwork] are not timed exclusives. Games already announced for multiplatform releases will stick to that plan"
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crunchyBiscuits
Member
Somehow XBOX exclusives have returned
Perhaps this will inject some much needed competition between Sony and MS again...
Fingers crossed. Competition is good for the industry
Perhaps this will inject some much needed competition between Sony and MS again...
Fingers crossed. Competition is good for the industry
Moses85
Member
Grubb also saying there is a finished version of gears e day for ps5.
Tick tock tick tock, just a matter of time asha comes to the same conclusion as Phil.
The game is already in the polishing phase. He is 100% right. Stupid decision by Xbox.
Kerotan
Gold Member
A perfect example of damaging a game's potential. It sold way less at launch and by the time it came to ps5 we weren't interested.
Gears is this full circle.
The helix effect.
gametimedecision
Gold Member
Yeah one thing he also said was this decision to cancel the PlayStation release was literally made last week…that's why it's not crazy at all they have a PlayStation version.
Lowkey extremely ballsy and risky to cancel it this far out.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
Phil was trying something too. And then he started trying something else. Now, the new management is trying something "new" by going back to what Phil was trying to do before he started trying something else. While at the same time trying something worse than the second thing Phil tried to begin with.
I haven't got a crystal ball, but I can tell you right now that it's not going to work. Don't ask me how I know that.
LostDonkey
Member
Wasn't PS5 built in conjunction with UE5? Remember the demos? I can't see it being that much work getting it running on there.
MisterXDTV
Member
I didn't know SteamDeck was an Xbox
Witchilich
Member
Since the beginning no company wants there console hacked, but gets hacked anyway.
Not just 1st party. Plenty of 3rd party games require no day 1 patch. This includes most JRPGS and even some western publishers like Rockstar (not the online portion ofcourse). A lot of games can be played without day 1 patch. I am not really interested in whatever companies like Ubisoft and ActiBliz make anyway.
Yes. What of it?
I am talking about a platform for DRM free single player games like traditional consoles. Why does Indiana Jones need a Day 1 patch? Why can't they commit to a proper physical release?Yeah .. 'my corporation is better than your corporation' isn't the win you think it is, sadly.
gametimedecision
Gold Member
They are failing, it's make this push or completely stop making consoles. You have all said it yourselves 0 reason to own an xbox without exclusives..they seem to actually be trying to push hardware, if it fails it fails, but if console growth is your hope…this is a decent first step.
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Kerotan
Gold Member
It'll fail because they won't go all in on this and nobody believes the games won't eventually come to ps5.
Plus the only IP that seems powerful on playstation is Forza and that's because there's a gap there for it.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Would have bought day 1 on ps5 pro
Now I probably won't ever play it
Didn't look good enough to re-buy an Xbox
Now I probably won't ever play it
Didn't look good enough to re-buy an Xbox
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Thing tho is at least Steam enhances the strengths of Windows as an OS ecosystem, since that's where most Steam users reside.
PlayStation releases of MS games doesn't bolster any aspect of the Windows ecosystem (from a consumer-side POV to MS), and it doesn't lead to boosting Xbox hardware sales either. So it's less congruent as a means of bolstering MS's ecosystem proliferation than Steam.
That's probably how suits at Xbox are viewing this to justify rolling out some console exclusives again. Guess we'll see how Gears, Clockwork etc. do to see if MS justify continuing that strategy or pivot again.
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Yeah, that one that was free on PSN for everyone to download that can't be anymore, that one. Shouldn't it be playable on a 'platform where games can be played without DRM like a traditional console'.
Not really. It was a free demo and Konami cancelled the game. As the demo was for a Silent Hill game that would never release, Konami delisted it from the PlayStation Store, then went further by completely wiping it from Sony's servers. That was all down up to Konami.
gametimedecision
Gold Member
That's why you do it now a couple years before helix..to kinda prove to the audience you won't backtrack.
Remember this brand needs alot of good will and some luck if they have any hope to come back in any meaningful way. Your suggestion is to just fully throw in the towel…but at that point why even make a console?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Asha's balls in my throat?
What you're describing is exactly the same case on Xbox as well. If you're saying every single Xbox disc game requires content updates then that's just flat out wrong.
Oh nothing. Just DRM shenanigans I suppose
If you're going to use Indy as an example, only Switch 2 is a traditional console cause that's the only platform the game completely ships on cart, lol. The PS5 version also requires content download.
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But I digress, what is this weird tangent year 7 into the console lifecycle? We're not in 2020 anymore, all these games, content and servers will persist for Helix and beyond as well.
Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
For better for worse, that's a question that even Microsoft wouldn't know how to answer...
Bojji
Member
Grubb also saying there is a finished version of gears e day for ps5.
Tick tock tick tock, just a matter of time asha comes to the same conclusion as Phil.
I mean, Xbox sales will be low as fuck. But sometimes...
Goalus
Member
This is where I entered the discussion:
And if you check everything I wrote after that, you will find that I never claimed that PC is categorically Microsoft's ecosystem.
laynelane
Gold Member
They're the ones who will bear the consequences if the game fails to do the numbers it needs to, as well. I'm sure that's running through their minds too.
MisterXDTV
Member
Reality Check
- Steam has a 75% market share of PC gaming
Microsoft is behind Epic Store too
/discussion
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Mr.Phoenix
Member
Do what exactly?
Announce two games and make them console-exclusive? While simultaneously announcing 8 others and making those available on PS5?
