Support NeoGAF

[Hendrick's]

His actual comments really aren't that bad lol. I just legitimately don't even know why my post would be funny. It's actually pretty boring. Large launch for a game helped a large month for GP. Pretty logical and uncontroversial ...

Is it funny that I liked the game? I did.

Easy way to pad your likes. Just say anything remotely positive about Xbox and you win.

 

[NonPhixion]

I remember Don Mattrick and Phil Spencer, on the same E3 2013 stage, peddling the same shit. One got fired and one got to save face. Ahh the good ol’ days.

 

[Punished Miku]

Easy way to pad your likes. Just say anything remotely positive about Xbox and you win.

True, it doesn't get to me usually but I just couldn't even comprehend how that particular comment of mine is even interesting, let alone funny lol. Oh well.

I think I just felt embarrassment for being on here when new members show up and people are acting this retarded. I would actually like to somewhat intelligently discuss games on here sometime. Throw in some jokes and shitposts, but don't totally make the place intolerable.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

And stuff like this is exactly why the Xbox brand will continue to limp along like a mediocre football player, the kind who's just there to fill out the team roster and little more. There are TOO. MANY. ENABLERS. Towards the brand's shortcomings. When those include big content creators and known games journalists, you create an atmosphere of being surrounded by enablers who don't really want you to do what's best for you, or to get better...they just want you to like them, so that they can benefit off whatever it is you have.

Guys like Ryan are acting like the relative who sneaks McDonald's to an obese family member trying to go on a diet to get weight loss surgery. They're like the "friend" who keeps sneaking little cases of beer to someone in a detox program for alcoholism. If Xbox have any official affiliation with these types, they need to cut them off, because they are slowly killing the brand with insincere kindness.

There's no way on Earth Don Mattrick, who was fired in 2014, is responsible for Xbox's woes in 2023, almost a full nine years later. No, Xbox's current issues are on Phil Spencer's watch; his gamble of Game Pass isn't quite the revenue boon he pitched it to be. All 1P Day 1 on PC is now having a noticeable effect on console hardware demand (Phil probably didn't initiate that policy but he could've pushed to scale back on it, now that he's been in charge of Xbox directly since 2017). If some of the decisions that have come about for the brand weren't from him, then he could've argued and pushed in favor of other ideas, if he actually wanted to.

People like Ryan need their corporate access privileges so of course they aren't going to direct criticism to where or whom it should obviously be directed towards. But that just ruins what remaining journalistic credibility they have left. If they want to do that, let them. Because if they keep enabling some of these decisions, they're eventually going to reach a breaking point themselves and realize where they should have been directing criticism to the whole time. But by then, it'll be too late.

 

[Benniewise de Clown]

I thought Phil turned things around mid last-gen.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

And stuff like this is exactly why the Xbox brand will continue to limp along like a mediocre football player, the kind who's just there to fill out the team roster and little more. There are TOO. MANY. ENABLERS. Towards the brand's shortcomings. When those include big content creators and known games journalists, you create an atmosphere of being surrounded by enablers who don't really want you to do what's best for you, or to get better...they just want you to like them, so that they can benefit off whatever it is you have.

Guys like Ryan are acting like the family member who sneaks McDonald's to an obese family member trying to go on a diet to get weight loss surgery. They're like the "friend" who keeps sneaking little cases of beer to someone in a detox program for alcoholism. If Xbox have any official affiliation with these types, they need to cut them off, because they are slowly killing the brand with insincere kindness.

There's no way on Earth Don Mattrick, who was fired in 2014, is responsible for Xbox's woes in 2023, almost a full nine years later. No, Xbox's current issues are on Phil Spencer's watch; his gamble of Game Pass isn't quite the revenue boon he pitched it to be. All 1P Day 1 on PC is now having a noticeable effect on console hardware demand (Phil probably didn't initiate that policy but he could've pushed to scale back on it, now that he's been in charge of Xbox directly since 2017). If some of the decisions that have come about for the brand weren't from him, then he could've argued and pushed in favor of other ideas, if he actually wanted to.

