It’s the one with the biggest warchest. I mean you can’t be this dumb? Right?
Lmao. I remember you from the other thread. insults vs any well reasoned argument already.
You do you, buddy
It’s the one with the biggest warchest. I mean you can’t be this dumb? Right?
How so? My post had no insults and laid out multiple specific opinions. Why do you think they're wrong? Get specific on each one.
Just answer me this.Lmao. I remember you from the other thread. insults vs any well reasoned argument already.
You do you, buddy
Did he try to sell the viewers on how it was good to get hit by rocks?
What you even talking aboutI’m still here.
The fanboy in you is strong. It’s almost impressive.
Jim Ryan made the comments. That is what we are addressing.
Jim’s comments are hypocritical in the face of Sonys past practices… right? You are close my man. I’ll bet you can’t reply without mentioning Microsoft? Stop being in denial. I know you love Sony and would suck off Jim if it meant finding out what Naughty Dogs next game will be a day early. Try and set your bias aside.
I was a web developer during Microsoft's whole war to own browsing. There were many aspects to this you probably heard little about. From a dev perspective they constantly shit on any kind of open standard by either refusing to support it or doing the whole embrace and extend thing they tend to do often where they poison standards by putting in proprietary extensions that only their browsers support well. They also used their position as the OS holder almost constantly to make it difficult to choose alternatives. They even tried doing it again with Edge and Windows 10 by making you choose defaults for every file type.Whatever your opinions of MS, the fact is that MS does not have a history of buying itself into dominate positions. With the only dominate positions they hold coming organically from within (Office and Windows). Most of the litigation regarding Windows has been bogus anyway, IMO. The idea that MS shouldn't bundle their own browser with the OS was always beyond dumb, especially when Apple was also bundling a browser and other software. The argument that users were so hapless that they wanted another browser but couldn't be bothered to go download it themselves was lunacy. MS never blocked users from installing third-party browsers.
The only legitimate complaint I've seen levied at them was when they were using their windows licensing to control what OEMs could factory install on systems, that did push the line a bit.
I’m sure Jimbo’s losing sleep over what GAF thinks about him, the man’s doing his job lol. Idk why some of you have an emotional attachment to this.
It was this OEM liscensing scheme that Jean Louis-Gasse’ blamed for BeOS not getting a foothold.Whatever your opinions of MS, the fact is that MS does not have a history of buying itself into dominate positions. With the only dominate positions they hold coming organically from within (Office and Windows). Most of the litigation regarding Windows has been bogus anyway, IMO. The idea that MS shouldn't bundle their own browser with the OS was always beyond dumb, especially when Apple was also bundling a browser and other software. The argument that users were so hapless that they wanted another browser but couldn't be bothered to go download it themselves was lunacy. MS never blocked users from installing third-party browsers.
The only legitimate complaint I've seen levied at them was when they were using their windows licensing to control what OEMs could factory install on systems, that did push the line a bit.
The lawsuit should be proof enough.Your proof is a lawsuit that was ended nearly a quarter of a century ago?
The only party that’s not getting involved in acquisitions is Nintendo.
Both Sony and MS have stated that they aren’t stopping. Why are we supposed to be afraid of just one of them?
what? They did it with windows, Skype, office and others. They failed at phones, browsers, music players and others.Whatever your opinions of MS, the fact is that MS does not have a history of buying itself into dominate positions.
People that are making fun of Jimbo are the usual suspects because he said the truth and they know this deal is not going as smoothly as they hoped it.I see plenty making fun of Jim and it's kinda weird. Sure, he makes a lot of questionable decisions and stays in the background.
But the guy speaks plainly, does not bs anyone and says as it is.
Phil on the other hand is soo see-through, I am really surprised so many gullible people far for his nice words. He rarely comes up as honest to me.
And then there re people saying PS exclusives are anti consumer... are you fucking mad?! These are often Sony made games. They have no need to publish them elsewhere.
I am sure they help with FF development too or pay really good money.
And people wanting GP on sone are out of their mind. It's like wishing for worse for yourself
Sony's Bungie Releases Halo 7 exclusively to ps5. MS loses the rights.What shit exclusive deals have you so butthurt where you need to dress in your green armor and cry?
Is not anti-consumer, is just inadequate.I don't see how this deal is anti consumer at all. The game is still going to be on the play station system for a long time. If anything, it benefits the consumers because we get the game on more devices and for a cheaper price. Not to mention Activision needs help right now after all the controversy
Explain yourself please.Is not anti-consumer, is just inadequate.
