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[In Cold Blood]

The problem with these posts is that they forget it's not sony taking Ms to court.

It's Sony who is making the submissions and telling the regulators that the deal shouldn't go through.

 

[NonPhixion]

Duff Man Phil Spencer says a lot of things. Oh Yeah!

 

[DForce]

Most of the sony fans in this thread didn't bother to read the full quote. I dont know how anyone could deny the deals that prevented games from being on xbox an entire generation along with timed exclusive deals that also limit the appeal of xbox.

I still cant get street fighter 5 on xbox among other titles.

Sony fans under time exclusive deals.

Xbox fans such as yourself simply ignore the fact that Microsoft has ALSO made deals with third-party developers.

Phil on Street Fighter - "When we have a 1st party franchise in a genre I'd rather invest in ours"


That game was Killer Instinct.

Capcom was on the rocks and needed development backing, something that has been well-documented over the years.


Pretend that this didn't appear during every single Xbox event that prevented games from appearing on PlayStation. There are STILL games that are not on PlayStation due to exclusive deals.

 

[In Cold Blood]

Microsoft grabbed one of the biggest multiplayer games in PUBG for a 1-year time exclusive deal, which is bigger than any time exclusive deal Sony has made during the PS4 era. Microsoft has acquired Zenimax and didn't play nice by making Elder Scrolls and Starfield exclusive.

Now they're trying to acquire the biggest publisher out there by taking Call of Duty off PlayStation.

You guys are being delusional by thinking Microsoft has been playing nice.

Not sure if serious?
PUBG was not a AAA game. It had no console presence and was dead in the water at that stage. It was a stupid decision.
Every single Sony deal is minimum 12 months.
SF5 was for the whole Xbox One generation.
Gostwire and Deathloop were 12 months.
FF hasn't come out on Xbox yet.
Stray is 12 months.
Godfall 12 months
Forspoken is 2 fucking years.

You don't want to go comparing Sony's third party exclusives vs Xbox ones.
Trust me, it won't end well for your argument.

 

[Crayon]

I don’t.

My post has nothing to do with the FTC.

Yeah exactly.

trying to block the purchase of ABK in every possible way while the rest of the world doesn't give a damn.

Because of course, we know that if Sony had Microsoft's money, it would be a little sister of charity, with no anti-consumer or monopolistic practices, no.

Stuff like this makes it look you are anthropomorphizing the situation. You're focusing on Sony like they are the reason ms is in the hot seat.

 

[In Cold Blood]

Sony fans under time exclusive deals.

Xbox fans such as yourself simply ignore the fact that Microsoft has ALSO made deals with third-party developers.

Phil on Street Fighter - "When we have a 1st party franchise in a genre I'd rather invest in ours"


That game was Killer Instinct.

Capcom was on the rocks and needed development backing, something that has been well-documented over the years.


Pretend that this didn't appear during every single Xbox event that prevented games from appearing on PlayStation. There are STILL games that are not on PlayStation due to exclusive deals.

Jesus H Christ.
Killer Instinct is a Microsoft IP. It came over when they bought Rare a decade ago. Capcom had nothing to do with it?
I swear, some people.

 

[BoxFresh123]

jimbo got under his skin

This gif is fucking terrifying

 

[DForce]

Not sure if serious?
PUBG was not a AAA game. It had no console presence and was dead in the water at that stage. It was a stupid decision.
Every single Sony deal is minimum 12 months.
SF5 was for the whole Xbox One generation.
Gostwire and Deathloop were 12 months.
FF hasn't come out on Xbox yet.
Stray is 12 months.
Godfall 12 months
Forspoken is 2 fucking years.

You don't want to go comparing Sony's third party exclusives vs Xbox ones.
Trust me, it won't end well for your argument.

Stop the BS. PUBG wasn't dead in the water. It was one of the biggest games and sold millions of copies within the first few months on Xbox. That's Triple A status.