Guys like Ryan need their corporate access privileges so of course they aren't going to direct criticism to where or whom it should obviously be directed towards. But that just ruins what remaining journalistic credibility they have left. If they want to do that, let them. Because if they keep enabling some of these decisions, they're eventually going to reach a breaking point themselves and realize where they should have been directing criticism to the whole time. But by then, it'll be too late.

It was a joke.

Obviously MS needed to step up and prevent Rick and Morty guy from being a pervert, they should invade Russia and stop the war, and whatever the other thing on the list was, people are clearly letting MS off the hook on.

 

[geary]

You guys are obsessed with Phil Spencer. He lives rent free in your head. There's less and less discussion on games and more and more on the life of Phil and Jim....

 

[Benniewise de Clown]

You guys are obsessed with Phil Spencer. He lives rent free in your head. There's less and less discussion on games and more and more on the life of Phil and Jim....

What else is there to talk about for Xbox?

There barely has been anything released that's worthwhile under Spencer.

 

[The Tourmaline Gorilla]

That's just a bizarre tweet all around.

It's obvious Ryan is joking, in regards to "The curse of Don Mattrick". It's wrote that way to encourage engagement.

And nowhere, in that Tweet, was he talking about the state of Xbox's games or game output. He's simply trying to engage conversation around the premise that "Xbox can't catch a break", due to the series of unfortunate events plaguing it over the past several months, most of which have nothing to do with the game output.

How this became a thread here, is beyond me. Worse yet, most of the people who are responding haven't read the Tweet (if they did, they'd obviously know this isn't about game output), or understand Ryan's talking points, in jest. They just saw a thread title, assumed it's about the game output, and because they have an opinion that they think the world should hear/read, start typing what they've been thinking for at least a few years. Smfh

Admin should really implement a thread voting system. Enough thumbs down, and your thread disappears into oblivion. This is a silly thread.

 

[onQ123]

Xbox haven't had a 10 million plus selling game since Don left

Kinect Adventures was the last big hit created by Xbox other than that they just buy out companies after they make hits.

 

[NickFire]

You guys are obsessed with Phil Spencer. He lives rent free in your head. There's less and less discussion on games and more and more on the life of Phil and Jim....

You should throw these chaps a bone and tell them what games they should be discussing. Preferably ones that came out in the last 18 months.

 

[geary]

What else is there to talk about for Xbox?

There barely has been anything released that's worthwhile under Spencer.

there's no need to talk about Spencer or Ryan. You can talk, you know...about the other 99% of games in the industry which are not Sony or MS published.
There are barely any topics about games and when they are, they are burred under the nth topic of a random twitter of a random guy.

 

[Damian black]

Don had a better launch lineup than spencer lol.
Plus Quantum break and sunset overdrive were pretty nice games. Xbox one had better games in its first 3 years than seriesXS will probably have.

 

[Dick Jones]

It's obvious Ryan is joking, in regards to "The curse of Don Mattrick". It's wrote that way to encourage engagement.

And nowhere, in that Tweet, was he talking about the state of Xbox's games or game output. He's simply trying to engage conversation around the premise that "Xbox can't catch a break", due to the series of unfortunate events plaguing it over the past several months, most of which have nothing to do with the game output.

How this became a thread here, is beyond me. Worse yet, most of the people who are responding haven't read the Tweet (if they did, they'd obviously know this isn't about game output), or understand Ryan's talking points, in jest. They just saw a thread title, assumed it's about the game output, and because they have an opinion that they think the world should hear/read, start typing what they've been thinking for at least a few years. Smfh

Admin should really implement a thread voting system. Enough thumbs down, and your thread disappears into oblivion. This is a silly thread.

