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Tom warren gets upset at geoff keighley cause keighley called 'project helix' a PC-based Xbox hardware device.
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HeisenbergFX4
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Day one period when they only release a console version
So could be earlier than Novermber 2027 if the helix comes out sooner. You think Helix will launch in November 2026?
Hyper_hyper
Member
He had to be so fuckin confused to say something like that. LOL
hououinkyouma00
Gold Member
"Upset" is not really the word I would use here.
willothedog
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I can run PC games on my phone via Gamehub, it is still a phone.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
No idea on launch lets just say IF this machine launches before GTA 6 has a PC version out
ByWatterson
Member
This is like watching two of the lamest people you know argue over whether or not Die Hard is a Christmas movie.
MisterXDTV
Member
No you can't:
Try to run Steam software natively on your phone and see what happens....
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Karma_Games
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"Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss." - Pete Townshend (1971)
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
What if my phone can run PC games
lastmessiah
Member
Any modern console is literally just a PC with an encrypted bootloader. People need to get over it already.
It's a console when it runs console games, and it's a PC when it runs PC games...?? It sounds just as ridiculous as "is it a PC or a console?" and you realize how pointless this debate is.
It's simply hardware or a physical platform that gives you access to games. Whether or not it's the right platform for a particular offering depends on each individual's needs.
The debate is basically what one sector has decided to use as a rallying cry to discredit the offering, when the evaluation of that same offering should focus on other, more important aspects (features, quality of materials and design, power-price, limitations or level of walled gardening, subscription requirements, catalog, etc.).
We don't even know to what extent it has more console or PC features. And the funny thing is, its potential users probably couldn't care less what it's called and more what it actually offers and in what conditions.
Imagine it runs on Windows and still delivers a console-like experience: easy access to games, console-like build quality, innovative features typical of consoles, and (most importantly) a more than satisfactory gaming experience that rivals any traditional console....... Or even that Studios and publishers give it console treatment (TakeTwo for example)
What's the point of this discussion then?
What magical phone runs PC software?
MisterXDTV
Member
Not even iPads can run Mac software and those are done by the same fucking company....
Let alone Android/Windows
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Seriously! Two grown men have a conversation about new video game hardware, yet the internet tries to turn into "DRAMA!!!!"
MisterXDTV
Member
chilichote
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The real question is: will "Helix" also get Xbox versions of current and upcoming games? Frankly, I can't imagine it. Who would want to incur that additional expense when the PC version runs just fine on the same machine?
So, the question of whether "Helix" is a console or a PC is essentially moot, because virtually any PC can emulate console games, especially those from the previous generation. Microsoft will simply ensure that this emulator meets the requirements of publishers and developers.
Therefore, I simply maintain that "Helix" is a PC.
So, the question of whether "Helix" is a console or a PC is essentially moot, because virtually any PC can emulate console games, especially those from the previous generation. Microsoft will simply ensure that this emulator meets the requirements of publishers and developers.
Therefore, I simply maintain that "Helix" is a PC.
lughnasadh123
Member
Right now I just want to know if we're getting next gen Xbox versions of games or will just PC versions.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
This is already starting off like the Phil Spencer era or during that particular time where they just said a bunch of shit hoping it sticks. They haven't learned the damn thing and you can make good hardware that is powerful, everybody else does. They are messaging and whoever is in charge of anything at Microsoft just sucks. At least the peons that they put as the face of the messaging.
Again, a lot of us who love the console and PC hardware business are interested in anything. But you have to have some competency behind it and Microsoft strategy with gaming and PC has been and continues to be all over the place.
Again, a lot of us who love the console and PC hardware business are interested in anything. But you have to have some competency behind it and Microsoft strategy with gaming and PC has been and continues to be all over the place.
Humdinger
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It's just the project name -- like "Project Scorpio" before the Xbox One X came out. Don't worry, they still have time to call it something confusing.
The logos do look a little alike.
Schrodinger's console.
Disciple of MSSP
Gold Member
Sorry, Geoff. But I can never give you credit after miking Highguard the last game of the game awards.
bender
What time is it?
Post in thread 'In the event that PS5 Pro does release in 2024 but there is no new Xbox Series console because there is already Series S & X' https://www.neogaf.com/threads/in-t...-is-already-series-s-x.1654173/post-268897761
Hint That "fight" would be like cardboard standee of Ronda Rousey going up against prime Mike Tyson.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I wouldn't be so sure of that because this will be a long fight & MS is already playing dirty with deals with AMD so at some point kids getting new laptops \ PCs & devices will be greeted with Xbox & have no idea what Steam is .
bender
What time is it?
I've never been as certain of anything in my life. The only way Microsoft could compete against Steam is if Gabe decides to sell Valve.
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one of them will be a console
Chittagong
Gold Member
This is the dumbest fucking argument of console wars so far, good lord
Steam know what they're up against that's why we now have the Steamcube
bender
What time is it?
Proelite
Member
He thinks playing Xbox games is playing Xbox anywhere games fyi.
Imo if the device is optimized for controller and TV display it's a console.
So yes, I think the Steambox is a console.
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Gabe isn't foolish enough to underestimate Microsoft even if they messed up over & over again on PC.
bender
What time is it?
Valve has tinkered with hardware for a while and Deck/GameCube is more about Linux being an alternative to Windows for gaming should Microsoft's OS footprint start to faulter. Microsoft is not a threat to Steam.
StereoVsn
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Wolzard
Member
In my opinion, I think it's a console that runs PC games.
It's not a PC, because I think the OS will be very limited, without the possibility of doing everything you can do on a PC, with a locked bootloader. Imagine people using hacks, mods, emulation, etc., I don't think they'll allow that.
Steam Machine, on the other hand, is a PC, and you can use it however you like, including removing SteamOS.
Technically speaking, the current Xbox is already like that. The Windows VM is used to run apps like browsers, Spotify, etc.
What's changing is that now we'll have apps from companies like Epic and Steam.
It's not a PC, because I think the OS will be very limited, without the possibility of doing everything you can do on a PC, with a locked bootloader. Imagine people using hacks, mods, emulation, etc., I don't think they'll allow that.
Steam Machine, on the other hand, is a PC, and you can use it however you like, including removing SteamOS.
Technically speaking, the current Xbox is already like that. The Windows VM is used to run apps like browsers, Spotify, etc.
What's changing is that now we'll have apps from companies like Epic and Steam.
Embearded
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People do need to get over it but i don't believe that is true.
Horseganador
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Geoff making it clear to Warren's shill what the new MS system is.
Guardian Monkey
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Dude looks confused why he is talking to people instead of AI agents.
lastmessiah
Member
To be frank, if you "don't believe that is true" you simply don't know what you're talking about. This isn't a theological debate.
spookyfish
Gold Member
"Next year, man! Next YEAR!! You'll SEE!"
FIREKNIGHT2029
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I'm Team Geoff on this one