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God of War: Laufey Announced

Chessuz christ dude, what a hill to die after all that women bullcrap talk.
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Name other people admitting they were wrong instead of doubling down. I was wrong about being replaced because I didnt see that tweet, but other than that, I still stand by it.
 
You have an apt name.
This site has become a cesspit of clowns and haters. That's why I've started to come on here less and less. Every game is meh, boring, generic etc etc. It's become tiresome. If this game isn't for you then why are you here?
I know for a fact the female character is gonna trigger some pathetic folk. God forbid a female being the lead.
This game looks great if you like God of War style games. It will be a top tier production without a doubt.
Bring it on!
PS Two fingers to the haterz
Someone doesn't like what you like and you proceed to cry about it. Go touch grass dude.
 
Those kids are all playing Roblox, Fortnite, Marvel Rivals etc tho. Not buying full priced titles mostly.
It doesn't matter
First - age structure of market, and it was always so, says that with aging people leave gaming market (it's quite understandable as interests shifts to many form of adult entertainment, family every so often force to quit regular gaming and ultimately some people literally die). This means that for any games targeting particular (fixed) group of people it's player base will shrink over time, forcing to reduce variety or budget or both.
Second - it's true that younger crowd massively prefer live service game and with time flow it pose massive threat to single player games of today as gaas band keep moving upwards, kicking a lot of SP out of business (it's already happening to angst and massive whining of SP lovers). But there is still ~15-20% of market left to SP market even in fully matured live service markets (I judge it by asian - China/Korea/Japan ratios, those are quite mature in this regard). And to survive SP should focus on that 15-20% crowd of younger gen otherwise it'll be a real-world battle royale over ever shrinking money pie.
And 15-20% actually quite a lot when there is not much of a good SP product tailored for younger crowd, most still tries to milk old formulas

nope...bullshit with everyting remotely "gaming" tossed into one bucket.
If you look it up by platform, consoles specifically, you`ll find the average age to be 30s - mid 40s depending on the source of the stats. If you go further and look at the spending percentages it gets much....much more drastic even.
You´re basically pretending that the roblox/fortnite/mobile crowd is the target demographic for full price console games.....
That's ESA and not some wannabe bullshit of "analysts"
 
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I don't like the idea of playing an entire God of War game as Faye, sorry. It's not because she's a woman (even though the female lead thing is becoming overdone), It's because the emotional investment of this series is Kratos. The audience has followed him from rage, revenge, guilt, fatherhood, grief, and redemption. That's the character people are attached to.

I wouldn't want a Batman game where Batman is pushed aside so I can play as Batgirl for the whole thing. I wouldn't want a Halo game centered on Dr. Halsey instead of Master Chief. I wouldn't want a Doom game where you play as some background character while Doom Slayer becomes the mythology.

That's the problem here. The heart of the franchise is not just gods, giants, axes, and mythology. It's Kratos. He's the soul of the franchise.
 
I don't like the idea of playing an entire God of War game as Faye, sorry. It's not because she's a woman (even though the female lead thing is becoming overdone), It's because the emotional investment of this series is Kratos. The audience has followed him from rage, revenge, guilt, fatherhood, grief, and redemption. That's the character people are attached to.

I wouldn't want a Batman game where Batman is pushed aside so I can play as Batgirl for the whole thing. I wouldn't want a Halo game centered on Dr. Halsey instead of Master Chief. I wouldn't want a Doom game where you play as some background character while Doom Slayer becomes the mythology.

That's the problem here. The heart of the franchise is not just gods, giants, axes, and mythology. It's Kratos. He's the soul of the franchise.

Fair point, let others enjoy God of War Laufey though. As a fan of the franchise since 2005 and having played almost all of the games in their original platform of release (except for Betrayal and the 2.5D side scroller that came out a few months ago), can't wait for Laufey to release. Here's hoping it's out next year alongside Intergalactic.
 
I hope the game does well. The industry has a knack for misunderstanding what players want.
If this game does bad it will translate as players don't want GOW games anymore. Not the fact that Kratos was not playable and the gamers missed him.
 