He was also on about Xbox losing Bungie in what 2008? What break couldnt they catch there? There is more seriousness in his tweet than you give him credit for.

 

[Benniewise de Clown]

there's no need to talk about Spencer or Ryan. You can talk, you know...about the other 99% of games in the industry which are not Sony or MS published.
There are barely any topics about games and when they are, they are burred under the nth topic of a random twitter of a random guy.

You can also scroll past Spencer/Ryan threads.

They're the heads of MS/Sony and are relevant to gaming-discussions.
Especially since they're responsible for both companies success/shortcomings.

 

[Ozriel]

Phil Spencer keeps getting away? Wow

You’re blaming Phil Spencer for the Ukraine war, Bungie leaving, JR’s domestic violence and regulators playing tough with a mega acquisition?

It was a weird tweet. Didn’t have to become a weird thread.

 

[Topher]

It's obvious Ryan is joking, in regards to "The curse of Don Mattrick". It's wrote that way to encourage engagement.

And nowhere, in that Tweet, was he talking about the state of Xbox's games or game output. He's simply trying to engage conversation around the premise that "Xbox can't catch a break", due to the series of unfortunate events plaguing it over the past several months, most of which have nothing to do with the game output.

How this became a thread here, is beyond me. Worse yet, most of the people who are responding haven't read the Tweet (if they did, they'd obviously know this isn't about game output), or understand Ryan's talking points, in jest. They just saw a thread title, assumed it's about the game output, and because they have an opinion that they think the world should hear/read, start typing what they've been thinking for at least a few years. Smfh

Admin should really implement a thread voting system. Enough thumbs down, and your thread disappears into oblivion. This is a silly thread.

Sure he is joking about the "curse" but it is still bizarre. And obviously he is reaching beyond the "past several months" with references to Bungie. I didn't say his tweet said anything about "game output" either. I just said it was bizarre and it is because it just is. Of course.....he is on twitter so I guess being bizarre is just a requirement.

Why are you making a big deal about this being a thread though? If McCaffrey can "simply try to engage conversation" then so can anyone here.

Either way, to hell with thread voting systems. That would be a disaster. If you don't like a thread, report and/or ignore it.

 

[Punished Miku]

It's obvious Ryan is joking, in regards to "The curse of Don Mattrick". It's wrote that way to encourage engagement.

And nowhere, in that Tweet, was he talking about the state of Xbox's games or game output. He's simply trying to engage conversation around the premise that "Xbox can't catch a break", due to the series of unfortunate events plaguing it over the past several months, most of which have nothing to do with the game output.

How this became a thread here, is beyond me. Worse yet, most of the people who are responding haven't read the Tweet (if they did, they'd obviously know this isn't about game output), or understand Ryan's talking points, in jest. They just saw a thread title, assumed it's about the game output, and because they have an opinion that they think the world should hear/read, start typing what they've been thinking for at least a few years. Smfh

Admin should really implement a thread voting system. Enough thumbs down, and your thread disappears into oblivion. This is a silly thread.

Wow. Sane discussion

 

[oldergamer]

Mattrick is only responsible for fucking up the transition between 360 & Xbone. he also was pushing kinect, and dropped a lot of the deals they had with activision, and others.

So technically he is connected to xbox being locked out of certain deals made at the start of the xbone gen, but since he was fired the rest falls to Spencer. Technically nothing really changed until Ballmer was out as CEO

man, when I think about how many development studios and companies MS worked with that were bought out from under them, I can see why they went into purchase mode

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

I remember listening to the Major Nelson podcast immediately after the announcement of the Xbox One drm, but before they backpedaled. The podcast host doubled down on the new policy saying that it would be where the industry was going and to look at the new system in the long term. He wasn’t wrong. Those that are digital only on the Xbox and PS5 have easily adopted the plans that Mattrick came up with for the launch of the Xbox One.

