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Anyone Seriously Considering Sitting the Next Generation Out, Or at Least the Launch?
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sainraja
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If they push cloud without support, it won't last long, and if we support native gaming capabilities for as long as they are offered, then chances are good we'll see it longer. Nothing is guaranteed, of course, but why take the chance? Why be picky about next-gen hardware that will play games natively because of "reasons"? Given where the prices are going, if you are able to afford to spend money on gaming, then you have enough disposable income not to be picky for "reasons".
SoloCamo
Member
Last console I actually cared about was the 360 and even then I was gifted one. Only newer ones since have been a switch oled (bought quite a bit after it's launch) and switch 2 (gifted to me, wasn't planning on buying one)
Besides Nintendo's exclusives I just don't see much justification for them these days if you own a half decent pc. Back in the OG Xbox / ps2 / GC days (and prior), sure but anything newer never really excited me much.
Besides Nintendo's exclusives I just don't see much justification for them these days if you own a half decent pc. Back in the OG Xbox / ps2 / GC days (and prior), sure but anything newer never really excited me much.
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Next gen systems are fucked. Where are ppl going to trade in their systems towards the new ones with no gamestops around. They had pretty good trade offers the past couple of gens. I dont see most ppl selling their stuff on ebay/facebook/craigslist.Craigslist.
Even though I can afford it I'll probably sit out the start if all we going to get are cross gen games with higher fps/res.
Even though I can afford it I'll probably sit out the start if all we going to get are cross gen games with higher fps/res.
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asdasdasdbb
Member
The Gamestop near me is still open. I think anyway... I've never been in there.
OLED_Gamer
Member
Got my PC. I'm good.
WX3
Member
PC is in good health, but I usually am forced to wait until a year or so before I jump to the next generation of console. I am not bothered by the early adoption process, the standing in line in a blizzard, the hunting online to buy the best scalper price, goofy payment schemes like Rent-a-Center, shit like that. I don't have the fear of missing shit, which is funny because if I don't pick up the hottest game on launch I feel overcome with stress and grief like I missed my wife's birthday or something like that!
SkylineRKR
Member
Most likely i'll sit te launch out. I skipped PS5 Pro as well. I don't see the need to rush out. It won't be radically different from now.
Besides, when I load up RE9 or w/e it just looks and plays excellent on base PS5.
Besides, when I load up RE9 or w/e it just looks and plays excellent on base PS5.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
This is the truth, but supposedly if you say it on here, there is alternative motive.
I think it is the best place to play and ultimately offers the most flexibility and consumer friendly practices of any platform. Has longer lasting hardware as well but for some reason, if you mention these things it's seen as a negative on here.
I know lots of Xbox media shill people were shouting about PC in the last year or two so I get that. It doesn't take away from the truths though.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
I basically switched to PC during the PS5 era and two months ago I bought a Laptop with a AMD Strix Halo CPU and a RTX 5080 so there's really no reason for me to go back to PlayStation at the moment.
GametimeUK
Member
I'll wait for the price increase.
PlayStaytion
Member
Naturally, many games will be patched, everyone needs this, and some new games matters and you don't really want to miss it.
Osthyvel
Member
Money is not an issue, time is. But we the gamers/people actually have all the power in our hands. If nobody buys PS6 at launch, well then probably they will cut the price, but then they will assf*ck is in another way, increase price on games or ps+ either way, we cant win.
If we dont buy these things at all, well we aint going to get new consoles and games.
I am actually going backwards, just bought and 14inch crt for my new retroroom, and i am playing more and more on my ps3.
I was thinking about upgrade to an ps5 pro, but actually, there is not a single game so far that really makes a difference, i mean a real difference.
For me its not better visuals longer, i am at a point were its almost as good at is can be, there are other things i value in games; gameplay, replayability etc.
So, i want to say no, i will not buy a ps6 on release, but I know how it probably will end...
If we dont buy these things at all, well we aint going to get new consoles and games.
I am actually going backwards, just bought and 14inch crt for my new retroroom, and i am playing more and more on my ps3.
I was thinking about upgrade to an ps5 pro, but actually, there is not a single game so far that really makes a difference, i mean a real difference.
For me its not better visuals longer, i am at a point were its almost as good at is can be, there are other things i value in games; gameplay, replayability etc.
So, i want to say no, i will not buy a ps6 on release, but I know how it probably will end...
