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A huge purchase is imminent within 1 month from now
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Ghost of Caelid
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My money is on steam as well, less expensive than a take two or EA but a great long term investment for the price. Putting gamepass on steam also gives them a billon quadrillion new users. I think they have enough content for the generations. Buying a few smaller studios fills out gaps without having to buy a whole publisher. Steam is my final answer. “Presses buzzer”
MrFunSocks
Banned
Mr Moose
I assumed that when I talked about generations people would understand that I was talking about across the entire generation, but maybe I need to be more specific for people like you?Games are already not selling on the PS5, with the best selling game on it only managing to hit 67 000 copies. That's absolutely terrible. Launch year console sales aren't indicative of the whole generation. The PS5 will sell less than the PS4 over the generation.
The PS2 did 23 million in Japan.
The PS3 did 10 million in Japan.
The PS4 did 8 million in Japan.
Do you see a trend? Combine that downward trend with the abysmal software sales of the PS5 and it should paint you a pretty decent picture of how the generation is going to go.
From what I can see, the PS4 outsold the PS3 in its first year too (PS3 did 800k in 2007, 400k in Nov-Dec 2006, so take most of november and all of Dec out of 2007 and youd likely be looking at around a million in the first 12 months). Didn't end up well for the PS4.
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You forgot subscription service doesn’t matter. Oh wait it does.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Part right. Part wrong. This data is accurate from Nov 2020.
Consoles are growing faster than PC gaming segments slower than mobile. You can research actual stats as much as you like with factually correct information over at NewZoo
I'll save you the trouble - here's the free 2021 report version with some facts.
At first glance you may see console numbers as going down but in fact it's increasing year on year with market revenue e.g. console vs console. The overall console market share is what is shrinking marginally due to the mobile market dominating but console growth in overall revenue is still on the up and up.
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Bryank75
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Games are already not selling on the PS5, with the best selling game on it only managing to hit 67 000 copies. That's absolutely terrible. Launch year console sales aren't indicative of the whole generation. The PS5 will sell less than the PS4 over the generation.
The PS2 did 23+ million in Japan.
The PS3 did 10 million in Japan.
The PS4 did 8 million in Japan.
Do you see a trend? Combine that downward trend with the abysmal software sales of the PS5 and it should paint you a pretty decent picture of how the generation is going to go.
From what I can see, the PS4 outsold the PS3 in its first year too, or at absolute worst was essentially even. Didn't end up well for the PS4.
PS4 has sold 9.4 million and has hardly any units for sale anymore, with no super-slim model.
They could have done a 200 dollar model or reduced the price and hit probably 11-12 million if they really wanted to show growth.
It's part of my frustration with Sony and PS right now...they simply are not pushing the right things. They are distracted with things on the periphery of the industry that are fads.
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MrFunSocks
Banned
I think that poster was talking about in Japan, which is what I was talking about and they replied to me.Part right. Part wrong. This data is accurate from Nov 2020.
Consoles are growing faster than PC gaming segments slower than mobile. You can research actual stats as much as you like with factually correct information over at NewZoo
I'll save you the trouble - here's the free 2021 report version with some facts.
At first glance you may see console numbers as going down but in fact it's increasing year on year with market revenue e.g. console vs console. The overall console market share is what is shrinking marginally due to the mobile market dominating but console growth in overall revenue is still on the up and up.
You’ll survive. Spend time in the kojima conspiracy thread if you think this is bad.How many times do we have to go through this?
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Oh, my bad. Thanks for the correction mate and too true on the Switch part.
Darlingcognito
Member
The whole "eyes peeping/ huge eyes" shit from insiders is so fuckin tiring.
alstrike
Member
They belong to Embracer Group already
Jerm411
Member
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
This **** is like catnip to us isn't it?
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I'd believe it when I see it. I swear, sometimes it looks like these rumors pop up by the usual suspects on Twitter with cryptic and pretentious tweets whenever MS/Xbox needs some positive momentum.
^ None of these acquisition rumors ever materialized into anything.
Can it happen? Absolutely, sure, anything can happen. MS has to money to do it.
Will it happen? Another ~$10 billion studio/publisher purchase? No, I don't think so.
- Xbox is buying Sega
- Xbox is buying Crytek
- Xbox is buying Take Two
- Xbox is buying Warner Bros
- Xbox is buying Square Enix
- Xbox is buying Discord
- Xbox has bought three studios: Netherealm, Avalanche, Crytek. "23 is now 26
^ None of these acquisition rumors ever materialized into anything.
Can it happen? Absolutely, sure, anything can happen. MS has to money to do it.
Will it happen? Another ~$10 billion studio/publisher purchase? No, I don't think so.
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lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
call me crazy but i personally think Sony may gave us another surprise, i mean we dont even know they would acquire EVO, Nixxes or Firesprite lmao
Bryank75
Banned
Housemarque is the only thing that is proven to be good that they bought so far..... Nixxes is an insult and Firesprite is unproven but could be good.
With all the extra income from crossgen and PC and mobile bullshit and the upgrade fees and increased game prices.... they should be buying something damned good. I feel like we are being squeezed and getting fuck all really in return.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
True, Nixxes is a PC port studio.
Hopefully there are more better acquisition surprise from them .