Then is history repeating itself with MS's focus on Game Pass? Maybe, by some measure, subscription gaming IS the future to game distribution. But it's clear to see that, right now, there's an obvious cap to how much that helps a platform leading with a subscription service as its key selling point.

And I think MS have sensed that maybe they were repeating a mistake in that regard, which is why we've seen the "Game Pass is stagnating on console" and focusing on PC Game Pass growth statements. Those things can both be factually true and also convenient for shifting their focus going forward away from Game Pass and towards what the market seems to more clearly resonate with, which is pretty much what Sony & Nintendo are focusing on the whole time and what Sony focused on with the PS4.

It's just that if there has been a shift internally, they've been a lot more muted with it versus the hard pivot they made with XBO DRM & other policies, which was probably for the best. The way they're doing it with Game Pass (if they're doing it) doesn't exude the panic the reversals/pivot last gen did. I'm not even saying Game Pass is a bad service, but maybe Microsoft tried pushing for subscription as the future, a bit too soon, and I think some of these recent market results are evidence of it.

Particularly the drop in software revenue, because to me that's showing a lot of Xbox owners are just buying less 3P games, at least Day 1, and maybe what games they would have bought, they don't need to because they're on Game Pass. If MS get their 1P rolling well that will help with software revenue but it's going to be suppressed due to their 1P games being Day 1 in Game Pass. Even if it weren't, 1P sales don't account for a huge majority of software revenue for Xbox, not even for PlayStation honestly (in their best year so far, 1P was "just" 18.5% of total software sales revenue). For them that mostly comes from 3P sales revenue; Nintendo are more of the exception there.

 

[demigod]

And stuff like this is exactly why the Xbox brand will continue to limp along like a mediocre football player, the kind who's just there to fill out the team roster and little more. There are TOO. MANY. ENABLERS. Towards the brand's shortcomings. When those include big content creators and known games journalists, you create an atmosphere of being surrounded by enablers who don't really want you to do what's best for you, or to get better...they just want you to like them, so that they can benefit off whatever it is you have.

Guys like Ryan are acting like the relative who sneaks McDonald's to an obese family member trying to go on a diet to get weight loss surgery. They're like the "friend" who keeps sneaking little cases of beer to someone in a detox program for alcoholism. If Xbox have any official affiliation with these types, they need to cut them off, because they are slowly killing the brand with insincere kindness.

There's no way on Earth Don Mattrick, who was fired in 2014, is responsible for Xbox's woes in 2023, almost a full nine years later. No, Xbox's current issues are on Phil Spencer's watch; his gamble of Game Pass isn't quite the revenue boon he pitched it to be. All 1P Day 1 on PC is now having a noticeable effect on console hardware demand (Phil probably didn't initiate that policy but he could've pushed to scale back on it, now that he's been in charge of Xbox directly since 2017). If some of the decisions that have come about for the brand weren't from him, then he could've argued and pushed in favor of other ideas, if he actually wanted to.

People like Ryan need their corporate access privileges so of course they aren't going to direct criticism to where or whom it should obviously be directed towards. But that just ruins what remaining journalistic credibility they have left. If they want to do that, let them. Because if they keep enabling some of these decisions, they're eventually going to reach a breaking point themselves and realize where they should have been directing criticism to the whole time. But by then, it'll be too late.

Hey, stop making sense.

 

[64bitmodels]

No budget yet they were able to buy mojang, gears ip. With that money they could've bought/made over 10 insomniac studios.

i don't see how you're trying to steer that as a negative when Mojang owns the biggest and best selling video game of all time....
i like insomniac dont get me wrong but if i had to choose between Spiderman and Minecraft.... well the choice is damn near obvious to anyone looking to make cash

 

[digoutyoursoul]

I’m think he was on Kinda Funny a couple of years ago and snapped he was tired of Halo, Gears and Forza.