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Salty Pickle
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I'm an early adopter and a sucker for shiny new hardware so I'll buy the PS6 on release day one just like I did with PS5 and PS5 Pro.
Prodyhig
Member
There's little logic in some users' comments.
Let's say the PlayStation 6 costs €699, to use a high price for a console launch.
If you don't have a PC and you have a PlayStation 5 Pro (as is my case).
Even though the PlayStation 6 is more expensive.
Do you think it's cheaper on PC?
No, it isn't, and not by a difference of €100 or €200, but by much more... and I'm only talking about the PC, not including the necessary monitor, since I'm not going to install a bulky PC in the living room.
So... despite the increase in PlayStation hardware, it's still more cost-effective for me to have a PlayStation console. It's not just the price, but because what interests me is the software (the games).
All of this is topped off by the fact that the moment the PlayStation 6 is announced, I'll already have my PlayStation 5 Pro listed on secondhand sales sites.
Let's say the PlayStation 6 costs €699, to use a high price for a console launch.
If you don't have a PC and you have a PlayStation 5 Pro (as is my case).
Even though the PlayStation 6 is more expensive.
Do you think it's cheaper on PC?
No, it isn't, and not by a difference of €100 or €200, but by much more... and I'm only talking about the PC, not including the necessary monitor, since I'm not going to install a bulky PC in the living room.
So... despite the increase in PlayStation hardware, it's still more cost-effective for me to have a PlayStation console. It's not just the price, but because what interests me is the software (the games).
All of this is topped off by the fact that the moment the PlayStation 6 is announced, I'll already have my PlayStation 5 Pro listed on secondhand sales sites.
Steve Holt
Member
This place isn't an echo chamber, different views are everywhere. Some people even lose their shit to get people to boycott console launches due to price and then end up buying said console, everything happens here.
Sohurmk833
Member
PS5 Pro is going to last me at least another 5 years so no intend whatsoever to buy a PS6 anytime soon if at all. If a Switch 3 is on the horizon in the early 2030s i'd might as well drop Playstation altogether.
I'd buy a Switch 2 OLED though.
I'd buy a Switch 2 OLED though.
Bluecondor
Member
I'm definitely holding out at first unless there is some massive leap (like an LLM like Qwen 3.5 3b built on a chip that enables real-time interactions with NPCs).
FR1908
Member
I just can't resist the excitement of picking up a new console on launch day. If its launch window overlaps with a competitor's, I'll buy the one with the strongest launch line-up first, but I'll pick up the other one as soon as that "new console smell" starts to fade -which usually takes only a few weeks..
soulbait
Member
I probably will, but it is too early to know. Price is not an issue for me right now, thankfully, but it really depends on what they bring to the table. It is going to be interesting seeing what new approaches Microsoft and Sony takes in the next generation, and see how they change their business models/products.
Shadowstar39
Member
Me... I only jumped on ps5 because my ps4 was overheating and thr full backwards compatibility. Demon souls was cool but honestly I prefer the original.
PS5 has had many great 3rd party games but 1st party has been shit outside of astrobot and gt7(although that's on ps4 as well). Then the woke and gaas incursion and happens. F no I can wait.
I own a pc, switch 1 and 2, ps5, Xbox sx, ps3 (partially broken), ps2, wii, psp, vita, ps1 classic, genesis/tg16 and snes mini consoles... I'm stacked 1500 games deep in backlog going back to my youth in the 1980s.
I can wait. Wait for a more affordable console, a crash so prices go back down and not only thr rich can play.
We, my wife and I make 83k a year before taxes. With prices of everything else $700 plus console is a no go. It's sad as I have had consoles since the intellivision /Atari 2600 and apple iic.
PS5 has had many great 3rd party games but 1st party has been shit outside of astrobot and gt7(although that's on ps4 as well). Then the woke and gaas incursion and happens. F no I can wait.
I own a pc, switch 1 and 2, ps5, Xbox sx, ps3 (partially broken), ps2, wii, psp, vita, ps1 classic, genesis/tg16 and snes mini consoles... I'm stacked 1500 games deep in backlog going back to my youth in the 1980s.
I can wait. Wait for a more affordable console, a crash so prices go back down and not only thr rich can play.
We, my wife and I make 83k a year before taxes. With prices of everything else $700 plus console is a no go. It's sad as I have had consoles since the intellivision /Atari 2600 and apple iic.