I hope the game does well. The industry has a knack for misunderstanding what players want.
If this game does bad it will translate as players don't want GOW games anymore. Not the fact that Kratos was not playable and the gamers missed him.

Don't worry. This game will receive very high scores from the biased journalists. It'll be something like 90+. None of them will give the game harsh reviews.
 
Why the fuck is everyone defending so dense and deliberately missing the point?

You're not gay or woke for enjoying it. You're simply not a fan of the God of War franchise, and that's totally fine.

The issue isn't that she's yet another female protagonist. The issue is that she's replacing Kratos one of PlayStation's most beloved and iconic characters, who has been the face of the franchise since 2005.

If you want to make a game about your new character with her jelly cube companion and magic ribbons, then go ahead and do it. Just leave Kratos as the God of War.

Imagine the backlash if Tomb Raider replaced Lara Croft with a dude. People would lose their minds. Why should this be any different?

What makes it worse is that this isn't some spin off. It's a mainline entry in the series. The only chance we'll likely get to see Kratos again is in the upcoming remakes, which will probably end up being censored and watered down trash anyway.
Its called expanding the Universe. Good lord.

Its a franchise.

Franchises do this all the time. Not every entry has to revolve around the same protagonist from beginning to end. Expanding the world through different characters is one of the most common ways long-running franchises stay fresh.

Kratos isn't dead. He'll be back on PS6. And he will obviously be playable in this at some point.

 
It doesn't matter
The people who are currently paying the bills in the full price AAA market by an overwhelming margin are the ~30 - mid 40 year old gamers. Saying that "doesn`t matter" when talking about exactly such a full price AAA product is simply
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That kind of incredibly delusional target demographic understanding is what leads to Concords....

That's ESA and not some wannabe bullshit of "analysts"
They are treating "gaming" as one big pot and that is absolute and utter bullshit. It´s worthless outside of academic interest.
 
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These kinda idiots are the ones most triggering me:



"Afraid" Yea man, we "afraid" to play as a female character. My favorite game protagonist is Lara Croft and i'm afraid to play as female character, sure. Playing dumb and pretending to not understand what's going on is like 24/7

He's a fat, bald gimp.

You'd likely find more testosterone in a pot plant.

Everything these dorks do is for validation.
 
Kratos, as a character, was run into the ground before GOW 2018. People forget that. His storyline seems complete after Ragnarok. If it was up to me, I would retire Kratos and start doing spin offs in the GOW universe. Which this game is attempting to do

I would be perfectly fine with a Doom style silent character, but gamers don't want that. The recent Doom game sold like shit.

Let's be honest, pretty much any female character, that isn't eye candy with little dialogue, you would have a massive problem playing as and would consider a "girl boss". Feye isn't some new character. Her characters history was well defined in 2018

I don't disagree that the Marvel comedic quips can be cringe, but the story unveiled here seems pretty solid. Better than the vast majority of AAA video games. Sometimes I wish Sony simplified their stories and dialogue. I can understand that criticism, but again, that is not what sells their games. God of War has never been a bigger franchise

Edit-Christ, your name is "General Lee". I prefer Generals that don't lose the war

You assume too much. I don't give a shit what generals you prefer, nor is it a reference to what you think it is. Try to concentrate on what's actually being said instead of just showing your own ass.

I have zero problem playing with female characters when they're made interesting and fit the game. A Faye game made in the same vein as the Sons of Sparta would've been whatever and skipped by most, but this is a mainline entry made for a totally different audience. They've completely changed what GOW is about with Ragnarok and now with this. At least GOW 2018 was still about Kratos so we were still playing a story that was about him and aimed mostly at the same crowd as before, even if it was 'matured' in tone and neutered from any sexuality.