Dead Rising 3, Ryse, and Sunset Overdrive are 3rd party game deals and they were never released on PlayStation.

The Medium was nearly a year. Cuphead was even longer. There are MORE time-exclusive deals MS has made with third-party developers.

Jesus H Christ.
Killer Instinct is a Microsoft IP. It came over when they bought Rare a decade ago. Capcom had nothing to do with it?
I swear, some people.

The point flew over your head. Phil talked about the deal and said he would rather invest in theirs.

 

[Wooxsvan]

Expose them to cold water.

 

[Crayon]

It's Sony who is making the submissions and telling the regulators that the deal shouldn't go through.

I suppose Sony could have given their blessing and none of this would have happened. That's not very realistic though

Of course Sony would be the main detractor. Sony's part in this is that they are seemingly the biggest reason for these conspicuously large purchases. Ms spent a shit ton of money for games that were coming to them anyway, and even throw more money away cutting a
the ps releases. The deal already has to be reviewed thanks to being abnormally huge. They are reviewing for aspects that are anticompetitive and they found something and it wasn't hard.

 

[bentanchorbolt]

This out of context.

The quote is effectively that Sony only cares about the console space and since consoles are basically capped at 200M devices that Sony can only grow by reducing their competition versus expanding into new markets like mobile, cloud, subscription, other devices.

Which isn't untrue - but this whole thing has been a shit show for both these companies and it's been embarrassing all around.

Agreed. What Sony and MS have both told regulators is some silly bullshit and they should be embarrassed over it.

 

[Ozzie666]

Sick of this crap. Nintendo's success under pins everything he is trying to allege. Maybe, just maybe there is only room for 1 powerful system and 1 alternative like what Nintendo brings. The truth is 3rd place in this industry still seems profitable. I really don't care if the ABK deal goes through. Having the HD twins may have worked in the past, but Microsoft has really pushed gamepass and service gaming as its own blue ocean style strategy.

Phil, maybe it's time to admit, it's not working. Don't blame Sony for your own failures and releasing very few games. Don't blame Sony for your cheap ass console alternative. Don't blame Sony your delays.

Both sides play dirty, and both are greedy. Microsoft is basically calling Sony a bully, is pretty laughable. The same Sony who nearly a decade ago was selling assets to recover.

 

[Neolombax]

Every company does that to their competitors. Tell me something I dont know.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

I'm really keen to understand quite how Spencer thinks Sony is going to try to make Xbox smaller?... Like, by precisely what mechanism would or even could they achieve that?

...By sabotaging Xbox first-party development?

Xbox seems to be managing that perfectly without anyone's help.

 

[Rea]

You're the one Buying big multiplatform publishers and continues to say this kind of things. OMG. This is the most stupidest things I have ever heard.

 

[bender]

Rich coming from a Microsoft employee.

 

[Monad]

Yeah exactly.





Stuff like this makes it look you are anthropomorphizing the situation. You're focusing on Sony like they are the reason ms is in the hot seat.

Common sense tells me to pretend that Sony's position has no impact on the accusations of agencies like the FTC (apart from Lina Khan's political interests and personal aspirations) is, in fact, anthropomorphizing reality. Otherwise, there would be no argumentative resources to show if all the competition were in favor or with a neutral position regarding the purchase of ABK, especially when the FTC is not an expert in gaming industry by any means.

Be that as it may, I'm not trying to "camouflage" anything, the thread does not even allude to anything other than the hypocrisy and double standards of many, the rest is to believe what you want to believe.

 

[fallingdove]

Yes, and if they had we'd be having this discussion in regards to MS instead of Sony. But they didn't.... so we arent.

They could have easily outbid Sony but they took a different path. That path, so far, has failed to deliver.

Nothing more than console fanboy drivel

Lol. I am an SX owner and I’ve grown tired of waiting. If more were critical of MS mediocrity, perhaps we’d see some productivity from the studios they own. I was always concerned that Phil and team were going to have difficulty integrating so many disparate operations into a cohesive unit. We are 7 years into the rapid acquisition strategy and those that aren’t satisfied with niche indie games are still waiting for change.