 

[PJX]

sure blame Mattrick from what a decade ago. Phil has had more then enough time to right the ship but hasn't instead he does bullshit anti-consumer stuff like buying out competition with money instead of fostering their own games.

He has done something right though, he made a cult and a bunch of loyalists and fanboys who defend his every move.

Don Mattrick was bad for MS but Phil is part of that back then and has had more then enough time to make good.

They are the worst.

 

[Bragr]

It's a tweet.

Sometimes you type something and it's not quite the way you intended to say it.

The problem here is not the Tweet, but you guys reading all sorts of shit into it.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Hey, stop making sense.

Do you remember his exchange with Microsofts Shannon Loftis over the Super Luckys Tale review?

 

[kirby007]

why are we trashing kinect? as if it isn't the setup for VR/AR, it was here just to early, kinda like the psp

 

[Elginer]

I skipped Xbox One, but purchased Series X this Christmas even if I have PS5 since day one. And now I play a lot more in series X than PS5. They are doing something well but it seems not as evident as Sony.

Same for me, I play more on
My series X and S in my office then then PS5. It’s becoming more and more a system for exclusives for me at least.

 

[Topher]

why are we trashing kinect? as if it isn't the setup for VR/AR, it was here just to early, kinda like the psp

Kinect was fine. Forcing Xbox gamers to buy Kinect along with Xbox One was stupid. A mistake Phil Spencer fixed.

 

[Bragr]

What a dumb, clickbait thread title. Anyone that knows how to read can see that Ryan doesn't actually believe that Don Mattrick has hexed or put a curse on the Xbox brand, for fucks sake lol. He's making a (pretty lame) joke.

I don't know what's going on here, I can't believe people are discussing this as a serious statement.

He obviously doesn't mean it's Matricks fault.

And now people are dragging up his old tweets.

 

[Kacho]

Do you remember his exchange with Microsofts Shannon Loftis over the Super Luckys Tale review?

Haha yeah she was something else. She moved to the Age of Empires team sometime after that.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

I don't know what's going on here, I can't believe people are discussing this as a serious statement.

He obviously doesn't mean it's Matricks fault.

And now people are dragging up his old tweets.

Then Why was he arrested last week at a bar for pissing in shot glasses and screaming “Fuck you Mattrick “ at fellow drinkers?

 

[anthony2690]

Reminds me of this:



Well you can rest easy now that Xbox will have a Kojima game.

Ryan is an idiot, to comment stuff like this imo.
I'm surprised people higher at companies even waste their time engaging if he is going to say dumb stuff to stir up drama/attention.


I quite like Yosp, he liked my tweet when I finished Ashen on Xbox, I assume he looked at past tweets and liked other tweets from other people that enjoyed the game after it landed on playstation and he played through it himself

I really enjoyed Ashen, going through this dungeon with some random dude who I couldn't communicate with was a pretty unique experience.

 

[Dick Jones]

Do you remember his exchange with Microsofts Shannon Loftis over the Super Luckys Tale review?

Is that fixed, making reviews without a licence to play that game?

I never saw that. I'll credit Ryan there, the other one. Maybe she should have DM'd that one.

 

[bender]

J Allard is the real culprit.

 

[Topher]

I don't know what's going on here, I can't believe people are discussing this as a serious statement.

He obviously doesn't mean it's Matricks fault.

And now people are dragging up his old tweets.

Because McCaffrey has a long history of saying bizarre things.

 

[Hendrick's]

What else is there to talk about for Xbox.

Oh, I don't know, maybe their big showcase event tonight?

 

[Topher]

Then Why was he arrested last week at a bar for pissing in shot glasses and screaming “Fuck you Mattrick “ at fellow drinkers?

Phil Spencer was there buying him shots. That bastard.

 

[diffusionx]

If you dont even know that theres no point to talk further.

You said the terms, you need to define it. I can’t read your mind. I explained why I don’t think Sony is “anti-consumer” as I understand it.

