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New graphics demo from Nvidia - Nvidia Racer RTX

Haggard

Haggard

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jaysius said:
Meh, this isn't that big of a leap, this is what stagnation looks like.

Pushing the RTX agenda to try and sell cards when they know it's a demanding tech that most people can't afford and achieve 60fps at 4k or even 1440p.
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The only realistic option to simulate how real light behaves known to the CGI world is an "agenda" and advanced everyday physics simulation impossible with current hardware is "stagnation".......okay.

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You should probably look up what a tech-demo is supposed to be.
 
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Orta

Orta

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That is what I want from PC hardware, stuff that just comprehensively wipes the floor with the best that consoles can do.

Beautiful demo.
 
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Redneckerz

Redneckerz

Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Haggard said:
The only realistic option to simulate how real light behaves known to the CGI world is an "agenda" and advanced everyday physics simulation impossible with current hardware is "stagnation".......okay.

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You should probably look up what a tech-demo is supposed to be.
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Its probably something Jay will also find disappointing because that's pretty much his agenda every time i see him post. Dude's not impressed with anything but reflections, but fails to render his own real life one.
 
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BackBackPunch

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It would look a whole lot better if the outside scenes weren't ruined with the gross color grading. I don't understand why things that are supposed to be "realistic" have to be color graded to hell and back by the creative teams. If I want "cinematic" I'll watch a movie. Let's keep it real here folks.
 
Tomi

Tomi

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Why we only have those tech demos, where the fu** are games?

We dont care about tech demos, bring us games, this is stupid
 
Comandr

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That was fun. You know what games really need to look realistic? Dust. It doesn’t look like anyone actually lives in any of these places. You can have a ton of objects and details and whatever and everything is absolutely pristine. No dirt. No pet hair. No random scuffs where your fucking kid keeps opening the door with his shoe even though you keep telling him not to and he’s not supposed to have shoes on in the house ANYWAY.

Or anything like that. I want to see random dings and chips and damage. 🫠
 
01011001

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jaysius said:
Meh, this isn't that big of a leap, this is what stagnation looks like.
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dude, the cars are all physics simulations with physically simulate wheels and suspension.


and all the lighting is raytraced.



jaysius said:
Pushing the RTX agenda to try and sell cards when they know it's a demanding tech that most people can't afford and achieve 60fps at 4k or even 1440p.
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uhm, I can reach 1440p60 pretty well on my measly little RTX3060ti with RT, especially when using DLSS
 
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jaysius

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Redneckerz said:
Its probably something Jay will also find disappointing because that's pretty much his agenda every time i see him post. Dude's not impressed with anything but reflections, but fails to render his own real life one.
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Not at all about being impressed, RTX has been a focus for GPU marketing for the past I don't know how many years and it's meh, it's not the next best thing.

There's complete stagnation here because all they can do is tell you how great this thing will do RTX.

Nvidia is controller the market, if they don't create another tech that their cards can't do they can keep you focused on trying your damnedest to run games at high settings with RTX and make people want that so badly they burn $1.5k.

Lets see something new let ray tracing just be, and move on.

It's not a good carrot.

At least in early 2000's it was any Anti-ailising then it went to better AA that was a great carrot, less jaggies, sign me up! Before that it was making 3D look good, that was an incredible jump! RTX is nothing in comparison to that.

This is stagnation.
 
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Redneckerz

Redneckerz

Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
jaysius said:
Not at all about being impressed, RTX has been a focus for GPU marketing for the past I don't know how many years and it's meh, it's not the next best thing.

There's complete stagnation here because all they can do is tell you how great this thing will do RTX.

Lets see something new let ray tracing just be, and move on.

It's not a good carrot.

At least in early 2000's it was any Anti-ailising then it went to better AA that was a great carrot, less jaggies, sign me up! Before that it was making 3D look good, that was an incredible jump! RTX is nothing in comparison to that.

This is stagnation.
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Raytraced audio, for instance?

Or do you want light working around the Metropolis Light Transport model?

Better physics/animation?

I agree Nvidia is tacking this as PR fluff and putting raytracing in a bad light (heh) but Quake II RTX remains ever the impressive.
 
SlimySnake

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Tomi said:
Why we only have those tech demos, where the fu** are games?

We dont care about tech demos, bring us games, this is stupid
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Nvidia dont make games.

Your anger is misplaced. Go after Activision, Sony, Ubisoft, Microsoft and EA who have been jerking you around for the last two years.
 
Knightime_X

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jaysius said:
Meh, this isn't that big of a leap, this is what stagnation looks like.

Pushing the RTX agenda to try and sell cards when they know it's a demanding tech that most people can't afford and achieve 60fps at 4k or even 1440p.
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When games look closer to photo realistic I can see where it stops becoming "impressive" in a sense that you see life like images on a daily basis.

What you're really craving is an art style of your choice with life like elements.
 
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jaysius

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Redneckerz said:
Raytraced audio, for instance?

Or do you want light working around the Metropolis Light Transport model?

Better physics/animation?