 

[Monad]

You're the one Buying big multiplatform publishers and continues to say this kind of things. OMG. This is the most stupidest things I have ever heard.

Buying ≠ closing the deal.

 

[Monad]

Exactly this. MS is in a financial position in which they could throw a billion a month down the drain on Xbox and face zero financial consequences to the company.

On a purely economic level they can, for sure (they could also buy 2 trillion dollar worth of candies).

But as a listed company, they can't do whatever they want, they have to account and show results to their shareholders, including sustained growth in key divisions (which is what the Xbox division is intended to become) and for that they have to make big moves, like this.

 

[Goalus]

That's obvious.

 

[iHaunter]

Says the guy buying up every studio while still failing to release any decent game.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Sony fans under time exclusive deals.

Xbox fans such as yourself simply ignore the fact that Microsoft has ALSO made deals with third-party developers.

Phil on Street Fighter - "When we have a 1st party franchise in a genre I'd rather invest in ours"


That game was Killer Instinct.

Capcom was on the rocks and needed development backing, something that has been well-documented over the years.


Pretend that this didn't appear during every single Xbox event that prevented games from appearing on PlayStation. There are STILL games that are not on PlayStation due to exclusive deals.

Doublespeak Desperado.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Sony fans under time exclusive deals.

Xbox fans such as yourself simply ignore the fact that Microsoft has ALSO made deals with third-party developers.

Phil on Street Fighter - "When we have a 1st party franchise in a genre I'd rather invest in ours"


That game was Killer Instinct.

Capcom was on the rocks and needed development backing, something that has been well-documented over the years.


Pretend that this didn't appear during every single Xbox event that prevented games from appearing on PlayStation. There are STILL games that are not on PlayStation due to exclusive deals.

In totally unrelated news, High On Life, a timed money-hat Xbox exclusive that Phil paid for, launches the day after tomorrow Dec. 13.

 

[Shubh_C63]

That's part of doing business for multinational corporate giants. Sad but real.
Rich that MS of all people would say something like this.

 

[Gavon West]

Their main issues have been on the software side for like a decade. How is that sonys or anyone else's fault but their own? Who's stopping you from creating great games Microsoft?

Jesus Christ....and again, it just seems like GaF doesn't understand how business works. Let me break it down. I wish I had a box of crayons....

There has to be a buyer and a seller! You can't have one without the other. Every company under Xbox umbrella were selling. Microsoft had the money to buy. This includes ABK. Not one dev house went through a hostile takeover. Sony had just as much an opportunity to buy every dev house under Xbox now. They didn't. End of story!

If a huge tech company like Microsoft has the finances to buy a company looking to sell, seriously, what's the issue? It's literally a mutual agreement! Anything else, including salty Sony fanboys, is just noise. Y'all are a trip. Lol

Never change GaF.

 

[FritzJ92]

Not that I agree with what Phil is saying, but he does have a point depending on how you look at it.

If Sonys game plan is to take as much 3P content away from Xbox then Sony growth strategy is to shrink Xbox’s reach.

 

[quest]

Not that I agree with what Phil is saying, but he does have a point depending on how you look at it.

If Sonys game plan is to take as much 3P content away from Xbox then Sony growth strategy is to shrink Xbox’s reach.

Of course it was and many in here were celebrating at the time until the shoe was on the other foot and they will actually lose a major studio game.

Report: Sony Contacted All Major Third Parties for Exclusivity Deals, Offered More Money Than Microsoft

Report: Sony Contacted All Major Third Parties for Exclusivity Deals, Offered More Money Than Microsoft Kinda Funny’s Imran Khan said: There isn’t a major third party out there Sony failed to approach asking what kind of deals they could work out. Some had content, some had games, some had...

www.neogaf.com

 

[Gavon West]

Not that I agree with what Phil is saying, but he does have a point depending on how you look at it.