Here we are changing the franchise completely, and telling people 'get over it grandpa stop yelling at clouds' and then wondering why the western AAAs are collapsing and Stellar Babes made with a fraction of the budget sell same or more. People's tastes haven't changed, the industry trends have, and the people in key decision making positions. There's tons of dudes willing to pay money for devs that cater to them, and it's not just about vapid sexy designs. Sony seemingly thinks it can have its cake and eat it too by trying to cater to new audiences while paying lip service to their established fans. How many studios dying will it take to learn that women didn't grow a set of balls all of a sudden, and men lost them? GOW is the wrong franchise to be doing this.

As for clarification about the Doom style refresh for GOW, I don't want a silent Kratos, but simply lean into the game-ass-game that GOW was, and not go the route of trying to psychoanalyze him and do a pained 'realistic' sad dad take of him while trying juggle all the issues that brings with it. He's cancelled, for good. There ain't no redemption arc for characters like him in the progressive playbook. GOW is supposed to be a fun adrenaline romp, not a deep cut about modern dad son relationships. But that's what they went with, until it wasn't even about that anymore. I refuse to believe that gamers want to turn their fun franchises into what Sony tries with all of its franchises, to make it a 'prestige' story and cutscene heavy title that tries to justify all the arcadey shit that happened in the old games. It's a tonal mess that doesn't work most of the time, and they should stop forcing it. It's okay to make games that make no sense in real life. It's called fantasy for a reason. If you want something more modern and realistic like TLOU, then make more TLOU. They are trying to remake the og GOW too, so maybe they'll try to pretend they're still catering to us, but we'll see how they'll manage neuter it in the end.

The writers don't get what makes fantasy great in the first place, that you can actually get immersed in another world that isn't like ours, without sarcastic quips and therapy talk. To be Phranque, it makes me depressed. You can still have positive universal messaging in your game set in the medieval times without it being instantly 'woke'. It just requires far more finesse than what the current crop of writers are capable of.
 
Its called expanding the Universe. Good lord.

Its a franchise.

Franchises do this all the time. Not every entry has to revolve around the same protagonist from beginning to end. Expanding the world through different characters is one of the most common ways long-running franchises stay fresh.

Kratos isn't dead. He'll be back on PS6. And he will obviously be playable in this at some point.
Exactly ☝️

People acting like the Marvel universe would be better if there was only one character. :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 
You have an apt name.
This site has become a cesspit of clowns and haters. That's why I've started to come on here less and less. Every game is meh, boring, generic etc etc. It's become tiresome. If this game isn't for you then why are you here?
I know for a fact the female character is gonna trigger some pathetic folk. God forbid a female being the lead.
This game looks great if you like God of War style games. It will be a top tier production without a doubt.
Bring it on!
PS Two fingers to the haterz
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Normal gamers when they see:

Woke crowd cry:

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Anti Woke crowd cry:

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Game looks okay for the first look. Will buy it when it's on sale or discount.
 
...And so the replacement of male protagonists with 'strong, masculine' female or otherwise ambiguous characters continues. This permeates all forms of entertainment, be they video games, TV shows, cartoons, movies, etc. The agenda also extends to local schools (pride parades for Kindergarten kids, LGBT flags flown alongside (and at the same mast as) our nation's flag outside all public and catholic schools, government buildings, etc.) As a father of two boys, I say to you all that it has become exceedingly difficult to raise boys into proper men in current society. The women in my family, wife included, agree with this view - which shows me that this is not something the majority of humanity wants. They want men to be manly and women to be feminine. I'll never believe that the erosion of masculinity at scale is not a deliberate international plot. In many Western countries today, you can be banned from events, entire countries, or even imprisoned for speaking up against these things. We should be more upset at this.

We like to joke and make memes about these kinds of things on the internet, but this humour is a facade. Men are noticing, feeling unwanted, unvalued, underemployed, depressed, and eventually, becoming very angry. History has repeatedly shown us that masses of angry and unemployed men have led humanity to violence and conflict (wars). Who knows? Perhaps this is what we're being pushed towards.

I feel like I sound crazy for posting this in a thread about a dumb video game on a video games forum, but it simply is what it is. Perhaps being a parent has put things in perspective for me personally.

English is not my first language, so apologies for mistakes.
 
