Hudo
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Exactly what I meant. It's a nice little curiosity to have as a side-thing for your game. But it's nothing that can sustain a full game on its own. I also agree that this was most likely not Ryan's doing but rather Druckmann's.
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Naughty Dog is laying off contract developers, asking them to keep it quiet. TLOU Online "is basically on ice at this point"
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fart town usa
Gold Member
Game pass effect.
nowhat
Member
So
Men_in_Boxes
how's that GaaS future looking?
Men_in_Boxes
how's that GaaS future looking?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
A Kotaku article always has the juicy title for clicks. Maybe i could've written what kind of contract developers they were tbh.
I hadn't thought about the fact that if TLOU3 had started full production right after TLOU2 came out we would have it next year probably.
analog_future
Banned
So much wasted time and effort and money. Hopefully TLOU online development doesn't push back their next single player game too far.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Goddamn, Bungie came in like hedge clippers.
ProtoByte
Member
"What does Sony have besides the direct sequel to a 20 million seller?"
I'm sorry, are other manufacturers releasing 3-4 AAA titles in the holiday season? Is that even realistic?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Is this sarcasm? You mean besides the biggest videogame Sony has ever released? No...they have nothing for this fall, lmao.
Sony spent most of the PS4 era without a single fall release. Both Uncharted games, the first Spider-Man, both Horizons, Days Gone, TLOU2, Ghost of Tsushima, etc...none of them came out during the fall. Even most PS5 games haven't released during the fall except for the day one games. Returnal, ratchet, Gran Turismo 7, etc...nothing was released duing those months.
If anything, Ragnarok and Spider-Man 2 are exceptions.
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ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
There are rumors that Half Life Alyx is coming this holiday for PSVR2.
elcapitano
Member
THey should have just released TLOU online. Who cares what BUngie thinks about it. Not evert game needs to or can maintain a player base forever.
Slothbeing1209
Member
Just release it as multiplayer mode...
Horseganador
Member
"""Full-time staff do not appear to have been part of the cuts. Naughty Dog’s headcount was over 400 as of July"""
"""the majority of those laid off worked in quality assurance testing. The sources said at least 25 developers were part of the downsizing"""
No one from the main team fired, only 25 and most of them in QA, Neogaf summary = disaster in ND.
"""the majority of those laid off worked in quality assurance testing. The sources said at least 25 developers were part of the downsizing"""
No one from the main team fired, only 25 and most of them in QA, Neogaf summary = disaster in ND.
Fabieter
Member
While it sucks that they can't get their mp game together. They always had a mp team for over a decade. I just wish they would release it already no matter what bungie is telling them.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Another nothingburger. Contract QA are there to bolster full-time staff in the push pre-release. If the release gets pushed back for re-tooling then it makes sense to let them go and re-hire when the situation changes.
Also, low-level staff like that will not be particularly well informed about strategic plans, so frankly "on ice" could mean literally anything in between a short-term pushback or transfer to another group, or full-on cancellation. Although the latter seems unlikely given that would probably result in a lot more redundancies.
Also, low-level staff like that will not be particularly well informed about strategic plans, so frankly "on ice" could mean literally anything in between a short-term pushback or transfer to another group, or full-on cancellation. Although the latter seems unlikely given that would probably result in a lot more redundancies.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
what a waste of time. Any interest I had in TLOU factions has basically gone. WTF have we got? some concept art in 3 years, scandalous.
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Ar¢tos
Member
I hope not...
TLOU 1 was about saving the world.
TLOU 2 was a downgrade to a revenge story.
What would TLOU 3 be about? Ellie breaking a nail?
I hope it's a new IP.
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Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
It was super fun, but they needed to really release this close to TLOU part 2. Maybe it will still be successful but it sounds like it’s not having a great development and the silence is deafening.
nowhat
Member
Actually it had a quite dedicated following, at least for some time. The problem (at least for me, not that invested in multiplayer, or at all) was that by the time the PS4 remaster was released (never had a PS3 so that's when I first played it) it was filled with veterans, so I was just easy prey. Was looking forward to this, might have been a better experience. Oh well.
drotahorror
Member
People just wanted Factions with better graphics and more shit. How hard was that?
Salz01
Member
Yes, I still play it with my friends weekly. Has a healthy community we always find games pretty fast.
Wastelander92
Member
Hopefully this convinces Sony to turn away from Gaas and go back to focusing on SP games.
midnightAI
Member
Contractors get severance pay? since when? (I know under certain circumstances it can happen but its not the norm)
Even if this is true, they seem to be making it out as ND are worse than they are, for the clicks I guess
Even if this is true, they seem to be making it out as ND are worse than they are, for the clicks I guess
balls of snow
Member
Jim Ryan's legacy right there.
MiguelItUp
Member
People love the attention. I was at a studio that was slowly sinking once, and the higher ups were still doing their best to keep everything together. They asked if they needed anything they were there for them, and to please keep this to themselves because everything could work out just find thanks to potential investors, etc. Someone went and babbled to Game Informer which put the studio in an even worse position. I hate people.
This sounds rough though, I guess Factions is something that will come in due time... maybe.
nowhat
Member
Roni
Gold Member
Balls don't count for much come an earnings call...
nowhat
Member
Ehh, so far SIE seems to be doing alright. After Niche-Man 2 I doubt the situation will be different.
As it should be. Screw the shitty ex bosses
Fabieter
Member
We had reports saying that people at bungie were reviewing the game and it was alright but they doubted long time engagement and monetization possibility. I guess they couldn't change the game for them to rip people off like other gaas devs doing.
This sucks, I hope the people affected land on their feet asap
I kept saying this project we probably canceled after those reports we got,
vivftp
insisted on listing it in his list wars for why Sony had announced enough projects and people getting concerned about their output were being unreasonable
I kept saying this project we probably canceled after those reports we got,
vivftp
insisted on listing it in his list wars for why Sony had announced enough projects and people getting concerned about their output were being unreasonable
Flutta
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Mibu no ookami
Member
Super vague and potentially misleading article
What it sounds like to me is that they've delayed the game and since the game isn't coming out right away, it doesn't make sense to keep QA on the books for its release.
Likely they've pushed the release of the game to next summer or next fall and since these were contractors they're easy to let go and bring back or hire new contractors when they're ready for a QA push, mostly in line with them returning to efforts of the game.
"Put on ice" has too ominous of a connotation associated with it. Is the game canceled? Is it being put on hiatus? Is it getting limited development resources at the moment?
There seems to be a group of trolls, anti sony fanboys, anti gaas trolls (and I don't like gaas), and anti druckman/naughty dog trolls who want to make a mountain out of this, without knowing any real details
What it sounds like to me is that they've delayed the game and since the game isn't coming out right away, it doesn't make sense to keep QA on the books for its release.
Likely they've pushed the release of the game to next summer or next fall and since these were contractors they're easy to let go and bring back or hire new contractors when they're ready for a QA push, mostly in line with them returning to efforts of the game.
"Put on ice" has too ominous of a connotation associated with it. Is the game canceled? Is it being put on hiatus? Is it getting limited development resources at the moment?
There seems to be a group of trolls, anti sony fanboys, anti gaas trolls (and I don't like gaas), and anti druckman/naughty dog trolls who want to make a mountain out of this, without knowing any real details
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