If Sonys game plan is to take as much 3P content away from Xbox then Sony growth strategy is to shrink Xbox’s reach.

That's been Sonys game plan since they got in this game. Now, they done pissed off a multi trillion dollar company who's actually got enough money to disrupt their whole game plan, and/or play the game 5x better than they can.

Let's not mention creating a game streaming service that they've literally burned billions to build and grow, while simultaneously chopping at the very pillars of the crowned market leaders dominance to the point, they got these boys outchea legit whining to the FTC to stop them from doing the EXACT same thing they've been doing to everyone else. Ol' Jimmy boy out here crying publicly - dignity and professionalism be damned LMAO!

Crazy! Shit is crazy!

 

[Umbasaborne]

Phil…for the love of god you own so many fucking studios, its not sony’s fault that microsoft is incapable of managing them correctly so that they can actually release games. What a god damn clown

For reference: fable begen development at playground in 2017. Its been four years with nothing to show except cg

 

[THE DUCK]

He's saying Sony is trying to grow thier market share (duh) by taking more of the video game market. Who else would they take it from other than ms or Nintendo? Why does it matter where it came from 10, 5 or 2 years ago? Of course they are. Are you saying Sony doesn't want ms's matket share?
The statement is completely valid and there's some twisted reaching going on here. And so what if ms is doing the same (shouldn't they be?) should he be advertising for Sony now?

 

[fart town usa]

Pretty dumb of him to say something like that.

 

[Heisenberg007]

That's been Sonys game plan since they got in this game. Now, they done pissed off a multi trillion dollar company who's actually got enough money to disrupt their whole game plan, and/or play the game 5x better than they can.

Let's not mention creating a game streaming service that they've literally burned billions to build and grow, while simultaneously chopping at the very pillars of the crowned market leaders dominance to the point,

Lol you might want to check out this thread again: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/npd-...november-and-ytd-gow-2-and-pokemon-3.1647455/

 

[NonPhixion]

Now, they done pissed off a multi trillion dollar company who's actually got enough money to disrupt their whole game plan, and/or play the game 5x better than they can.

Exactly! They haven't been trying these past 20 years, and next year is their year!

 

[bender]

That's been Sonys game plan since they got in this game.

A plan aped by Microsoft since the advent of the Xbox brand. Sony is just better at the execution. Not directed at anyone in particular but to pretend either aren't guilty of these marketing deals is incredibly naïve or disingenuous.

 

[Warablo]

I will say outbidding Sony would probably require so much markup because of market share.

 

[In Cold Blood]

Stop the BS. PUBG wasn't dead in the water. It was one of the biggest games and sold millions of copies within the first few months on Xbox. That's Triple A status.

Dead Rising 3, Ryse, and Sunset Overdrive are 3rd party game deals and they were never released on PlayStation.

The Medium was nearly a year. Cuphead was even longer. There are MORE time-exclusive deals MS has made with third-party developers.



The point flew over your head. Phil talked about the deal and said he would rather invest in theirs.

Ryse was a kinect game that Microsoft funded and published. It got changed to Xbox after they decided it wouldn't work on Kinect. That's why it didn't come out on PC for a year.
Sunset Overdrive IP is owned by Sony and they could bring it over to the Playstation any time they want. They don't want to. They obviously don't rate it.

You arnt seriously going to try and say that Xbox had as many good third party exclusive games as PS are you?
You have to try really hard not to notice the difference between Playstation and Xbox exclusives.
Xbox exclusives are generally indie games with a Gamepass agreement.
You arnt seriously trying to say that Microsoft's third party exclusives are the equal of Sony are you? I mean, we just had Jez Corden say that he understands that the Rumoured Metal Gear remake is also PS5 exclusive like Silent Hill.