Exactly ☝️

People acting like the Marvel universe would be better if there was only one character. :messenger_grinning_sweat:

Batman is a franchise, not a universe.


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If you want to see more of Robin, you don't replace Batman, you instead create the new "Robin" franchise.

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God of War is a franchise, not a universe.

If you want to see more of Faye, you don't replace Kratos, you instead create the new "Faye" franchise.

Remedy Entertainment understood this and that's why it's not called Alan Wake: Control but they made Control it's own franchise within the wider "Remedy Connected Universe"
 
All I can say is the memes about this game are off to a decent start. And its just the beginning.

The trailer ratio isn't looking too hot now either:

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Who really care about 2.5 old-timers who are halfway to the grave?
This monopolization "we are true fans" are stupid and should stop. Ragnarok sold 15+ mio and this game is continuation of that and ~younger~ crowd, not some whinny "I want my green grass back" nostalgy gramps

Really, know your fucking place - you are getting older and your strata getting smaller. You are being replaced by young's as it was always was, is and will be. Bitching on forum will not make people of your age who have similar preferences play more. And if your strata play less - you are less important for publishers. Accept reality already.
"Know your fucking place"

Aren't you the same guy who predicted that Marathon would be successful as well as denied that the Bungie 3.6B acquisition wasn't a terrible move? How's that working out for you? I guess being blinded by money bills, using demographic charts as a crutch and spreadsheets can only get your "formidable" foresight so far.
 
You have an apt name.
This site has become a cesspit of clowns and haters. That's why I've started to come on here less and less. Every game is meh, boring, generic etc etc. It's become tiresome. If this game isn't for you then why are you here?
I know for a fact the female character is gonna trigger some pathetic folk. God forbid a female being the lead.
This game looks great if you like God of War style games. It will be a top tier production without a doubt.
Bring it on!
PS Two fingers to the haterz
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...And so the replacement of male protagonists with 'strong, masculine' female or otherwise ambiguous characters continues. This permeates all forms of entertainment, be they video games, TV shows, cartoons, movies, etc. The agenda also extends to local schools (pride parades for Kindergarten kids, LGBT flags flown alongside (and at the same mast as) our nation's flag outside all public and catholic schools, government buildings, etc.) As a father of two boys, I say to you all that it has become exceedingly difficult to raise boys into proper men in current society. The women in my family, wife included, agree with this view - which shows me that this is not something the majority of humanity wants. They want men to be manly and women to be feminine. I'll never believe that the erosion of masculinity at scale is not a deliberate international plot. In many Western countries today, you can be banned from events, entire countries, or even imprisoned for speaking up against these things. We should be more upset at this.

We like to joke and make memes about these kinds of things on the internet, but this humour is a facade. Men are noticing, feeling unwanted, unvalued, underemployed, depressed, and eventually, becoming very angry. History has repeatedly shown us that masses of angry and unemployed men have led humanity to violence and conflict (wars). Who knows? Perhaps this is what we're being pushed towards.

I feel like I sound crazy for posting this in a thread about a dumb video game on a video games forum, but it simply is what it is. Perhaps being a parent has put things in perspective for me personally.

English is not my first language, so apologies for mistakes.

Absolutely amazing post, brother. Couldn't agree more. 💯
 
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This was my take after seeing the new gods. It's probably a transitional game to the next Kratos game

This is cope. Kratos MC will never happen again, unless this one flops in a cataclysmic fashion.

It won't though. Sales will amount to around 5M copies during its full commercial cycle, the drones will say it's a great success and the bold new direction for the saga. The next game will be even cringier and nosedive the franchise into an unrecoverable state.

This will share the same fate as Mass Effect or Dragon Age.
 