The one with the fortitude to get Activision/Blizzard and have the funds to back it up?Jimbo showing who has the big balls in this game.
Microsoft spent billions on acquisitions like Nokia trying to jumpstart their renewed mobile efforts after abandoning Windows CE. It just failed.
They made a huge investment into trying to compete with the iPod with the Zune. It just failed.
Trying and failing does not erase the magnitude of investment Microsoft has thrown into these industries trying to grab position. When they did get a dominant position they tended to abuse it regularly. Other players like Apple and Google among others have also abused their position so this is not a uniquely Microsoft behavior.
What news have you been reading, record breaking MW2, Warzone 2 a huge success, OW2 doing well, Candy crushing in more than ever and Diablo 4 I'm the pipe.Activision needs help right now after all the controversy and law suits. Seems like a win-win situation.
I don't see how this deal is anti consumer at all.
ATVI is and will fine without MSFT hindering them.The one with the fortitude to get Activision/Blizzard and have the funds to back it up?
The magnitude of investment is the issue here. Not investment itself.Why are you pitching investments like the Nokia and the Zune play as some sort of devious strategy?
How is trying to get market share a bad thing?
Not even the most rosy Microsoft employee would have told you they were hoping to gain a dominant position vs Apple in the iPod vs Zune battle, or in their attempts to make Windows Phone the 3rd mobile platform.
Competition without investment is not feasible.
You fail to grasp this don't you? Sony aren't dominant. What scale are you using? Revenue? Profit? Consoles sold?But the other is coming off a generation where they outsold their main competitors by over 2:1, plus started the gen with a bigger first party.
On the ‘dominance’ and ‘monopoly’ scale, one is certainly much higher than the other.
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Sony didn’t by Capcom/Square to get those exclusive to their platform.
You fail to grasp this don't you? Sony aren't dominant. What scale are you using? Revenue? Profit? Consoles sold?
Also Sony don't have 100 billion sitting in banks or are worth 1.5+trillion.
And your point? I still can't play them on my Xbox, Einstein.
The only one driving up costs currently is Sony.It has nothing to do with PS fans at all, you're so narrow minded.
if you want one brand to own everything driving up costs is that an ideal world for you? It's literally a reality in Canada where half the nations services shut down because one company had issues.
Stop being so naive and childish thinking stuff like this is good for you.
The only one driving up costs currently is Sony.
The only one driving up costs currently is Sony.
The only one driving up costs currently is Sony.
Be careful, Bogeyman Sony might force you to get a TV they are so powerful. Phil is shakingThat the company with by far the bigger marketshare, larger gaming revenue, bigger brand recognition and first party IP + a well established penchant for securing exclusivity is higher on the ‘dominant’ scale?
Yes. That’s my argument. I think it compares favorably to “well, this company once drove Netscape out of business a quarter century ago”.
This was Sony’s analysis of the market in May 2021 AFTER the Bethesda deal closed.
Despite the Bethesda purchase, Sony essentially predicts an increase in revenue from 45% from the PS4 era to 50%. With COD remaining multiplatform, it would help if you could break down how you expect Microsoft to suddenly dominate the industry. Clearly, not even Jim Ryan believes this.
One good year doesn't mean good long term growth.What news have you been reading, record breaking MW2, Warzone 2 a huge success, OW2 doing well, Candy crushing in more than ever and Diablo 4 I'm the pipe.
Stock would be in rise without this noose of a deal hanging around ATVI.
Yet Microsoft just did a price drop on xbox series s. If MS was more competitive in EU, Sony would've never raise the price of the PS5.Inflation has driven up costs, not Sony. Phil Spencer has said he can't guarantee MS prices won't increase either.
WTF -Driving up costs to consumers. Sony charges more for their games and has raised the price on their consoles.Why would Sony want costs to be higher?
If they were lower they can increase their profit margin. Which is what they did with the hardware redesigns. They certainly don't want costs to increase.
same response as I gave cornholio.Inflation has driven up costs, not Sony. Phil Spencer has said he can't guarantee MS prices won't increase either.
WTF -Driving up costs to consumers. Sony charges more for their games and has raised the price on their consoles.
Thank you for this fortune cookie.One good year doesn't mean good long term growth.
Why would Sony want costs to be higher?
If they were lower they can increase their profit margin. Which is what they did with the hardware redesigns. They certainly don't want costs to increase.