As an xbox player I will admit no problems that Sony has done third party exclusives better than MS has.
Do you know how third party exclusives work?
The company has to compensate the studio or publisher for the sales they would miss out on by not putting it on the other console. The easy way to work out the difference is the amount of consoles sold. So last gen you nearly had a three to one advantage to PS over Xbox, which meant that it would cost MS nearly three times as much as Sony for the same game. Sony could basically get three exclusives for the same price it would cost MS to get one.

I don't ever have a go at Sony for doing it. It was their strategic advantage over MS. You have to exploit your advantages in buisness to succeed.
Sony should have done it, they did it, and they did the right thing.
MS is now taking advantage of their strength which is cash in the bank.
They should do it, they are doing it, and they are doing the right thing.
Up until recently you as a PS player were getting the overwhelming advantage. You were doing better than the Xbox guys were. Now it's flipped and the Xbox guys could well be getting an advantage.
Don't bitch now that things are going the other way.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
Even after ABK Playstation will be bigger than Xbox. You will still get COD. Outside of COD Activision might release a decent game every three years.
If you are into Diablo and Blizzard games you are already a PC guy.
MS buying ABK will make Sony more aggressive and buy up more studios. They will most Likely buy Square. I could see them buying the Sifu devs along with many more.
Bungie is working on a new third person action game which I doubt will be coming to Xbox, nor should it.

I think it's great that Sony and MS both are getting more exclusive games for each console. The more the better.
Infact I would rather see Sony and MS buying the studios outright instead of timed exclusives.

I think by MS getting AKB Sony are going to start bringing back their old Shooter IPs like Resistance and SOCOM.
Competition is awesome.

 

[Monad]

A plan aped by Microsoft since the advent of the Xbox brand. Sony is just better at the execution. Not directed at anyone in particular but to pretend either aren't guilty of these marketing deals is incredibly naïve or disingenuous.

It seems to me that Microsoft's execution is working fine this time, judging by the reaction of Sony.

 

[In Cold Blood]

I suppose Sony could have given their blessing and none of this would have happened. That's not very realistic though

Of course Sony would be the main detractor. Sony's part in this is that they are seemingly the biggest reason for these conspicuously large purchases. Ms spent a shit ton of money for games that were coming to them anyway, and even throw more money away cutting a
the ps releases. The deal already has to be reviewed thanks to being abnormally huge. They are reviewing for aspects that are anticompetitive and they found something and it wasn't hard.

The effort Sony has put into trying to stop this acquisition is massive. The hypocrisy they said is the horseshit part.
They didn't even sign the agreement with MS to have COD for 10 years.
Their big thing isn't about MS owning AKB, they know MS will keep COD multiplatform. They do not want COD to go into Gamepass. They are fighting to get a concession that MS will put it into PS+ as well. That's just bullshit.

 

[bender]

It seems to me that Microsoft's execution is working fine this time, judging by the reaction of Sony.

Go on..

 

[Danjin44]

One company say blah, blah, blah and other company says blah, blah, blah......

 

[DForce]

Ryse was a kinect game that Microsoft funded and published. It got changed to Xbox after they decided it wouldn't work on Kinect. That's why it didn't come out on PC for a year.

See how dumb your argument is? It's ok to help fund Ryse, but it's not ok to help fund Street Fighter.

Sunset Overdrive IP is owned by Sony and they could bring it over to the Playstation any time they want. They don't want to. They obviously don't rate it.

It was exclusive and it's still not on PlayStation

You arnt seriously going to try and say that Xbox had as many good third party exclusive games as PS are you?
You have to try really hard not to notice the difference between Playstation and Xbox exclusives.
Xbox exclusives are generally indie games with a Gamepass agreement.
You arnt seriously trying to say that Microsoft's third party exclusives are the equal of Sony are you? I mean, we just had Jez Corden say that he understands that the Rumoured Metal Gear remake is also PS5 exclusive like Silent Hill.

You're moving the goalpost. You tried to portray MS as innocent in acquiring time exclusive deals.

You tried to lie and say PUBG wasn't a huge game at the time when it was still one of the biggest games.