...And so the replacement of male protagonists with 'strong, masculine' female or otherwise ambiguous characters continues. This permeates all forms of entertainment, be they video games, TV shows, cartoons, movies, etc. The agenda also extends to local schools (pride parades for Kindergarten kids, LGBT flags flown alongside (and at the same mast as) our nation's flag outside all public and catholic schools, government buildings, etc.) As a father of two boys, I say to you all that it has become exceedingly difficult to raise boys into proper men in current society. The women in my family, wife included, agree with this view - which shows me that this is not something the majority of humanity wants. They want men to be manly and women to be feminine. I'll never believe that the erosion of masculinity at scale is not a deliberate international plot. In many Western countries today, you can be banned from events, entire countries, or even imprisoned for speaking up against these things. We should be more upset at this.

We like to joke and make memes about these kinds of things on the internet, but this humour is a facade. Men are noticing, feeling unwanted, unvalued, underemployed, depressed, and eventually, becoming very angry. History has repeatedly shown us that masses of angry and unemployed men have led humanity to violence and conflict (wars). Who knows? Perhaps this is what we're being pushed towards.

I feel like I sound crazy for posting this in a thread about a dumb video game on a video games forum, but it simply is what it is. Perhaps being a parent has put things in perspective for me personally.

English is not my first language, so apologies for mistakes.
An entire generation of boys in the West grew up watching anime because it hasn't succumbed to the cultural inversion and still has strong male role models and stories about the hero's journey, personal development, strength and virtue.
 
After sleeping on this
Still happy for Jess from DareDevil
Still love Jack Quaid

But this shit looks corny, sorry, you know what would have been cooler, if it wasn't a fucking cube and the game was made in the style of the old PS3 games. Everything doesn't have to be "cinematic" I'm not buying games to watch movies
 
About what I expected, impressive on a technical and graphical level, but combat just seems ok with scripted "spectacle" moments, but with zero Kratos shown and the sheer levels of high fantasy they're pumping into what appears to be either Mesopotamian or Egyptian lore I found myself multiple times during the presentation saying, "They're still calling this God of War?".
I can get behind some of the complaints here but this whining about the combat is simply showing your ass, like you know nothing about how GoW combat systems have worked since the first god damn game.

This combat looks generally very good. Like the best bits of GoW 2018 & Ragnarok combat (weight, dynamic set-pieces, parry system, over the shoulder PoV) and merged them in with elements from the older trilogy (feels faster and more brutal, hopefully more finisher variety etc).

Also, this Everywhen seems to be a hub for all pantheon gods after death. So potentially some returning faces? (Odin? Zeus? Baldur?), as well as gods from lots of regional historical pantheons (already showing Chinese, Mongolian/Tibetan & Egyptian).

Finally, All this whining about "Why call it GoW" is silly, because it's simply the next entry in the franchise (itself named after the main character). Kratos does not have a monopoly on being the God of War, as he took the mantle from Aries in the first game, and equally went toe-to-toe with Thor in the norse saga. Already in this trailer we see another God of War represented; Begtse.
 
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I think it looked amazing, combat and music was great. Really want to see whats up with that sword. There is a lot of potential with the mixed pantheon of Gods. There is a chance we see the dead Greek Gods here??
 
I can get behind some of the complaints here but this whining about the combat is simply showing your ass, like you know nothing about how GoW combat systems have worked since the first god damn game.

This combat looks generally very good. Like the best bits of GoW 2018 & Ragnarok combat (weight, dynamic set-pieces, parry system, over the shoulder PoV) and merged them in with elements from the older trilogy (feels faster and more brutal, hopefully more finisher variety etc).

Also, this Everywhen seems to be a hub for all pantheon gods after death. So potentially some returning faces? (Odin? Zeus? Baldur?), as well as gods from lots of regional historical pantheons (already showing Chinese, Mongolian/Tibetan & Egyptian).

Finally, All this whining about "Why call it GoW" is silly, because it's simply the next entry in the franchise (itself named after the main character). Kratos does not have a monopoly on being the God of War, as he took the mantle from Aries in the first game, and equally went toe-to-toe with Thor in the norse saga. Already in this trailer we see another God of War represented; Begtse.
How is saying "The combat seems just ok" whining? Fuck off dude.
 