 

[Freeza93]

You said the terms, you need to define it. I can’t read your mind. I explained why I don’t think Sony is “anti-consumer” as I understand it.

Price hike Ps5
Terrible upgrade path from ps 4 to 5 version selling the upgrade for 10€ etc
Ps plus is terrible value
You have to pay extra for terrible backwards compatibility
Censoring games
Sony fought against crossplay possibilities
Refunds are terrible
Support is halfassed
VRR? Took 2 years yet its an open standard

I could go on.

 

[Demon2blades]

I feel like Sony turned it around in under 10 years in the ps3 gen to become the behemoth they are now so what's the problem at Microsoft ? .

 

[Topher]

I feel like Sony turned it around in under 10 years in the ps3 gen to become the behemoth they are now so what's the problem at Microsoft ? .

I think the biggest difference is there was very little doubt from the leadership at Sony that PlayStation would be around for a long time. Can't say the same for the leaders at Microsoft. Phil Spencer had to convince them Xbox was worth saving after the disastrous Xbox One launch. That in itself is one hell of a hole to find yourself in.

 

[Demon2blades]

Price hike Ps5
Terrible upgrade path from ps 4 to 5 version selling the upgrade for 10€ etc
Ps plus is terrible value
You have to pay extra for terrible backwards compatibility
Censoring games
Sony fought against crossplay possibilities
Refunds are terrible
Support is halfassed
VRR? Took 2 years yet its an open standard

I could go on.

Always remember it wasn't Sony that was against crossplay at first it was Microsoft and i find ps plus extra is great value for what you get for £10.99 pm ... You say you could go on yeah but obviously the masses just don't see it the way you do the ps5 is selling like gangbusters still .

 

[Bragr]

Because McCaffrey has a long history of saying bizarre things.

None of the tweets in this thread are bizarre.

And everyone who has been on the internet for some years has a history of bizarre tweets or posts.

Everybody misjudges their wording or gets angry once in a while and posts dumb stuff, it's completely normal.

 

[Freeza93]

Always remember it wasn't Sony that was against crossplay at first it was Microsoft and i find ps plus extra is great value for what you get for £10.99 pm ... You say you could go on yeah but obviously the masses just don't see it the way you do the ps5 is selling like gangbusters still .

People also buy Nvidia cards like crazy yet they spit on their customers, scammed them openly and what not. I never said it wouldnt sell. Dont fabricate.

 

[Demon2blades]

I think the biggest difference is there was very little doubt from the leadership at Sony that PlayStation would be around for a long time. Can't say the same for the leaders at Microsoft. Phil Spencer had to convince them Xbox was worth saving after the disastrous Xbox One launch. That in itself is one hell of a hole to find yourself in.

Still it's been 10 years since mattrick though people can't keep blaming him it's ridiculous.

 

[Hugare]

Ryan Mccafrey is the dumbest piece of shit on the industry

Not only for the 5.9 for Alien Isolation, but time and time again the dude just say ignorant shit

Stuff like "1080p is overrated, its not noticeable until you are like, 2 meters from your TV"

It's baffling that IGN havent sacked him for such a long time. Not only that, but gave him the position of "executive editor".

I also wanted to be rewarded for being so bad at my job

 

[Demon2blades]

People also buy Nvidia cards like crazy yet they spit on their customers, scammed them openly and what not. I never said it wouldnt sell. Dont fabricate.

Because they offer the best product just like Sony do with the playstation they must be doing something right .

 

[Syphon Filter]

Don has nothing do do with this right now, there was plenty of time already to clean that up.

 

[Freeza93]

Because they offer the best product just like Sony do with the playstation they must be doing something right .

Certainly, mind share. Because gen 8 was dominated by them. Consolewise the SX is objectively better at hardware level, os, noise, size. Features, efficiency, Its a mini pc edge browser works pretty well on it never thought i could say that about a console. On ps 5 i couldnt find the browser.