Dead Rising 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider, PUBG, Ryse aren't indies.

Ark series is not a small multiplayer game. It's currently 19th on most played Xbox Games list. 15th with 77k active players within the past 24 hours on steam. Ark II is time exclusive to Xbox.

Ark 2 Reportedly A Timed Xbox Exclusive and Will Come To PlayStation & Switch

Ark 2 is rumoured to appear at the next Xbox showcase!

www.dualshockers.com

As an xbox player I will admit no problems that Sony has done third party exclusives better than MS has.
Do you know how third party exclusives work?
The company has to compensate the studio or publisher for the sales they would miss out on by not putting it on the other console. The easy way to work out the difference is the amount of consoles sold. So last gen you nearly had a three to one advantage to PS over Xbox, which meant that it would cost MS nearly three times as much as Sony for the same game. Sony could basically get three exclusives for the same price it would cost MS to get one.

I know how exclusive deals work, and apparently, you don't because you missed a lot of the exclusive deals that were on Xbox.

Somehow they were able to get time-exclusive deals for major titles. They can also put games day one on Game Pass despite having to pay "nearly three times as much as sony."

I don't ever have a go at Sony for doing it. It was their strategic advantage over MS. You have to exploit your advantages in buisness to succeed.
Sony should have done it, they did it, and they did the right thing.
MS is now taking advantage of their strength which is cash in the bank.

Microsoft has been doing it since the first Xbox was released. Again, stop trying to make them appear innocent when they got much bigger time exclusive deals during the 360/PS3 gen.

They should do it, they are doing it, and they are doing the right thing.
Up until recently you as a PS player were getting the overwhelming advantage. You were doing better than the Xbox guys were. Now it's flipped and the Xbox guys could well be getting an advantage.

Don't bitch now that things are going the other way.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
Even after ABK Playstation will be bigger than Xbox. You will still get COD. Outside of COD Activision might release a decent game every three years.
If you are into Diablo and Blizzard games you are already a PC guy.
MS buying ABK will make Sony more aggressive and buy up more studios. They will most Likely buy Square. I could see them buying the Sifu devs along with many more.
Bungie is working on a new third person action game which I doubt will be coming to Xbox, nor should it.

I think it's great that Sony and MS both are getting more exclusive games for each console. The more the better.
Infact I would rather see Sony and MS buying the studios outright instead of timed exclusives.

I think by MS getting AKB Sony are going to start bringing back their old Shooter IPs like Resistance and SOCOM.
Competition is awesome.

Your entire argument is just stupid and you don't know what you're even talking about.

You guys want to pretend like Microsoft was playing nice for more than 19 years and then just suddenly started firing back.

They have been acquiring big exclusive third-party deals ever since they entered the market. Games like Mass Effect, Oblivion, and Bioshock were major titles and were time exclusive to the 360. Before that you had games like Jade Empire, Dead or Alive 3, Ninja Gaiden Black, Jet Set Radio Future, Shenmue II (mind you, Xbox entered a multi-game deal with Xbox) and more exclusive to Xbox.

Don't give me, "they needed funding" when you completely ignored Capcom needed funding for Street Fighter V.

No one is bitching. People call out your ridiculous posts all the time. It's time to take note as to why they're doing it because most of your arguments are just down right terrible.

 

[pasterpl]

This bullshit makes no sense.

Who entered the console game market for marketshare? Sony was there before Microsoft.

Who is fighting whom for market share?

That’s actually quite simple, moneyhatting games left and right, buying timed exclusive, including no gamepass clauses etc. then ms opened the warchest and crying started first with zenimax and then with AB, I can see ms getting more aggressive now with making deals, board obviously signed off on big investment in gaming so things are about to get even more interesting imo. Xbox is recapturing part of the market that they have lost with Xb one fiasco (still sold over 50 m consoles).