But more importantly... do you think the demise of Xbox started before or after they started releasing their games on PlayStation?
If they wanted to actually make a point... and I said this before this show... they should have kept EVERYTHING exclusive to Xbox. Fuck PS and fuck PC. That's the ONLY way you rebuild your brand. Anything but that is just lip service.
Moriarty1889
Member
I understand your point but they have to at least try something.
ExtendEmbraceExtinguish
Member
No.
Witchilich
Member
Yeah but they still force you to login with a Microsoft account to a system that will never get hacked. And with 50 GB discs, most publishers will not put the full game on disc. There are only a few niche games that will support this.
Just like FF XI. These kind of games have always existed.Oh nothing. Just DRM shenanigans I suppose
Thats on Microsoft, its not Sony's fault. Sony provided the platform to do this and even supplied 100 GB discs. Nothing stopping them from putting the full game on disc. Sony also set an example by having 1st party single player titles playable without day 1 patch.
And yes, Nintendo is the same. 1st party Nintendo games don't use Game Key Card or need day 1 patch. Pokemon made by Gamefreak does, but they later release updated versions of cartridges without day 1 patch. So many JRPGs have the full game on cartridge without day 1 patch.
How long will the online functionality of a console released on 2013 exist? Eventually it will go away. And then it can't be hacked and you are stuck with having to form an online account for new users.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Asha's balls in my throat?
I mean, Xbox sales will be low as fuck. But sometimes...
Asha said she'll do it.
Asha did it.
Asha don't give a fuck.
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Also, watching the Gears portion of the show and something caught my eye.
Their dumbass demo player tossed a grenade, only ended up hurting himself and then did a cool slide to 'walk it off, no one saw that'
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
The illustrious black woman boogie man.You are going to love the story.
/s
Nothing shown seemed out of place, out of theme, DEI, woke, etc.
Unless she fucks it I'm goimg to trust what I've seen so far being a grounded war story about two dudes dealing with the loss of their one common thread- Carlos.
semiconscious
Member
reinking
Gold Member
I know it is their goal. I just don't like it. While I game on PC, I am a console gamer at heart. I know I am a minority but I really wish they would reconsider their console-hybrid approach. Make a traditional console and let OEMs handle the XBOX PC brand. I would probably double dip on "XBOX" hardware if they did that.
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Steve Holt
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Didn't look too hot, thought it would be a lot more interesting.
They seem to be running out of ideas.
They seem to be running out of ideas.
Astray
Member
Literally during this exact show they announced brand new titles for PS5 that weren't announced before lol.
At this point I think they want to keep people spending as much as possible on Series consoles before they sunset the platform. Nothing else explains this constant back and forth.
reinking
Gold Member
Grubb also saying there is a finished version of gears e day for ps5.
Tick tock tick tock, just a matter of time asha comes to the same conclusion as Phil.
...but I remember it being said that Phil had no choice. That was before they turned on Phil. Now we will see if history repeats itself or if Asha truly has the balls to run XBOX.
MisterXDTV
Member
Js562
Gold Member
I think most people will know whatever Xbox releases will be on pc the same time. They stated before that before regarding ps5 releases they'll still announce ps5 version in there videos. Unless I'm reading that shit wrong
Two game for now but we'll see in the future might change. Hope it changes under the new lead. The new head she probably still trying to figure shit out in the background with everyone . Who knows right now
Fortuneelsewhere
Member
They couldn't pull everything right now as they were already release plans communicated and contracts signed for many games. Besides I think this strategy will be implemented in phases.
If they still want to be in the console market, exclusives are obligatory for them to leverage their hardware and rebuild the brand.
Something is changing at XBOX. They finally are growing a brain…
If they do this correctly next gen they will be back in the game and that can only be wonderful news for the industry.
Fabieter
Member
Why would it?
MisterXDTV
Member
Sure it will work this time....
LOL
Same shit Phil Spencer did 6 years ago, now he is gone fishing
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I'm beyond caring at this point and literally don't have the time for three platforms.
PC and PS going forward. I'll keep my Series X for my digital library on XBOX and that's that.
XBOX is just too messy and all over the place, it's like that dude who keeps breaking up with his girlfriend but then fucks her when he's drunk, only to break up with again her two weeks later.
PC and PS going forward. I'll keep my Series X for my digital library on XBOX and that's that.
XBOX is just too messy and all over the place, it's like that dude who keeps breaking up with his girlfriend but then fucks her when he's drunk, only to break up with again her two weeks later.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
They opted to waste a completed build and pikachu face retailers last minute while simultaniously announcing new FP games for the PS5
Make it make sense
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She's asking Co-Pilot what to do.
MisterXDTV
Member
Exactly, if they could pull Gears, they could have pulled them all from Playstation
They didn't
They are just trolling their shills that eat every bullshit thing they say
Skifi28
Member
I think it's a perfect example of trying to have your cake and eat it too and the new "just 4 games guys, trust us" . They want to release Day one on PC, announce most of their games for PS5 while also tyring to grow Xbox with exclusives after being completely abandoned and dead. How is that gonna work out exactly? They keep changing their strategy so often I'm not sure even they know what they're trying to do.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
It's not returning, they are just creating that perception now because GTA 6 will move Xbox consoles this year so they are trying to move as much Xbox consoles as they can until they release the next console.
Once the dust settles on GTA 6 they will be moving back to being full 3rd party.