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I think you're underestimating Firesprite. They can be PlayStation's wild card this generation.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
that’s what I don’t get
why would rabid fanboys like Alex from DF and
SenjutsuSage
that hang out in an XboxEra discord get some inside scoop on a corporate acquisition?acquisitions seldom leak, they just are rumored about and are announced suddenly. People could get in much bigger trouble for leaking an acquisition than leaking a game
Gameplaylover
Member
Nevermind.
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lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
Bryank75
Banned
Being an insider must be so easy. Just post a fewhere and there and you are done. Always talk about stuff you heard, but never go into details. The classic tidux route.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
HUGE NEWS!! NEOGAF INSIDER TEASING SOMETHING BIG IS HAPPENING!!
SaucyJack
Member
SaucyJack
Member
To be fair it’s not just a Microsoft thing though.
it’s just fan fiction in quiet times.
JerryinSoCal
Member
The issue with Japan that some people who post on forums don't seem to understand is if you want Sony to keep trying to be "Japanese" and focus more on that market that means less appealing games for a lot of western gamers and less money coming in for PlayStation to put towards other games. Japan is a shrinking market and has been for a while so I don't get the "Japan is so important" stuff that keeps popping up from time to time. You need to do some things there yes but Japanese devs need western audiences to stay in business while western devs don't really need Japan. You still have the big games like Final Fantasy etc and Sony will keep working with other Japanese devs for some exclusives games like NIOH but that can't be their focus or anything close to it.
SaucyJack
Member
that’s what I don’t get
why would rabid fanboys like Alex from DF and
acquisitions seldom leak, they just are rumored about and are announced suddenly. People could get in much bigger trouble for leaking an acquisition than leaking a game
Exactly.
Especially true when we’re talking about public companies due to a problematic little thing called insider trading.
ZywyPL
Banned
This. Stop giving those false Twitter "insiders" attention already.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Exactly, 'member all those "switch pro is coming" insiders?Teasing about 4K dlss etc....
They're all full of shit now, except cboat .....We miss you man.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Very true. But after Bethesda's acquisition, any acquisition rumor is just automatically associated with Microsoft. And honestly, it damages MS/Xbox as well, because how are they going to meet all these ridiculous fan-fiction expectations.
The best thing to do is just not to pay attention to these attention-seeking "insiders" and "influencers." Do not give them any attention or traction if they say "someone is buying someone." If they are confident in their source and not lying, they should say "X company is buying X company".
Let them put themselves on the line, earn our attention, and either get the praise for getting it right or hear the backlash when they get it wrong.
SaucyJack
Member
Yeah, I do agree. But I can also remember plenty Sony is buying Take 2, Warner B, Capcom, Konami, Squeenix rumours too.
However, for me there’s a logic that dictates likely M&A activity and that says that Sony will be more active than MS over the short to medium term.
Microsoft has gone from 8 to 23 studios in three years. There are definite management challenges in scaling up like that and MS do not have the most productive set of studios today. Their short term challenge is to make that set of studios work, manage them effectively, get them producing regular content for Gamepass. Adding more and more studios is going to amplify that problem so carrying on at the same pace would be illogical.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
Rumor: Microsoft Might Be Preparing Another Bethesda-Level Acquisition
A new rumor indicates that Microsoft is preparing a big Bethesda-level acquisition that will have 'internet lawyers debating monopoly laws.'
gamerant.com
it has begun.....
that I'm sure u trust is inside the geometry engine
anthony2690
Banned
I feel like I should just wait for Brad Sam's to say something lol.
Anyway, is this skullzi guy credible at all? Or just another twitter insider thing?
Anyway, is this skullzi guy credible at all? Or just another twitter insider thing?
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
"Gaming News Content and Investigations over at http://YouTube.com/Skullzi - Streamer - Business Inquiries: workwithskullzi@gmail.com (United States) - r/SkullziField"
His twitter profile.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Jim Ryan quitting?
kuncol02
Banned
Maybe MS is buying Embracer? I really can't think of any other company which is in MS reach (~$10bln market cap) and which sale would "make internet lawyers talk about monopoly laws". Maybe Valve but I don't think that Gabe would want to sell it..
Gameplaylover
Member
Hopefully it's nothing too big. Something like EA or Take 2 could really be a problem for the competitor.
PropellerEar
Member
You have money like MSFT.
Pocket change!
SaucyJack
Member
EA has a market cap of $40 billion, not happening.
PropellerEar
Member
You are delusional.
Games are already not selling on the PS5, with the best selling game on it only managing to hit 67 000 copies. That's absolutely terrible. Launch year console sales aren't indicative of the whole generation. The PS5 will sell less than the PS4 over the generation.
The PS2 did 23 million in Japan.
The PS3 did 10 million in Japan.
The PS4 did 8 million in Japan.
Do you see a trend? Combine that downward trend with the abysmal software sales of the PS5 and it should paint you a pretty decent picture of how the generation is going to go.
From what I can see, the PS4 outsold the PS3 in its first year too (PS3 did 800k in 2007, 400k in Nov-Dec 2006, so take most of november and all of Dec out of 2007 and youd likely be looking at around a million in the first 12 months). Didn't end up well for the PS4.
I'll make this a house analogy.
There is this house with a lil boy let's call him
MrFunSocks
-san (in Japan) he has a Switch and PS5. But he doesn't even know what an Xbox is.He is more likely to buy games on Switch or PS5. Because he still doesn't know what an Xbox is.
..and this house is not on fire, but during summer it can be moderately warm inside.
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PropellerEar
Member
Old Halo reviewer kits(bribes) are making a return.
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