 

[Thebonehead]

I got a warning a few weeks ago on resetera for comparing shill spender and xbox fanboys to donald trump and that cult of personality.
And that's literally all is, a cult of personality. It's amazing how many ignorant, gullible and naive people will hitch their wagon to someone who just tells them what they want to hear, regardless of how full of shit they obviously are.

No you didn't. It's quite easy to check that you've been banned from there for years.

You did however say it here, amongst other obnoxious stuff.

How so ? Oh you're one of those people who think that giving people whst they deserve means someone must be having it rough.
Not surprising for a typical dog fucking rock stupid xbox fan who actually is dumb enough to think that the xbox has any exclusives actually worth playing.
You gonna cry into your xbox pillow while phil and major Nelson take turns giving it to up your xbox green tinted asshole tonight ?

Folks, I think we have another inbred dumbfuck xbox fan delusional from going too long without phil spencers dick in his mouth again.

Four years of xbox loving cunts here shitting up digital foundry and other technical threads with "xbox has better controller getting it there" "xbox live is better getting it there" "friends are on xbox getting it there"

Lmao, you'll be ok man. Its just uncle phil going ass to mouth on you. Honestly thought you'd be looking forward to it after so many times. ...

Xbox fans are just as stupid as Trump supporters so things have to be repeated.
Btw xbox fans constantly lose track of the competitions first party and exclusives library.
Many times more quality exclusive games than that pile of "games" that stink more than a post Chipotle explosive diarrhea outpouring that xbox fans call a first party.

Sucking phil spencers dick is lilianas mission in life.
Know who you're responding to.

 

[hyperbertha]

Uhmmm, is he retarded or what?

His fans are so its okay.

 

[In Cold Blood]

Of course it was and many in here were celebrating at the time until the shoe was on the other foot and they will actually lose a major studio game.

http://[URL]https://www.neogaf.com/...ls-offered-more-money-than-microsoft.1560435/

[/URL]

This is the hypocrisy that annoys me.
It comes from both Sony the fanboys.
Not long ago it was that Starfield won't be a loss because Bugthesda hasn't made a good game since Elder Scrolls.
Now that their overlord masters Sony are saying that Microsoft were bad for not putting Starfield on PS (and right after they had paid millions to keep 2 Zenimax games from going on Xbox for 12 months) then they all chirp up singing the same song.

 

[IFireflyl]

This is the hypocrisy that annoys me.
It comes from both Sony the fanboys.
Not long ago it was that Starfield won't be a loss because Bugthesda hasn't made a good game since Elder Scrolls.
Now that their overlord masters Sony are saying that Microsoft were bad for not putting Starfield on PS (and right after they had paid millions to keep 2 Zenimax games from going on Xbox for 12 months) then they all chirp up singing the same song.

Quit globalizing.

 

[Cheezewizz]

They could have easily outbid Sony but they took a different path. That path, so far, has failed to deliver.

Sure they could've outbid Sony, and you're correct that they chose a different path. That path however, has yet to play out, and a big part of the reason they took it was in order to get a steady stream of games for their platform.

Lol. I am an SX owner and I’ve grown tired of waiting. If more were critical of MS mediocrity, perhaps we’d see some productivity from the studios they own. I was always concerned that Phil and team were going to have difficulty integrating so many disparate operations into a cohesive unit. We are 7 years into the rapid acquisition strategy and those that aren’t satisfied with niche indie games are still waiting for change.

Save us all the "I'm an (insert console here) owner." Nobody is buying it and at this point it really just tells me you exclusively play PS.

MS is one of the most criticized companies, and Xbox isn't immune to that either. When the Xbox One had that terrible reveal, several of their announced features were changed or removed due to criticism. People were critical of the power, and Xbox released the One X was on the verge of being overkill at that time. Even last year when MS tried to increase the price of XBL Gold, their users were critical, and they immediately changed course. Of course nothing of the sort can be said about their competitors. And while I'm sure you're concerned (lol) about MS studios being able to work as a cohesive unit, and churn out third person singleplayer sequels, remakes, and remasters. The truth is that you shouldn't be so concerned. Because while you think it's been 7 years, in reality it's only been 4. So come back in 3 more years, and we'll discuss your "concern".