I agree Nvidia is tacking this as PR fluff and putting raytracing in a bad light (heh) but Quake II RTX remains ever the impressive.
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Any of those, all of those, they more than likely have the next thing ready to go, but they don't need to release it because the carrot they've decided on is still RTX.
 
Raven77

Raven77

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How dare they make a game/concept that doesn't look like every other "AAA" game released?

I ask you, where are the guns?

Where are the cool characters to eventually put on tshirts and backpacks?

If there's no dope ass dialogue how on Earth will I connect emotionally, spiritually, and through cosplayers - physically, to this game/concept?

Cancel it.
 
01011001

01011001

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Raven77 said:
How dare they make a game/concept that doesn't look like every other "AAA" game released?

I ask you, where are the guns?

Where are the cool characters to eventually put on tshirts and backpacks?

If there's no dope ass dialogue how on Earth will I connect emotionally, spiritually, and through cosplayers - physically, to this game/concept?

Cancel it.
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I known right? you can't even sit in a bush with a bow and arrow... useless
 
Haggard

Haggard

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jaysius said:
Not at all about being impressed, RTX has been a focus for GPU marketing for the past I don't know how many years and it's meh, it's not the next best thing.

There's complete stagnation here because all they can do is tell you how great this thing will do RTX.

Nvidia is controller the market, if they don't create another tech that their cards can't do they can keep you focused on trying your damnedest to run games at high settings with RTX and make people want that so badly they burn $1.5k.

Lets see something new let ray tracing just be, and move on.

It's not a good carrot.

At least in early 2000's it was any Anti-ailising then it went to better AA that was a great carrot, less jaggies, sign me up! Before that it was making 3D look good, that was an incredible jump! RTX is nothing in comparison to that.

This is stagnation.
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You could have said that you have no idea how CGI works with less words....
No question that Nvidia introduced it too early to finance further development, but there is no "moving on" from RT. It's basically the holy grail in CGI, has been for decades, and will become more and more important in real time graphics the more hardware power is available. .
 
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Wandering Leopard

Wandering Leopard

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jaysius said:
Not at all about being impressed, RTX has been a focus for GPU marketing for the past I don't know how many years and it's meh, it's not the next best thing.

There's complete stagnation here because all they can do is tell you how great this thing will do RTX.

Nvidia is controller the market, if they don't create another tech that their cards can't do they can keep you focused on trying your damnedest to run games at high settings with RTX and make people want that so badly they burn $1.5k.

Lets see something new let ray tracing just be, and move on.

It's not a good carrot.

At least in early 2000's it was any Anti-ailising then it went to better AA that was a great carrot, less jaggies, sign me up! Before that it was making 3D look good, that was an incredible jump! RTX is nothing in comparison to that.

This is stagnation.
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Not sure I agree, isn't the reason it's a big deal - particular for devs - is because it can shorten development times (they can spend less time baking).

The push for better and better graphics is fine but it's almost meaningless if it takes devs longer to make things and/or increases costs - going forward, GPU manufacturers should be prioritising things that help reduce dev times.
 
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Feel Like I'm On 42

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Wandering Leopard said:
Not sure I agree, isn't the reason it's a big deal - particular for devs - is because it can shorten development times (they can spend less time baking).

The push for better and better graphics is fine but it's almost meaningless if it takes devs longer to make things and/or increases costs - going forward, GPU manufacturers should be prioritising things that help reduce dev times.
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You mean like RT?
 
RoadHazard

RoadHazard

Gold Member
jaysius said:
Not at all about being impressed, RTX has been a focus for GPU marketing for the past I don't know how many years and it's meh, it's not the next best thing.

There's complete stagnation here because all they can do is tell you how great this thing will do RTX.

Nvidia is controller the market, if they don't create another tech that their cards can't do they can keep you focused on trying your damnedest to run games at high settings with RTX and make people want that so badly they burn $1.5k.

Lets see something new let ray tracing just be, and move on.

It's not a good carrot.

At least in early 2000's it was any Anti-ailising then it went to better AA that was a great carrot, less jaggies, sign me up! Before that it was making 3D look good, that was an incredible jump! RTX is nothing in comparison to that.

This is stagnation.
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Full scene ray tracing is the future of real-time graphics, there's no question about it. When all lights, shadows and reflections are done fully through RT we will finally start seeing games looking properly photorealistic, because then we'll be approaching an actual simulation (albeit still highly simplified) of how light works in the real world. There's just no other direction real-time graphics can head. We won't be going back to the fakery that's currently required once full RT is doable.
 
The_Mike

The_Mike

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Stuart360 said:
It kind of makes other games look like a joke right?.
Shame games never come close to these kind of tech demo's. Maybe we will be there in another couple of gens lol.
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When devs focus on PC hardware instead of console hardware.

Which means it's pretty far away.
 
sachos

sachos

Member
Imagine Re-Volt Remake with this graphics!! Seriously though, really impresive if it was trully real time captured. The future of games is a fully RT world, if you want fully dynamic good looking worlds then you need that. Now will the next gen consoles be powerful enough to do it? Ehh i don't know, they will need to get really good AI reconstruction imo.
 
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