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PS5 price to increase in select markets

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asdasdasdbb

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Eddie-Griffin said:
PS5 Digital should in theory be cheaper to produce than the PS5, but the lack of units being made will likely make that a bigger problem for Sony. I expect Sony to continue limiting how many are made and maybe in another year or two drop the Digital model entirely.
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If anything, given that 80% of sales are digital now, it would go the other way.

IMO Sony should have done this sooner and claim they would use the extra dough to increase the PS5 output by using plants outside of China.
 
Salty Popsicle

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Benniewise de Clown said:
Sorry, but I'm not getting into that discussion on neogaf in the gaming section.

Fact is, Western economies are collapsing due to the sanctions.
These price hikes are a result of that.
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LOL, you can't just mention the sanctions off-hand without delving into the reasons as to why the sanctions happened in the first place. That's like complaining that a dog mauled your leg without mentioning that you jumped into a fenced enclosure that says "Warning, this dog is vicious".
 
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Banjo64

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nominedomine said:
Imagine how arrogant they'll become if the extra costly PS5 does well with God War Ragnarok releasing in a few months.

I don't think Pentinent is going to do it, we are going to need something else to put Jimbo in his place.

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I’m now backing Pentiment to outsell Fraud of War Cashnarök.


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Make it happen daddy Phil. For the good of the Realm.
 
Dolomite

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Loxus said:
Your right, Sony should reduce the size of the RAM, SSD and heatsink to keep the PS5 cheap.
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Feel free to quote me if/when MS follows suit and marks up the Series consoles. I'll gladly eat crow and admit to being an asshat if I'm wrong. A global economy effects everyone, but the way a corporation adjust thier operational cost, debt management and product pricing is up to them. There's a number of measures a company can take to hedge losses or retain earnings. Digging deeper into the customer's pockets should be the last one imo
 
Eddie-Griffin

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Riky said:
Is this the first time a company has raised a console price after launch?
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Atari, Sega, Mattel, Amstrad, SNK, NEC, and Commodore (It's a computer but let's be honest it was used as a game console) all have done it. Now you can add Sony to the list.

Tarnpanzer said:
Price at release was too low anyway. Sony lost a lot of money due to this. The should have released it @600/650$€. Even with this price tag the consoles would have been sold out everywhere.
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The PS3 PTSD would return so i doubt it. $600 is going into Mini-PC territory, pre-built.

DonJorginho said:
Jim Ryan, the first ever gaming boss to increase the price of a console in the middle of a worldwide recession.

(I don't count Quest as a console but heyho it looks even worse to be copying Facebook)
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Not the console, but Nintendo increased game prices in 2009.

Godot25 said:
That's the funny part. That they were profitable with PS5
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They were never profitable for any PS5.
 
lachesis

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I don't think it's "Select" markets price increase....? It's Global price increase and select markets get no price increase. (Like only U.S.)

I really feel for Japanese people. They've been stagnating for far too long for 30 years with no wage increase and gdp growth - it must hit them harder than ever.
 
clarky

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Dr_Salt said:
Come on bro you can't be seriously defending this shit.
And I thought ree was the place filled with the blue fanboys.
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Not defending anything, this news means zero to me and and 99% of users here.

Although your original i'll give you that, i usually get called out for "sucking on MS' teet" or some shit this ones new.
 
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Eddie-Griffin

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reinking said:
Makes you wonder if Sony even sees Microsoft as competition.
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The fact they won't raise the price in the US already confirms that they do.

Benniewise de Clown said:
Sorry, but I'm not getting into that discussion on neogaf in the gaming section.

Fact is, Western economies are collapsing due to the sanctions.
These price hikes are a result of that.


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Btw, don't forget about the tensions between China and the US over Taiwan.
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Just a small reply here since it's off topic, but the western economies were collapsing before the war even started. Many news reports about inevitable recession (or worse) way before, even the major banks chimed in.

anothertech said:
This is what happens when stupid motherfuckers buy hardware at scalper prices all over the world for two straight years.

Good job assholes
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You're attributing way too many sales of the PS5 to scalpers to believe that's the reason why they are raising the price.
 
coffinbirth

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Kupfer said:
Not an easy task and they already did cut the costs with the new revision of the PS5 which has a less massiv heatsink with less use of copper.


I wouldn't have thought that the situation is still so tense after one and a half years and that the PS5 is almost never available in retail stores. It's surprising, but understandable, that the console is now even more expensive.

I'm all the happier to be there since day 1 with 2 consoles. I hope no defect creeps in.



Loss maker? Not at all. You are bound to the store with the digital edition and the prices are impressive. The games are sometimes 50% more expensive than the disc in retail stores. After a handful of purchased games in the store, Sony has already made plus with the sale of the digital edition to you.
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If Sony are losing money on PS5 hardware, it stands to reason they are losing MORE with DE just by virtue of the fact that no way are they paying $100 for UHD drives at scale.
 
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Godot25

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John Wick said:
Are you living in a bubble? I think your just arguing in bad faith. Prices are increasing across the board for everything. From milk to fuel. Components are going up. Transport has skyrocketed. My local Pizza shops have increased their Parmo prices from £8.50 on everage to about £11 in a matter of months.
A fan I bought over a year ago for £40 is now selling at £60. People are in for some shocks come October/November time here in the UK.
I have more a problem with Sony charging for upgrades and $70 for TLOU.
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Yes. But fuel/milk etc. are sold directly to consumer without additional money being made from consumer. That's why it is no-brainer to increase price of your product when you feel that you need to spend more money to make your stuff.