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

Most of the sony fans in this thread didn't bother to read the full quote. I dont know how anyone could deny the deals that prevented games from being on xbox an entire generation along with timed exclusive deals that also limit the appeal of xbox.

I still cant get street fighter 5 on xbox among other titles.

Get a PC instead, SFV is there since the start I believe. Your fault for buying the smaller/losing platform really. That is if you don't have/want a PS console

 

[In Cold Blood]

See how dumb your argument is? It's ok to help fund Ryse, but it's not ok to help fund Street Fighter.



It was exclusive and it's still not on PlayStation



You're moving the goalpost. You tried to portray MS as innocent in acquiring time exclusive deals.

You tried to lie and say PUBG wasn't a huge game at the time when it was still one of the biggest games.


Dead Rising 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider, PUBG, Ryse aren't indies.

Ark series is not a small multiplayer game. It's currently 19th on most played Xbox Games list. 15th with 77k active players within the past 24 hours on steam. Ark II is time exclusive to Xbox.

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I know how exclusive deals work, and apparently, you don't because you missed a lot of the exclusive deals that were on Xbox.

Somehow they were able to get time-exclusive deals for major titles. They can also put games day one on Game Pass despite having to pay "nearly three times as much as sony."



Microsoft has been doing it since the first Xbox was released. Again, stop trying to make them appear innocent when they got much bigger time exclusive deals during the 360/PS3 gen.





Your entire argument is just stupid and you don't know what you're even talking about.

You guys want to pretend like Microsoft was playing nice for more than 19 years and then just suddenly started firing back.

They have been acquiring big exclusive third-party deals ever since they entered the market. Games like Mass Effect, Oblivion, and Bioshock were major titles and were time exclusive to the 360. Before that you had games like Jade Empire, Dead or Alive 3, Ninja Gaiden Black, Jet Set Radio Future, Shenmue II (mind you, Xbox entered a multi-game deal with Xbox) and more exclusive to Xbox.

Don't give me, "they needed funding" when you completely ignored Capcom needed funding for Street Fighter V.

No one is bitching. People call out your ridiculous posts all the time. It's time to take note as to why they're doing it because most of your arguments are just down right terrible.

You don't comprehend well do you?
Tell me where I have ever said that Sony shouldn't be paying to get exclusive content? Infact you will see me saying they should be. They need to provide their customers with great exclusive content. They are no different than Netflix working to get new and exciting shows for their subscribers to watch that they can't get anywhere else.
I don't care if Sony money hats exclusives. I don't care if MS money hats exclusives.
I care about the pathetic, embarrassing hypocrisy from the market leader now complaining about exclusive games when that has been their whole strategy.
The fact that Sony and their rabid fanboys don't have the ability to realize just how retarded they are acting is on them.
So lay off the lean that I am calling them out for doing it and saying MS didn't do it. They all do it. It's the whole buisness model for consoles since their fucking inception.
The point is that Sony has gone harder than anyone to tie up quality third party content for PS owners (just like they should be) and that being the leading console seller gave them the advantage of getting to pay a dramatically lower price for the same game than MS would have been able to. It's one of the benefits of releasing a better console and selling more. For MS it's one of the downsides of releasing a shit console and not selling as many of them.
To sit there and say that Sony hasn't secured the better higher rated third party exclusives is pretty dumb.
However, don't then act like poor victims where MS take the Xbox brand seriously and invest in getting more first party content. That's the whole aim of the game.
The fact that Sony can't buy what Microsoft can is too bad. Microsoft doesn't have to only spend the same money Sony can spend. Just because Sony can afford to by ABK doesn't mean MS shouldn't.

As for the regulators, their job isn't to protect the market position of Sony. They arnt there to make sure that Sony stays number one. That's pretty fucking corrupt actually.