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An entire generation of boys in the West grew up watching anime because it hasn't succumbed to the cultural inversion and still has strong male role models and stories about the hero's journey, personal development, strength and virtue.
Anime and Asian games ... its what my son mainly plays on his Ps5 .. right now he is battling through nine sols and we just watched dorohedoro
 
I don't like the idea of playing an entire God of War game as Faye, sorry. It's not because she's a woman (even though the female lead thing is becoming overdone), It's because the emotional investment of this series is Kratos. The audience has followed him from rage, revenge, guilt, fatherhood, grief, and redemption. That's the character people are attached to.

I wouldn't want a Batman game where Batman is pushed aside so I can play as Batgirl for the whole thing. I wouldn't want a Halo game centered on Dr. Halsey instead of Master Chief. I wouldn't want a Doom game where you play as some background character while Doom Slayer becomes the mythology.

That's the problem here. The heart of the franchise is not just gods, giants, axes, and mythology. It's Kratos. He's the soul of the franchise.
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It looks worse than Hellblade 2 in both Animations and Graphics


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Hellblade 2 is a tech demo corridor game with two huge bars cutting half of the screen like The Order was back then. They are technical showcases but nothing else...except The Order was at least interesting in terms of lore, good script, characters, story etc.
 
Hellblade 2 is a tech demo corridor game with two huge bars cutting half of the screen like The Order was back then. They are technical showcases but nothing else...except The Order was at least interesting in terms of lore, good script, characters, story etc.
Not to mention, most of the environments in HB2 are barren, with almost no vegetation or life.
 
The 'God of War' title has been specifically referencing Kratos throughout. Just as 'The Witcher' has been specifically referencing Geralt throughout. They are not vaguely alluding to the role but to a specific individual.

Both now dropped from the lead role in franchises named for them to be replaced as lead by female side characters.
 
That doesn't look woke at all. The character is feminine and bad ass. Not a purple hair weirdo dressed like a man. The actress model is beautiful. Also, the trailer looks amazing both graphically and gameplay wise. Let me jump in that square jelly and wiggle hard baby
 
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Seem to be going against the majority here but, I think it looks really good, looking forward to see how the story meshes with GoW 2018 and Ragnarok. I liked those 2 games though so I guess I'm the target audience.

I'm guessing it releases April/May 2027
 
The 'God of War' title has been specifically referencing Kratos throughout. Just as 'The Witcher' has been specifically referencing Geralt throughout. They are not vaguely alluding to the role but to a specific individual.

Both now dropped from the lead role in franchises named for them to be replaced as lead by female side characters.
But if in the end The Witcher 4 and this GOW are good, isn't that what really matters?
 
But if in the end The Witcher 4 and this GOW are good, isn't that what really matters?
No it is not what matters at all. The identity of those games are tied to those characters. If they don't want to write about those characters, put the franchise on ice for a while and do something new.

Many don't want their favorite franchises sullied just because publishers and devs don't want to take risks on new ip.
 
Imagine the mindset within Sony these days to actually think...

"I think it's time for a new God of War game.....but let's make the player play as Kratos middle aged wife instead of him. Forspoken got a bad rap with it's woke DEI girl boss character, so lets do the same but make her extra RAGE-EY!!! We'll put out best overweight female that hates Trump and conservatives as the Game Director too so that there is no possible way any male gamers will get any sort of experience except the modern day audience one that we will make them have whether they like it or not"

Barlog is the SSM creative director these days, so stop giving this has-been a free pass too. He green lighted this shit, so he takes as much of the blame as everyone else over there.

I can't even believe im saying this.....Jaffe is right, this looks like shit.
 
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I think some of you need to go sleep with your wives and girlfriends, tonight. Have you forgotten what women look and act like? The character, looks and personality and all, is fine.
 
Why the fuck are we still shimmying through cracks in walls?
There was an interview with someone from Naughty Dog I think (one of the Sony studios) about how they still use that because people like it or something.

Some gamers just really love when your game slows to a crawl to show some animation that differs from the basics. I don't understand it, the novelty of "wow the video game character did a thing more than just walking/jumping" wore off for me ages ago.
 
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