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Shadowstar39
Member
Well they should think about that before making it so only the wealthy can afford it. 500 or no deal. That was already a lot. Sorry as an adult I have other hobbies and bills. I could swing it but who knows how the economy will go. I was laid off for 3 months. I no longer work in it... Thanks Ai grrrrrrr.... I had to get a job in a field I have never done and who knows what the future holds. I know many others in similar predicaments. Buying ps6 for near a grand is no go. Shit and for me I don't even own a 4k TV. 1080p is fine on my pc and my ps5/switch2.
If it is expensive they need to subsidize it by eating thr cost like with ps3.
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Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
I wasn't defending them. A $900 system is retarded. Personally, I think this is Sony's way of paving the way for their hybrid system.
Durin
Member
You talk about logic, but then you gate the comparison to some bulky case that isn't even remotely needed. We don't exist in the days of HDDs being the only storage, or needing CD drives.
Unless you are buying top-end components you plan to run hard with needed cooling, a mid-tier to budget setup can fit in a mini-itx case the size of a launch PS5. Going bigger is just for looks and more ports on the board.
If memory pricing resets, the price difference used to be a few hundred, the people who attach more got a bad deal or are getting something with better specs than a console. Ease of use is gonna matter more for a console purchase, or in the case of Nintendo exclusive games they make.
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SoloCamo
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Also what people seem to never take into is parts reusability on the pc. In the past 15 years I've only had two pc cases, and the newer one is simply because I wanted it for more airflow (old case was still great in that regard, just not quite as good). Storage can be reused... same with PSU's assuming you don't buy junk in the first place. A mobo/cpu/mem combo can easily last multiple gpu upgrades if you don't go for bottom barrel in the first place. And again.. the price of games on PC alone make them more cost effective long term and the fact that they are ALWAYS backwards compatible so my library just grows.
Even my setup (cpu/mem/mobo circa 2021) paired with a RX9070 isn't going to have a problem riding through the next gen consoles if I wanted it to.
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Durin
Member
Yeah, PCI 3.0 alone was something fast enough to run newer GPUs until the RTX 4000 series. I just re-purposed my old 2019 PC components into a NAS, so I could have remote storage, and only really needed to buy some new HDDs, and the intel 9700k CPU in there is still better than Crimson Desert's minimum requirements.
The lack of a sub to play games online and cheaper games is a benefit too, but people think more in terms of upfront cost.
SoloCamo
Member
Oddly enough 3.0 16x still gets you 95+% of the performance of 5.0 on a 5090. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-pci-express-scaling/29.html
Even a 12 year old cpu like a 4790k is still usable in a lot of new titles, just don't expect miracles out of it. That said, as you noted people typically look at up front costs but I argue that over the course of a five year window PC's are absolutely cheaper especially when you can repurpose them for non gaming uses.
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RickMasters
Member
Nah. You never by the first batch of new electronic devices. They are always the faulty ones. I usually wait about six months and see if people have been having issues.then I upgrade.
But for sure I will be wanting to upgrade my series X to Helix sooner rather later.
But for sure I will be wanting to upgrade my series X to Helix sooner rather later.
Durin
Member
Yep, 3.0 is still good enough, but I know people like to get the most value out of whatever new thing they buy. It's not a huge handicap, especially for budget gpus that most people have.
I do think as hardware generational improvement stagnates, you're gonna see PC purchases last longer for people before getting locked out of games. At this point, I'd just throw an old PC in the living room as local multiplayer box for indie titles/emulation vs the meh amount you'll get selling it. Once the next Steam controller comes out, even PC games that have annoying launchers that controller with the touchpads can handle in the living room.
Chittagong
Gold Member
I have never been less interested in a new generation. Insane prices, negligible performance leap, cross gen for a decade, PS5 Pro is only just starting to deliver.
Knightime_X
Member
Nah, I'd rather spend like idk 1,500 for a gpu and get better than ps6 pro performance right off the bat. That alone saves me like $500-700 immediately.
I can just skip pro anything entirely.
Typically I'd be down to say yes but not with these prices.
Saving up for a 6080 as we speak or maybe an RX 10080 XT or whatever their next card is.
I can just skip pro anything entirely.
Typically I'd be down to say yes but not with these prices.
Saving up for a 6080 as we speak or maybe an RX 10080 XT or whatever their next card is.
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schaft0620
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I love video games, no way