But consoles? Please...Sony is taking 30% cut from every transaction on their platform. They are charging cross-play fees. That's why Microsoft and Sony were always willing to sell their consoles at a loss. Because they knew that they will make that money by selling first/third-party games and other content. So what changed suddenly? PS5 was selling at a profit from August 2021. So Sony basically jacked up price of console so they keep that profitability of a hardware instead of taking a hit but still make huge amount of money on software.

So yeah. Not remotely comparable
 
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SLB1904 said:
Meanwhile the suppose competition



And people wonder why Sony can get away with it.
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I don't see what that dumb tweet showing Greenberg's shenanigans has to do with the conversation.
If people want to buy the technically inferior console at a higher price and with its overpriced subscription service, it's not Microsoft fault.
In my opinion, MS has done everything right this generation other than the delay to their games (that's up to the dev studio heads you could argue).
It's time for consumers to use their heads and stop blaming others for their own entertainment product decisions. If you get both like I did, I get it. If you can only get one and it's Sony's product, I don't get the logic at this point. But to each their own.
 
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pasterpl

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NickFire said:
No one wants to see price increases. But come on dude. People aren't going to suddenly declare the company that provides most of their entertainment is the devil just because they fell in line with almost every single company in the word that reacted to inflation. And if we're talking about normal customer behavior, how many of the people up in arms are even customers? Let's be real here.
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So I guess we should stop pointing out Apple pricing practices etc. it is all okay as they provide “great” hardware. It is all okay. Yes we are dealing with inflation, energy price spikes (just to note energy companies, oil companies are reporting record profits, so it is not like they were on verge of losing money). It is more like them checking where is the line, first £70 games, now price increase where most of competents are cheaper than they were 2 years ago. Remastering remakes and selling it again and again. Shitty practices.
 
fart town usa

fart town usa

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And people laughed because I paid $920 for a PS5.

ENJOY YOUR MANDATORY PRICE INCREASE, PLEBS.
Ha Ha Smile GIF by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon


In all seriousness though, this increase isn't surprising. If the world can ride this out and a PS5 price increase is the worst that happens to some people, I'd consider that a good thing. Have a bit of perspective before getting outraged over this.
 
Eddie-Griffin

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Godot25 said:
What?
Sony literally said in august 2021 that they are profitable with base PS5 model.
https://www.onmsft.com/news/sony-says-its-500-playstation-5-is-now-profitable

Of course, Digital Edition was sold with loss.
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And then right after they said they weren't. So it seems like between launch, your link, and after they were only profitable on the base PS5 for a few months.

Banjo64 said:
Not exactly a positive sign since they’re all dead.
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Atari just put a console out last year tho.
 
Jigsaah

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Even more curious is why is the US Market left out of the price increase. One would argue the US consumers would have the ability to pay a little more, at least compared to the other markets. Does this mean the systems were underpriced elsewhere? Certainly doesn't seem that way in the UK.

Maybe it's because Sony knows this is a polarizing move and the biggest blowback would come from the largest market...the US...so they avoided a price increase here.

Of course, I keep thinking of Sony like it's a Japanese company. It sure used to be. Pretty sure they are headquartered in the States now though. Hmmm...strange.
 
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DeepEnigma

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adamsapple said:
Bobby Kotich ushered in the $60 price point. Sony wanted it to be even higher than $70.

Why do you do this ?
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No, MS announced the price increase for the new gen.

In fact, I remember the conference clear as day since I was all in on Xbox back then. They announced $60 for third party (to cover the $10 licensing fees) and "swore" their first party would never be higher than $50... then Halo 3 happened and they raised their first party to $60 with that game going forward. Which a lot of us said would happen back then.

Why do you do this?
 
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Jigsaah

Jigsaah

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DeepEnigma said:
No, MS announced the price increase for the new gen.

In fact, I remember the conference clear as day since I was all in on Xbox back then. They announced $60 for third party (to cover the $10 licensing fees) and "swore" their first party would never be higher than $50... then Halo 3 happened and they raised their first party to $60 with that game going forward. Which a lot of us said would happen back then.

Why do you do this?
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When did this happen? I remember $60 being the price point as far back as N64 days. And then N64 had games that were sometimes $80. Like that Mortal Kombat: Sub Zero game. Are you saying at some point MSRP was $50?
 
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DeepEnigma

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Jigsaah said:
When did this happen? I remember $60 being the price point as far back as N64 days. And then N64 had games that were sometimes $80. Like that Mortal Kombat: Sub Zero game. Are you saying at point MSRP was $50?
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Disc based consoles were $40 to $50 for games. That was one of Sony's selling point to the PSX/PS2. (You pay more for carts).

When the 360 was launching, it was announced that 3rd party games would be $60 (to cover the $10 licensing) and their first party would remain $50. Which it did the first handful of games, until Halo 3 happened and it was $60 from there on out.
 
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adamsapple

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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
DeepEnigma said:
No, MS announced the price increase for the new gen.

In fact, I remember the conference clear as day since I was all in on Xbox back then. They announced $60 for third party (to cover the $10 licensing fees) and "swore" their first party would never be higher than $50... then Halo 3 happened and they raised their first party to $60 with that game going forward. Which a lot of us said would happen back then.

Why do you do this?
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So the first game they increased for first party came 2+ years later, when the entire industry had shifted to $60.

While the article I posted is talking about Sony wanting to increase price even higher than $70. Comparing them is false equivalency.

Why do you do this?
 
DeepEnigma

DeepEnigma

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adamsapple said:
So the first game they increased for first party came 2+ years later, when the entire industry had shifted to $60.

While the article I posted is talking about Sony wanting to increase price even higher than $70. Comparing them is false equivalency.

Why do you do this?
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"It's only okay when we do it." - You

Kind of like MS and India a month ago as well. I know why you do this.
 
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